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mrsandman
12-30-2016, 12:00 PM
This one has been in the family since 1985, unfortunately, its been sitting in a garage since ~1989. It was driven into the garage one fall, just wasn't pulled back out in the spring. Each year it sat, the more work was required to get it out again. It has become my project to get her back on the road again.

Current condition:
The body is in great shape, the interior is in great shape as well. No cracks or rips in the seats or dash. The engine however is ceased.

The first order of business is to get the engine to turn. While the engine is soaking, I'll take a look at the fuel (tank, pump, lines, injectors, etc). I'm hoping I don't have the pull the engine right away. I'm sure it will be inevitable though.

Just a couple of pics for now. I've got her in storage for the winter as I don't have a shop. Its a bit cold here in the north to work on her now.

I'm following http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?14574-VIN-2706-s-20-year-nap as it sounds like a similar situation.


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More pics and updates after the winter thaw!

sdg3205
12-30-2016, 12:34 PM
Love to hear about more cars coming out of moth balls. More pics indeed.

powerline84
12-30-2016, 01:47 PM
Very similar story to mine lol. My motor is siezed currently working a replacement . I have been allowing the cylinders to soak with a 50/50 mix of atf/diesel for 2 weeks. Either way I am gonna pull my block. Congrats !

powerline84
01-05-2017, 12:06 PM
Hows progress coming for yah ?

mrsandman
01-05-2017, 10:49 PM
She's in cold storage right now. I don't have a shop and when the ambient temperature is about zero, it's no fun working on cars. If the weather warms up a bit, I'll go out and grab some pics. I'll take a look at a few things like the fuse box and see what I might need in the future. That way I can start to acquire parts I will need.

Thanks for checking in!

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mrsandman
04-15-2017, 08:00 PM
Sorry it's been a while, but I finally pulled her out of storage today. I think the frosty season is behind us here in the northern climate.
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We got her loaded and put into the garage. Not much work was done today. We were able to pull out the spark plugs and poured some ATF / acetone mixture into the cylinders. I'll let that soak for a while to see if we can break the motor free.
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I did a quick inspection of the fuse block and things look good there. I'll do a more thorough look when I get some time. I'll still want to look into updating the fan system though.

Next step I think is to look at the fuel system. I'm sure I'll need to do some work there.
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mrsandman
04-18-2017, 09:40 PM
We keep adding ATF and acetone to the cylinders without any movement. I'll keep adding and hopefully I'll get something to move one of these days.

I took a quick look at the fuse block today and it is in great shape! I'll take the win while can.

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It doesn't look like there was anything bypassed nor does it appear anything got melted.

mrsandman
04-20-2017, 09:50 PM
Good news today, I managed to get the motor to budge slightly! I ended up moving the motor slightly and poured more ATF into the cylinders. I didn't try to push my luck and rotate it completely. I will move it a little bit each day and eventually get her all the way around.

Needless to say, it was another successful day here!

I've got lots more with to do before I can fire it up!

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powerline84
04-20-2017, 09:58 PM
Nice! I can tell you that once I broke down my Siezed block the bottom end actually turned fine, what was locked up and extremely rusty was the timing chains and the cams.

mrsandman
04-20-2017, 10:01 PM
Nice! I can tell you that once I broke down my Siezed block the bottom end actually turned fine, what was locked up and extremely rusty was the timing chains and the cams.
That's good to know. I'll add to the list to take a look at those items before I try to fire it up.

Thanks!

Lwanmtr
04-30-2017, 04:31 AM
Good luck, hope you get it running soon

mrsandman
05-21-2017, 02:26 PM
I managed to get some time with it yesterday. I took the plunge and mucked out the gas tank. There wasn't as much crap in there as I thought. I managed to get all of the crap out of the tank without getting much on myself.

The fuel pump boot was not quite covering the hole anymore. Thankfully, it doesn't look like much moisture got into the tank itself. Pulling out the fuel pump was kind of a challenge. I made the mistake of pulling it out before disconnecting the lines. The rubber lining was not much like rubber anymore, it was quite nasty. I'll have to decide if I want to just replace the fuel lines or see if I can get these clean. Based on how the outer rubber coating on the fuel line just flaked off, I might have to just replace them. That will be a project for another day!

