sunbeam headlights.

[tomcatf14g]

Hey I've seen several photos of Ds with the Sunbeam headlights. Are they something u can actually get or just Photoshop or something. I like the look and would like to add it to mine if its possible. Anyone know where I can find them

[DMC5180]

Never heard of sunbeam headlights. Are you referring to a type or brand? Deloreans came from the factory with Sylvania headlights. Unless Sylvania had a product line called sunbeam.

[Exolis]

http://www.livesteam.com/sunbeam/Sunbeam_Headlight.html Perhaps this is referring to Fog lamps?

[DrJeff]

Has anyone ever fitted these angel halo headlights listed on eBay? I'm interested in the extent of the installation challenges with respect to the headlight buckets...

Item: 77~95 DMC Delorean ANGEL HALO Low + High HEADLIGHTS +WIRE

URL: http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=251235490742

[refugeefromcalif]

Has anyone ever fitted these angel halo headlights listed on eBay? I'm interested in the extent of the installation challenges with respect to the headlight buckets...

Item: 77~95 DMC Delorean ANGEL HALO Low + High HEADLIGHTS +WIRE

URL: http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=251235490742

I'm curios about these also, and the associated fitting of them to my car.
I don't care as much about the Angel Eye effect as much as wanting the xenon Bright White headlight effect. (Like my old Acura had).

Anybody wanting to/have tried these out?

George

[Ryan King]

Someone on the forum did install them once. I had heard they were cheap plastic and not of good quality.

[Shep]

Someone on the forum did install them once. I had heard they were cheap plastic and not of good quality.Are there any angel eyes for DeLoreans here in the States that are good quality? I'm interested in doing this mod to add "cool" white daytime running lights. I know DMC Europe sells some, but those are "warm" white, and all the way over in Europe.

[refugeefromcalif]

Someone on the forum did install them once. I had heard they were cheap plastic and not of good quality.


Are there any angel eyes for DeLoreans here in the States that are good quality? I'm interested in doing this mod to add "cool" white daytime running lights. I know DMC Europe sells some, but those are "warm" white, and all the way over in Europe.

For better or Worse, I ordered a set of these... :ohcrap:

I'll let you know what I end up with.

George

[john 05141]

I have a set of those, and kept the original ones just in case. But they are only the inner ones I changed not all 4
They are indeed all plastic, and very light. It worried me a bit when I had them in my hands, but once installed they do look very good.
The angel eyes are very nice.

I doubt it thye will still look as good in 3 or 4 years. But here is a picture.
Jan

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[Patrick C]

For better or Worse, I ordered a set of these... :ohcrap:

I'll let you know what I end up with.

George

I'm curious to hear if these are an easy install, or if a relay must be used due to higher current draw. Keep us posted!

[eagle-co94]

Jan, can you take pics in daylight with them on and pics at night with them on and off so we can see a real life example of how they look? I'm interested in these as well. How long have you had them on your car and how many km's have you driven since the install?

[refugeefromcalif]

I'm curious to hear if these are an easy install, or if a relay must be used due to higher current draw. Keep us posted!

Will Do.
I got mine in on Friday. I've been busy working on a clutch problem so, It'll be a few more days before I try any kind of installation.

They came Well packed and with the wiring extras but, No instructions for installation or mods that might be needed as far as relays.
They are as has been mentioned, All plastic except for the lenses which are glass.
The thing that I'm curious abut is, these are All 4 the same housings, with 4 of the same bulbs?
Aren't Low beams and Hi beams different?
I've attached a pic of of bulbs.

George

[DMCMW Dave]

Will Do.

The thing that I'm curious abut is, these are All 4 the same housings, with 4 of the same bulbs?
Aren't Low beams and Hi beams different?
I've attached a pic of of bulbs.

George

In most cases high and low beam bulbs are different. These cheapies use the same single filament H4 bulb for low and high.

Unlike the originals, when you turn on the high beams the outer lamps will be dark.

[DMC5180]

In most cases high and low beam bulbs are different. These cheapies use the same single filament H4 bulb for low and high.

Unlike the originals, when you turn on the high beams the outer lamps will be dark.

Normal H4 Bulbs have DUAL filaments for HI/LO assuming there are 3 spades present.

