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Redsquall
03-03-2016, 05:13 PM
Am I right in thinking that there are other systems that may work well and actually make the horn beep or the lights light up when the Fob is pressed?

FABombjoy
03-03-2016, 06:04 PM
I put in a generic aftermarket system.

What's nice is that you can remove the lock module and graft most of you connections directly to it comfortably from a workbench. Cuts down on the "awkwardly trying to set a half-dozen scotch-locks upside-down in the footwell".

Added a relay for the horn and one additional connection to headlight switch to blink the running lights. If you used main beams you could pick that up in the relay compartment as well.

Patrick C
03-03-2016, 08:41 PM
I used the Viper 211HV.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7fU2zwWXw&feature=youtu.be

Available here:
http://www.amazon.com/Viper-211HV-1-Way-Keyless-System/dp/B001ANXNIW

Morpheus
03-03-2016, 09:05 PM
Is there a reason why you wouldn't want to support a DeLorean vendor? I mean, all of the engineering and thought has been put into the configuration of the Wings-A-Loft system (I'm not familiar with the DMCH system so I can't speak for it) so it is essentially a plug and play installation in a DeLorean. Are you looking for functionality that isn't offered in these solutions? Is it price? I'm just wondering.

Michael
03-03-2016, 10:27 PM
Is there a reason why you wouldn't want to support a DeLorean vendor? I mean, all of the engineering and thought has been put into the configuration of the Wings-A-Loft system (I'm not familiar with the DMCH system so I can't speak for it) so it is essentially a plug and play installation in a DeLorean. Are you looking for functionality that isn't offered in these solutions? Is it price? I'm just wondering.

LOL, the Wings-A-Loft is a very cool setup and I love it, but it is most definately NOT Plug and Play. You need to set aside at least 5 hours to install it. It is very straight forward and easy, but involved.

You drill holes, add relays, add wiring (lots of wiring), install actuators. Again, not plug and play.

Morpheus
03-04-2016, 09:04 AM
LOL, the Wings-A-Loft is a very cool setup and I love it, but it is most definately NOT Plug and Play. You need to set aside at least 5 hours to install it. It is very straight forward and easy, but involved.

You drill holes, add relays, add wiring (lots of wiring), install actuators. Again, not plug and play.

Ok, noted. I should have said "comes with easy to understand instructions and requires a moderate amount of mechanical ability". But then again, any other aftermarket system requires the same thing, only you have to figure out the wiring and configuration on your own. This would add a few hours to the job.

It didn't take me 5 hours to install, though. More like 3 or so.

Elvis
03-04-2016, 09:50 AM
I sell keyless entry systems every once an a while. I buy them and modify them so that
it is very simple for the owners to install them. The wiring is already cut to length and no external
relays required, not even the diodes for the blinkers. So it looks very clean.

I only work with blinkers, I hate the horns. But they can be added if this is really desired.

Usually people send me their power lock ECU, I udate it (important!), add a connector for the remote,
test it on my car and send it back.

If you just want lock/unlock - then it is plug and play.


If you want you can add flashing blinkers by just connecting two wires.
One spare channel is left for a trunk opener or to open ONE door. The 3(4)
World Tour Deloreans use them, too.

PM me if interested. I live in Germany, but I already shipped some systems to the US and it wasn't
too expensive as it was just a small box.

By the way - so far this worked with every power lock ECU I found out there as they all work with
a switched Ground signal.

DMCVegas
03-04-2016, 12:58 PM
I have a VPA Door Popper system, and I wouldn't recommend it at all.

This system for example uses heavy solenoids, meaning that you've now got to go back and increase tension on your torsion bars by at least one click because of the added weight. So if you ever remove it, you're going to have to go back and re-tension those torsion bars again... And you're also going to have to run wires as well for this kit too. There *are* optional kicker solenoids that you can install down towards the rocker panels, but it isn't necessary. At least not in the summer time, and as long as your gas struts are fresh.

My kit was installed by someone else, and when I tried to call for assistance to obtain a wiring schematic, VPA was of no help whatsoever. So I just had to leave the module permanently unplugged.

Stick with the wings-a-loft setup.

FABombjoy
03-04-2016, 01:12 PM
I think there is some brand confusion here. "Wings-a-loft" describes a wide range of products not limited to just the automatic door opening system.

If I were in the market for the ability to remotely open a door, I'd almost certainly pick something as well vetted as the Wings-a-loft remote door opening system.

If you just want keyless entry, the basic system appears to be $109, which if you're a DIY type is maybe more than you want to spend.

I like Toby's products but deciphering the offerings on this page gives me a headache: http://www.delorean-parts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=DPNW&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=9401

DMCVegas
03-04-2016, 02:16 PM
I like Toby's products but deciphering the offerings on this page gives me a headache: http://www.delorean-parts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=DPNW&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=9401

Those are the stand-alone products as they're sold a la carte. Try this page instead with descriptions of the different kits.

http://www.delorean-parts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=DPNW&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=9400

FPBBrandon
03-04-2016, 02:21 PM
I noticed the wings aloft elite set is out of stock on their page, is it something that they still focus on?

FABombjoy
03-04-2016, 02:21 PM
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There are simply too many words, that's all

DMCVegas
03-04-2016, 02:46 PM
There are simply too many words, that's all

http://i.imgur.com/Pr87Xu3.png?2

mluder
03-04-2016, 05:42 PM
You can always call Toby... He's nearly always the one who answers the phone at DMCNW.

Cheers
Steve

PJ Grady Inc.
03-04-2016, 06:05 PM
"Bobzilla" and I had two fully working prototypes in 1999 that worked fantastic but life got in Bob's way. I've been slowly nudging Bob out out "retirement" for years and hope to be able to make an announcement soon. I guarantee if it happens it will be awesome as he doesn't do anything halfway. He just never tells me what he's doing until it's done!
Rob

DrJeff
03-04-2016, 09:04 PM
But I did need to build it first...

Had to dig through some very old posts to find this.

http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?5390-Fitting-a-10-Remote-Key-Control-to-the-Delorean&p=76790#post76790

Posting includes a PDF with detailed instructions.

Jeff

Timebender
03-06-2016, 02:08 PM
I used the Viper 211HV.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7fU2zwWXw&feature=youtu.be

Available here:
http://www.amazon.com/Viper-211HV-1-Way-Keyless-System/dp/B001ANXNIW

Nice! Where did you post the wiring schematics?

Patrick C
03-06-2016, 02:57 PM
Nice! Where did you post the wiring schematics?

http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?8042-Remote-Door-Lock-Unlock-Wiring-Help-Needed&p=118854&viewfull=1#post118854