I'll have to upload some pics of the components I pulled out later, for now, I've got an action shot of me arm deep into the tank.
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Lwanmtr
05-21-2017, 03:30 PM
I managed to get some time with it yesterday. I took the plunge and mucked out the gas tank. There wasn't as much crap in there as I thought. I managed to get all of the crap out of the tank without getting much on myself.

I've got an action shot of me arm deep into the tank.

Hmm... Delorean Action figures.... curled up under the dash, arms inside the fuel tank, holding a light trying to find that nut in the valley of death, scratching head (wondering wtf the po was thinking by putting a fish tank filter in there).....hehe

Nice that you didnt have a ton of gunk in there.

Citizen
05-21-2017, 04:08 PM
I'll have to upload some pics of the components I pulled out later, for now, I've got an action shot of me arm deep into the tank.
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Looking at the pictures you posted, I got to thinking; Can you imagine how miserable it would have been working on DeLorean fuel problems if the engineers had not seen fit to put that access panel right there?

Sheesh!

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mrsandman
08-06-2017, 12:09 AM
Where has the summer gone! Life keeps getting in the way and I can't seem to get time to work on my car!

Today I finally got some time to do some work. The fuel tank is now cleaned out and looking good. Today I wanted to flush the fuel lines. I followed the recommendation from a post in the how to section and connected the supply and return lines in the engine compartment. After a few trips to the store to get the right hoses connected, a new utility fuel pump, fresh gas, etc, I was finally able to start flushing the lines.

Unfortunately, it appears there is something plugging the line. I couldn't get anything through. I tried to remove the fuel filter to see if that was the issue, but that is currently not disconnecting from the hard fuel line. I've got penetrating oil working on it now.

I also found out today the oil drain plug is missing. Must have gotten misplaced in my dad's garage somewhere. That would explain why the ATF I've dumped into the cylinders has now managed to leak out on to the garage floor! [Add a drain plug to the order list.]

Needless to say, today wasn't all that productive, but I got a chance to spend some time in the garage!

Next step is to order the list of supplies for the fuel system, including all fuel lines for the engine compartment. At 35 years old, it's good to get them replaced. So I guess I'll flush the hard fuel lines one section at a time.

mrsandman
08-13-2017, 11:10 PM
Had a few hours to work on it today. Managed to get the fuel filter out without wrecking the hard line. It took some hits with a hammer to get the line out of the fitting. Didn't have enough time to try to clean them out save that for another day.

Pulled off the wheels for the first time. Plenty of rust on the brake components. I'll have to invest some time to go through the brakes before I'll consider it road worthy. The hard brake lines look good. The rubber lines will need replacement for sure. I was actually surprised I was able to move the parking brake mechanism on the rears. I didn't try the cables, I'm sure those are rusted up and will need replacement.

That's all for today. I'll have to get some pics to share.

Lwanmtr
08-14-2017, 02:30 AM
Sounds like youre getting in there and finding all the niggly things to fix.

I'll be having all my mechanical and brakes inspected up at DMCNW, since they'll know more about what will need replaced.

mrsandman
08-19-2017, 01:34 PM
Sounds like youre getting in there and finding all the niggly things to fix.

I'll be having all my mechanical and brakes inspected up at DMCNW, since they'll know more about what will need replaced.
As far as breaks are concerned it should be easy to figure out what needs to be replaced: just about everything!

Yep, finding all kinds of fun things to R&R. Today I tried to pump through without removing the accumulator. That didn't happen. I'll need to get that out of there. From everything I've read, it sounds pretty high on the swear meter. I'll need some extra patience for that....

Lwanmtr
08-19-2017, 03:52 PM
Good luck with that...I've only read vageu descriptions of where its at...sounds like a chore...hehe.

mrsandman
09-24-2017, 11:25 AM
So I managed to get the fuel hard lines all cleaned out, and spent some time getting the fuel accumulator, fuel pump, and fuel filter put back in.