In order to make them work correctly on the Delorean, you have to swap the Ground (black wire) with the wire on the opposite side of the 3 wire Connector. This only needs to be done on the Outer HI/LO position bulbs. The inner (HI only) bulbs need to have the 2 wire connector installed so the wire positions so that they match wire color positions of the HI/LO bulbs. This leaves the center spade terminal (LO) disconnected. There is no wire for it so it doesn't matter. If this minor wire modification is not done you will get wonky power back feeding in the lights. they will be slow to react and cause dim glowing of the inner HI bulbs when switched to LO beam.

Not sure if the bulbs being talked about have the Angel eyes feature. That is a separate circuit to power the HALO effect. Similar to DRL's.

[DMC5180]

Will Do.

They came Well packed and with the wiring extras but, No instructions for installation or mods that might be needed as far as relays.

The thing that I'm curious abut is, these are All 4 the same housings, with 4 of the same bulbs?
Aren't Low beams and Hi beams different?
I've attached a pic of of bulbs.

George

George,

Can you post a photo of the full kit and up close shots of the Housings (front view)

[Dangermouse]

I'm not sure whose car this is, except that it is in Europe

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17189&d=1363015698

Welmoed's: (maybe same car as above)

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6002&d=1318578390


from this thread

http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?937-H4-conversion-questions&highlight=angel


And, Dear Mod, please correct the spelling of the title of this thread as a) it will help future searches, and b) it bugs me.

(Surprised it got past Chris's sensors lol)

[eagle-co94]

Interesting license plate. Not sure where it's from, but it must be some small principality or something because it's definitely not a standard European plate. Those light definitely look nice though.

[DMC5180]

Interesting. Not my cup of Tea though.

[refugeefromcalif]

George,

Can you post a photo of the full kit and up close shots of the Housings (front view)

Dennis, this isn't a full kit pic but, it covers all the parts included.
Sorry for the Bad pics. I took them with my cell phone on some cardboard I found in the garage...


Back of the housing. It's actually sliver. The two holes are for the Angel Eye bulbs.

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17192&d=1363042739


Front Glass lens.

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17193&d=1363042828


The wiring parts. The upper 2 bulbs are for the Angel Eyes. (One pair included with each housing).
Below are 1 of each, (2 of each in the kit), of the adapter harness's to plug into the stock harness.

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17194&d=1363042903

Hope this helps.

EDIT: I just realized I forgot a pic of the rubber gasket that seals off the big bulb hole in the back of the lens.

George

[Shep]

George, are those angel eye bulbs incandescents or LED's? I'm curious which one comes in the kit.


I'm not sure whose car this is, except that it is in Europe

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17189&d=1363015698I don't think that's Welmoed's car considering the color difference (Welmoed's are warm white), but hoochie mama I'd love a set of those headlights! :wrenchin:

Not terribly keen on the foglights though -- maybe it's required in their country?

[DMC5180]

OK, cool

The angle Eye bulbs will need to be connected to the Park lights circuit. Do you have the DMCH replacement headlight switch?

The connector adapter harnesses "should" make the system plug-N-play. You don't need to use them IF you do the location swaps to the factory connectors.

There is a good thread about H4 conversions here: http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?937-H4-conversion-questions&highlight=bulb+conversion

[Dangermouse]

Not terribly keen on the foglights though -- maybe it's required in their country?

They are not fog lights. They are sidelights or parking lights and they have to be separate from the amber indicator lamps. I think it is a DOT requirement

Fog lights would be located under the bumper.

[Shep]

The angle Eye bulbs will need to be connected to the Park lights circuit.Not necessarily, although it's certainly convenient in terms of wiring. I personally am going to hook mine up to one of those push-button dummy switch replacements DMCH sells that go next to the window switches. More work, but it'll let me control the angel eyes independently of the parking lights and headlights. That'll also let me have the angel eyes off when the headlights are on.



They are not fog lights. They are sidelights or parking lights and they have to be separate from the amber indicator lamps. I think it is a DOT requirement

Fog lights would be located under the bumper.I wasn't sure what the right word for it was. Sidelights... learned a new word today! ;) I would assume it's a DOT requirement as well, so that certainly narrows down which country it's located in. I know the US legislation pretty much says once a car leaves the factory, no further modifications are required by law down the road, but I know at least some parts of Europe make similar requirements to every vehicle regardless of age or country of origin, and other parts of the world may have similar laws. I can't imagine someone would take a picture of their angel eyes on their headlights and sidelights unless they put it on themselves, so I would assume whatever country it's registered in also mandates the sidelights.

Looks like the license plate says "QLO" or "QLQ" vertically on the left side, although I couldn't find its country of origin on Google or Wikipedia. Wherever it's located, there can't be too many other DeLoreans there, and it seems their license plates don't have too many pictures floating around the internet.

[Dangermouse]

Maybe QLD? Queensland Australia?

[eagle-co94]

My first thought was Queensland, but I can't find an exact match online.

[Shep]

Maybe QLD? Queensland Australia?Could be. Might be seeing things, but it looks like there's a yellow letter next to the "Q". I was thinking an "E", but maybe it's an "A"?

[Dangermouse]

QLD QED

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i188/tina_trudgeon/2-2.jpg

and

http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/blnc/130205/616r1/2320cc5_20.jpeg

Guessing that the plate with QLD on the side gets fixed to the front of the car, and QLD in the middle goes on the back.

[eagle-co94]

So is that the design for a vanity tag then? Those plates appear different from all the others.

[Dangermouse]

I'm not sure whose car this is, except that it is in Europe

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17189&d=1363015698


I'd like to retract this comment and replace it with:

I'm am sure whose car this is, and it is in Australia :hihi2:

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17222&d=1363092274

I note that the sidelights/indicators have been reversed. Don't know if this daylight pic includes the angel/halo lamps or not.

[eagle-co94]

It looks like that's an older pic with "stock" headlights.

[Dangermouse]

So is that the design for a vanity tag then? Those plates appear different from all the others.

I would guess it is a vanity tag. The format is the same as the blue ones above, just the color is different. Perhaps the color combo represents a specific year or range of years. Maybe on vanity tags you can actually specify color also?

[Patrick C]

I'm not sure whose car this is, except that it is in Europe

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17189&d=1363015698



I can't help but see a resemblance to: http://cartoon-excellence.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/goofy-wallpaper.jpg

I don't think the angel eye rectangles are my cup of tea. But to each his own.

[Dangermouse]

I'm not sure whose car this is, except that it is in Europe

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17189&d=1363015698



I can't help but see a resemblance to: http://cartoon-excellence.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/goofy-wallpaper.jpg

.

Even though you don't seemed to have linked to it, now that I look at it I see:



https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSIEho9EQ1xfn4i2gcdBDbsDGj8WrJmF PIFEVssSAyu1eiZ8a030g

[bennyd]

I would guess it is a vanity tag. The format is the same as the blue ones above, just the color is different. Perhaps the color combo represents a specific year or range of years. Maybe on vanity tags you can actually specify color also?

Bingo!
Here, in most states at least, you can have up to 7 characters and a choice of several colour combinations for "personalised" plates (what you guys call vanity plates)
Western Australia will let you have up to 9 characters though.

[Patrick C]

Even though you don't seemed to have linked to it, now that I look at it I see:



https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSIEho9EQ1xfn4i2gcdBDbsDGj8WrJmF PIFEVssSAyu1eiZ8a030g

I linked to a picture of Goofy (that obviously didn't work), but same idea!

[refugeefromcalif]

George, are those angel eye bulbs incandescents or LED's? I'm curious which one comes in the kit.


Shep, they are standard incandescents.

George

[Shep]

Shep, they are standard incandescents.Thanks for the info! Not a fan of the incandescents for angel eyes. I don't want to pull out the headlight three times as often to be replacing bulbs.

And on that note, I actually came across a couple of quality angel eye units. They're much simpler than the eBay variants, coming only with the housing, angel eye bulbs, and the rubber boot for the headlight bulb (not the headlight bulb itself), but they claim they're metal housings. The problem was that I was looking in the wrong spot for them. I've been searching eBay for a pair, but I found three on Amazon:

(1) 4"x6" Chrome Housing Halo Diamond Cut Headlights [link (http://www.amazon.com/Chrome-Housing-Halo-Diamond-Headlights/dp/B006BHQK9G/)]
- These seem to be a quality unit, with a chrome housing and a glass lens. Compatible with HID conversions, the bluish color on the image comes from the bulbs. What held me up on this one was that it states it comes with two H3 bulbs, without mentioning whether they are incandescents or LED's, although presumably they are incandescents. Currently $40.00 (full price) with $5.70 shipping