Wow! I thought getting the accumulator in was going to be hard, I really didn't think the filter was going to be that bad. Boy was I wrong. I figured the filter would be easy because its mostly accessible. I think I put that thing in so many times and got it wrong just as many! I think it took me about 90 minutes just to get it installed. For an item that needs replacement, I wouldn't have thought it to be so difficult!

Installing the accumulator, that is just difficult because there isn't good access. I can understand that one. I don't remember how many hours it took, but it makes sense. The fuel return line I never got the flared end to disconnect. I managed to get the nut removed, but not the brass flare. I ended up connecting the new hose to brass and tightened it down. I figure if it wants to stay there that bad, it can continue to seal! So new hoses and a new accumulator all back in place. Glad to have that done (hopefully everything is tight enough to be sealed! No fuel in the tank yet, so I'll have to test another day.

Next is to pull off the distributor and replace all the fuel lines in the engine compartment. Test out the distributor...

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mrsandman
09-24-2017, 11:42 AM
The wheels are off and the brakes are removed. I pulled apart the calipers and they all seem to be in decent shape. The pistons are in good shape and no pitting or anything else that I can see. All the rust appears to be on the outside. The brake fluid that leaked out was not exactly clean, but it wasn't anywhere near black either. I'll have to clean them off and rebuild them. I want to paint them right away as long as I have them out. I've got a guy here in town that is willing to sand blast them for me. So it looks like some rebuild kits are in my future.

Anybody have recommendations on the paint to use on the brakes? I know it will require high temperature paint. I'm still debating on the color to paint them. I don't think the car needs to be flashy so maybe just a nice black to keep it from rusting.

The rotors, though covered in rust, don't seem to be worn badly. I'll knock off the rust to see how much metal is left. I can't make much of an assessment until I take care of the rust.

The last piece is the brake lines. The hard lines look ok. I'm just worried about the rubber lines after this many years. The coupler that goes through the frame looks like it leaked, so I'll have to take a look at that. Not sure if its the coupler or the lines. Hard to tell with the coolant line running right there.

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Lwanmtr
09-24-2017, 04:24 PM
Really digging in there...

I agree access to the fuel filter is somewhat lacking..they shoulda put it in a more accesible place like either near the distributor or the pump, IMO.

Those rotors may just have surface rust (hopefully) as mine did/do...when they get used most of that will come off..but looking at a couple of your pics they have a bit more than mine..so may need replacing.

I've heard its a good idea to replace the rubber lines if they are the originals, simply because that old, they probably wont last too much longer.

mrsandman
05-28-2018, 11:29 AM
I've gotten back to her now that the snow is gone. Not too long ago we had snow here, today its going to be 95 degrees. We seemed to have gone from winter straight to summer here in Wisconsin.

I've spend a few nights out there and took off the distributor, air metering system, and intake. The good news is the metering system looks good. Doesn't look like there are any issues there. Just need to clean it up and make it look good.

Now comes the bad news, the distributor is about as stuck as it can be. I've put some atf/acetone on the piston to try to get it to move and I can't get any movement on it. The only thing I haven't tried is air pressure through the WUR port. I've been kind of afraid to try it. At this point, I don't think I have much to lose.

Another thing is that I found lots of walnut shells under the intake. A rodent of some sort made a home under the intake, so I pulled that off. So far the valley of death looks good. I still need to do some cleaning on it because of all the crap the rodents left behind. As long as I'm in there I might as well replace the hoses and water pump.

So this brings up my question: with all the issues I'm likely to find with this fuel system, should I just bite the bullet at this point and switch to EFI? I've looked through the forums and it seems like its best to start with a well running motor. If I'm going to invest into getting the Bosch system working, I'm going to use it. I figure by the time I take care the fuel lines, distributor, lambda, and all of these other components, I'm going to be well into a better, more modern fuel system.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the K-jet system is well documented enough that it won't be a problem keeping it running. Any thoughts?

So my next steps are to do inspections inside the heads and lower unit to see if those need to come apart as well. I'm hoping they will look good, but I won't know until I put a camera in there to take a look.