(2) 4X6 H4651/H4652/H4656/H4666 Diamond Red/Green/Blue/White Halo Ring Headlights [link (http://www.amazon.com/H4651-H4652-H4656-Diamond-Headlights/dp/B008PWZKD2/)]
- These are also quality units, made with a chrome housing. No mention of the lens materials, but it does state that it's designed for H4 bulbs and comes with a set of 1.5W 194 LED bulbs for the angel eye effect, also coming with red, green, and blue caps to change the color of the angel eyes. These are the ones I purchased. Currently $52.99 (on sale from $70.00) with free shipping

(3) 4x6 Universal White With Halo Headlights Lamp [link (http://www.amazon.com/Universal-White-With-Halo-Headlights/dp/B009PNYCKC/)]
- These are a gamble, to be blunt. The name of the item is "lamp" singular, it comes with an "H4 halogen bulb" singular, and the pictures only show one unit, but it claims to come as a pair. Headlight bulb(s?) included. It states it's a glass lens, but from the pictures, the backing is very obviously plastic. Scarier yet is that the only mention of it having angel eyes is in the name of the item: "with halo". No other mention is made, and although it shows a small bulb attached to the housing, there is zero mention or picture of what the bulb actually is (incandescent/LED, wattage, size, etc.) Probably the same stuff sold on eBay, without all the extras like wiring converters. Currently $44.95 (full price) with $8.98 shipping

[Farrar]

(3) 4x6 Universal White With Halo Headlights Lamp

I rolled the dice on something similar. The back of the unit was indeed plastic, and the glass front was sealed to the plastic with what appeared to be a silicone/caulk-like material. The back of the bulb was sealed with rubber, which was significantly dry-rotted after a year. The small bulbs (blue, in my case) were incandescent, and they were held in place with a rubber grommet, one of which tore when I removed it from the housing. For some reason it just didn't look right on my car having what looked like four of the exact same "bulb," so I ditched the H4/H2 units and went back to stock sealed beam bulbs.

Also FWIW, I couldn't use the "halo" effect because the bulb stuck out too far from the back of the housing, interfering with the headlight bucket.

Anyway, that's just my experience.

[DMCMW Dave]

I have the original angel-eye lights.

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[Farrar]

I have the original angel-eye lights.

...which look proper.

When I had the H4/H2 units installed, I couldn't get around the fact that, until they were switched on, my DeLorean had four lights that looked exactly the same. There are subtle differences in appearance between the sealed beam units.

[Shep]

FWIW, I couldn't use the "halo" effect because the bulb stuck out too far from the back of the housing, interfering with the headlight bucket.Good to know! Hopefully two carefully-drilled holes to the bucket will circumvent that if the need arises, or possibly spacers of some sort (if that's even an option -- haven't worked with the headlights yet).

[john 05141]

The picture with a person sitting in it is certainly Welmoed. He has no DMC logo in his grille, so he can be spotted easily.

The lensens are not glass, plastic!!!
I have put mine on a year ago, and they look still as new as the day I installed them. But the car is always garage kept, hardly ever sees rain and the sun is not so bright here. I drove less than 1000 miles last year due to circumstances. My Sweden trip this year will make up for that. :rollin:

They look good, they feel cheap but that cannot be seen when installed. Easy to install, I don't think you can do anything wrong actually. But one mojor disadvantage... The one and only drive in the rain I've made show that they are not watertight!! I had condensation anside on both lights !
The car is still in storage for the winter that has returned to us. When I can, I will make pictures in the dark, but it may be a few weeks.



Jan

[Shep]

I'm in the process of installing the angel eyes I got (the model of which I indicated in a prior post in this thread). Just thought I'd give a few bullet points for those thinking about this process:

- There are ZERO permanent modifications required for this mod, and everything is easily reversible back to stock if so desired. Anything truly permanent is purely a mater of preference.

- If you're running the original OEM "Sealed Beam" units, you'll need to make sure you have the proper bulbs (H4 if on the outside, H2 if on the inside). The ones I got did not come with them, so I had to pick some up from an auto parts store. The plug is the same for the outer two, so there's no modifications needed on the plug end. Inner two I'm not sure about. Easy way to tell: if the headlights you're replacing have the words "Sealed Beam" on them, you'll need some bulbs.

- Behind the black plastic grille (with the DMC emblem on it), there's four bolts holding the front fascia onto the fiberglass underbody. I simply removed one of those bolts and fed the wire through the rivnut, which terminates inside the jack compartment. From there, I fed the wire up to the top of that compartment, over to the side, ran it under the trunk mat, then up into the hole containing the trunk release cable. From there, it's a matter of preference on where you want to hook up the wires. There's various grounds you can tap into along the way.

- One of the fuses in the fusebox is labeled as "unused". I haven't gotten this far yet, but I'm planning on replacing that with a fuse having a lower amp rating and connecting the power wire to that, having a switch downstream to turn the angel eyes on/off.

- The angel eye wiring does in fact make the unit stick out further than stock. I found some one-inch screws with the same diameter and thread pitch as the OEM screw and used those to attach the headlight. There is nothing behind the headlight buckets for the screws to bump up against, so you can tighten it as much as necessary until secure. I found that with the longer screws, my headlights only sat about a quarter inch more outward than usual, based on the masking tape I used to ensure consistent alignment. I also only attached two of these screws rather than all four, since access is difficult when there isn't much eyebrowing. While noticeable to the trained eye, what's more noticeable is the different glass pattern of the outer and inner units.

- The ones I got came with LED's, which only work in one direction. I could not tell polarity, so I plugged in the bulbs at random, separated the angel eye bulbs from the headlight units, then manually touched the wires directly to the battery. For each headlight, one of the two bulbs (statistical average!) was in the wrong way. After reversing the two incorrect ones, all four lit up properly. Much, much easier, quicker, and more reliable to do that kind of testing first rather than find out once everything's installed.

- If you're not going the route of stock wiring (which is massively overkill unless already exposed), use some quick-disconnect plugs so you can remove the front fascia, and also the headlights, independently. Without plugs, you'll have to cut the wires and solder/crimp them together when done, so do it right the first time!

[OutOfTime]

John / Shep -

Can you post some night time pics of the headlights? I'm interested in adding these to my list of future mods. Thanks!

Mark

[Shep]

Two things I forgot to mention: if you're upgrading from the stock Sealed Beam headlights to H4's, the plug needs to have the ground wire swapped with the light blue wire to work with the H4 bulbs. Fairly simple to do, just pull both out from the plug and switch where they're plugged in. No cutting/crimping/soldering required. If this is not done, you'll get some "feedback" into the brights, which will appear dimly lit whenever the headlights are on. Another important note: if you go the "longer screw" route, it really, really messes up your headlight alignment, so you'll need to align them using the longer screws themselves to point it properly. I'd recommend drilling appropriate holes in the headlight buckets for the angel eye wiring to go through. Otherwise, you'll need to align them every time you change any of the bulbs. Worse is the fact that the longer screws can tend to leave scratches on the inside of the fascia when putting them in or taking them out.


John / Shep -

Can you post some night time pics of the headlights? I'm interested in adding these to my list of future mods. Thanks!

MarkHere's some I took in my garage, with nothing but ambient lighting from an overhead light (i.e. no flash):

http://vin559.com/images/work_done/angel_eyes/resized/angeleyes01_640.jpg

http://vin559.com/images/work_done/angel_eyes/resized/angeleyes02_640.jpg

The next step for me is to find a matching pair of H2 housings for the brights. The second picture shows quite well how different they look, and it's noticeable up close when they're off. Particularly since the angel eyes have a clear lens whereas the stock housings have a ton of vertical ridges.

[OutOfTime]

Thank you for the pic!

[Shep]

Thank you for the pic!No problem! They do quite well at improving visibility even in the daytime :)

[Tomcio]

Shep, are you sure the inboard lights use H2? This is a very uncommon bulb. The ones I got for my car use H1 bulb. There are a number of older cars in Europe that use the same four light system as the DeLorean and AFAIK they all use H1.

H2:
18971

H1:
18970

[Shep]

Shep, are you sure the inboard lights use H2? This is a very uncommon bulb. The ones I got for my car use H1 bulb.Good catch! I apparently had the numbering mixed up. You are correct, the housings should be H1, not H2 :)

[Shep]

Two things I forgot to mention: if you're upgrading from the stock Sealed Beam headlights to H4's, the plug needs to have the ground wire swapped with the light blue wire to work with the H4 bulbs. Fairly simple to do, just pull both out from the plug and switch where they're plugged in. No cutting/crimping/soldering required. If this is not done, you'll get some "feedback" into the brights, which will appear dimly lit whenever the headlights are on.Correction on this: after switching the ground and the blue/white wire, the ground wire then needs to be switched again with the blue/red wire. Essentially when looking at the plug with the wires away from you, the pins need to be rotated one position counter-clockwise.