Picture of the valley, after some cleaning.
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Pic of the distributor
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mrsandman
06-10-2018, 06:58 PM
I got to spend some time over the past couple of weekends. The water pump is out and now I've got full access to the valley. After clearing out all of the rodent crap and whatever else was in there, I inspected the valley. The valley appears to be in good shape! I'm quite happy I don't have any issues there. It was kind of a pain in the butt to get all they way down there to remove all of the accumulated stuff. Once I got to the bottom, I could see it is solid metal at the bottom and there aren't any leaks.

After doing some research, it appears the EFI change over is a little bit involved. I'll just stick with the KJet system for now. It sounds like its best to start with a running motor, and it is a winter project.

I pulled out the warm up regulator to give that a cleaning, not much dirt in there. I ended up just cleaning it up and putting it back together. There was a couple of bits of junk in the fuel screen. See pics.

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I now have an order for all the rubber hoses, water pump, rebuild kits, etc. Hopefully all of it will go on as easily as it is coming off. There is plenty of documentation on the vacuum hose routing so hopefully I don't run into problems there!

I also tried to get the fuel distributor apart. I will admit, I didn't try to hard for fear to wrecking it. Since the part normally has a pretty hefty core charge, I wanted to make sure I've got one to send back, preferably one that is still rebuildable! Since I can't get the plunger to move and I can't get it to separate, I'll let someone with more experience rebuild it. I'm sure there is plenty of dried up fuel in there. It might take some extra work to get it open and operational again.

That's about it for now!

Lwanmtr
06-10-2018, 10:41 PM
Sounds like some decent progress :)

powerline84
06-11-2018, 04:41 AM
Do yourself a favor and use silicone hoses and good clamps in the valley, pressure test while apart and then reinstall top end ....or they Will loosen up and you'll be taking the top end off again lol.

mrsandman
06-11-2018, 07:27 PM
That's a great idea. I didn't think about doing a pressure test right away. Thanks.

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Mark D
06-12-2018, 10:20 AM
Wow, I don't know how I missed this thread for the past year and a half. I'm also in WI so it's cool to learn about another restoration in progress close by. I'm in the Stevens Point area so if you are ever passing through give me a shout. I saw in your previous post that you're in Mt. Horeb. Great work on the car so far!

mrsandman
06-14-2018, 07:46 PM
Wow, I don't know how I missed this thread for the past year and a half. I'm also in WI so it's cool to learn about another restoration in progress close by. I'm in the Stevens Point area so if you are ever passing through give me a shout. I saw in your previous post that you're in Mt. Horeb. Great work on the car so far!

Yep, I'm down in Horeb, a bit of a drive from the Point.

I'm just trying to get her back on the road again at this point. I think I've got quite a bit of work to do just to get it drive-able again. I've got a bunch of parts coming in soon.

If you are in the neighborhood feel free to stop by! I can always use another hand to turn a wrench! ;)

mrsandman
06-27-2018, 11:26 PM
Last weekend I did some hose replacing. I started to pull out all of the hard lines on the drivers side of the car. I've got them out at the moment. I'm going to clean them up to make sure the new hoses will have a good surface to seal. I'm doing one side at a time so I make sure the replacement hoses are correct ones. There are many more of the short hoses than I thought there would be!

I've got the new water pump in my hands, so I started to pull off the backing and thermostat housing from the old one. It took a bit of time and lots of patience to get all of the 35+ year old gasket off the backing. That needed to soak in parts cleaner for a while! It's nice and clean now, no need to give the gasket any reason to leak!

Taking out the hard coolant lines also gave me a chance to look at the brake coupler where it goes through the frame. Either the line or the coupler leaked. The coupler and the line were pretty well rusted. I had to cut the coupler out. Took a while, but nothing a hacksaw couldn't cure.

The brake fluid then leaked down the frame. Which then ate away at the coating. I was actually surprised the frame wasn't rusted more. I just took the wire brush on it and took it down to bare metal. I've got some paint to put on it to seal it back up again.

Unfortunately, I didn't take any interesting pics. I'll have to try to get some this weekend.

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