Another important note: if you go the "longer screw" route, it really, really messes up your headlight alignment, so you'll need to align them using the longer screws themselves to point it properly. I'd recommend drilling appropriate holes in the headlight buckets for the angel eye wiring to go through. Otherwise, you'll need to align them every time you change any of the bulbs. Worse is the fact that the longer screws can tend to leave scratches on the inside of the fascia when putting them in or taking them out.I just finished doing this with the passenger side. Two carefully placed 1/2" holes were enough to allow the headlight to seat flush against the bucket, and the short screws can now be reused. Driver's side will be done tomorrow or the day after. Start with a 1/16" drill bit making an indentation, then move to a 3/32" bit to drill the hole, and progressively work your way up to 1/2". Should take about an hour to an hour and a half for both headlights. I'll post pictures when I do the driver's side.

[Shep]

I just finished doing this with the passenger side. Two carefully placed 1/2" holes were enough to allow the headlight to seat flush against the bucket, and the short screws can now be reused. Driver's side will be done tomorrow or the day after. Start with a 1/16" drill bit making an indentation, then move to a 3/32" bit to drill the hole, and progressively work your way up to 1/2". Should take about an hour to an hour and a half for both headlights. I'll post pictures when I do the driver's side.And here's the picture:

http://vin559.com/images/work_done/angel_eyes/resized/angeleyes03_640.jpg
[link to full size here (http://vin559.com/images/work_done/angel_eyes/angeleyes03.jpg)]

Due to the curvature of the headlight and the fact that the angel eye LED light (H3?) sits partially recessed to remain facing forward, the wires do not need to be fed through those holes. It just needs the space for the wires to bend, since the insulation prevents them from making 90 degree corners. After taking that picture, I plugged the H4 headlight in, placed the headlight in the bucket, then reinstalled the retaining brackets. (I kept the longer screws since it helped me to guide it into the proper holes without removing the fascia, and doesn't touch anything behind it.) Both headlights are now installed fully and mostly aligned properly.

[Patrick C]

I just got done installing a set into my car. Unlike the others, these required no modifications to the headlight brackets in order for the "halo" wiring to work. The quality seems pretty good, and I love the look (even though I used to dislike the rectangular "halo" on these kits...go figure.) I trashed the bulbs that came with the kit and bought Phillips CrystalVision Ultra H4 Bulbs (Xenon powered halogens that are 4,000K whiteness.) They look more like HID than the normal bulbs. I tapped into the front marker lights for power, so whenever the parking lights are on, the LED halos are on.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/330769893107?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

[Shep]

The quality seems pretty goodCorrect me if I'm wrong, but the pictures in the ad show the housings being made of plastic (the material isn't mentioned in the ad). If I were you, I'd be very, very weary of extended headlight use with those things. It's one thing to have thick plastic above the headlights with some space between, but to have the full heat of the headlights may cause it to warp. Particularly since the halos are on whenever the headlights are on. Since you already have them installed, I'd recommend pulling them out and inspecting them more frequently than you would replace the bulbs just to ensure they're holding up well and to keep an eye on things until you're confident they'll hold up well. Not necessarily every time you do an oil change, just frequently enough to know they're still intact.

Let us know how it holds up over time -- if everything works and holds up well, that'll open up a lot of possibilities for the rest of us :thumbup:

[Patrick C]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the pictures in the ad show the housings being made of plastic (the material isn't mentioned in the ad). If I were you, I'd be very, very weary of extended headlight use with those things. It's one thing to have thick plastic above the headlights with some space between, but to have the full heat of the headlights may cause it to warp. Particularly since the halos are on whenever the headlights are on.

I'll keep you posted. The halos don't worry me in the least since they are LEDs and generate practically no heat whatsoever. We will see what happens. The way I see it, most new cars have plastic surrounds and lenses around H4 bulbs without melting problems.

[Lance]

'DMC-82' is my car (Lance Haslewood, Australia). I had halo lights fitted but removed them as they are pretty-much useless. Look nice without the headlights on, but once these are on, the halos are difficult to see. The lights themselves are of poor quality.

[AugustneverEnds]

I'll keep you posted. The halos don't worry me in the least since they are LEDs and generate practically no heat whatsoever. We will see what happens. The way I see it, most new cars have plastic surrounds and lenses around H4 bulbs without melting problems.

So how are these holding up for you?

[Patrick C]

So how are these holding up for you?

They are holding up really well. No problems to speak of.