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Rich
06-13-2014, 09:37 PM
Check out this blog entry at Hemmings Daily telling the story of Peter Giacobbi. He's noted in a recent Hemmings Sports and Exotic Cars article about the Sinthesis 2000, a one-off exotic in 1970. His work on that car with stylist Tom Tjaarda (think Pantera) helped him land a job working as Director of Engineering for John Z. later on, a job that involved him in the drivetrain selection and perhaps, had things gone differently, a lot more for DMC-12. I don't recall reading this bit of history in any of the DMC literature before.

LINK: peter-giacobbi-on-de-loreans-road-not-taken/ (http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/05/26/peter-giacobbi-on-de-loreans-road-not-taken/)

A few tidbits here out of the 5-paragraph blog entry which got a link at the end of the S&EC print article about the Sinthesis:


.....the Sinthesis remained a one-of-a-kind, but it did lead Peter to a job with another company interested in building a mid-engine GT. “Ultimately, I ended up being DeLorean’s director of engineering. I was instrumental in building the first two prototypes, actually designed the second one completely,” Peter says. John De Lorean “hired me because his vice president of engineering saw my car......"

“Because I speak French, I was the one who negotiated the deal with Renault for the Renault-Peugeot engine. They [JZD's Renault contacts] said, ‘You ought to go up and see the Alpine division.’ I drove an Alpine A110, and I’ve been racing cars all my life, so I drive fairly well......

Read about how we might have gotten more design and content for the DMC-12 from France than just the Renault/Peugeot/Volvo drivetrain....

Rich
06-13-2014, 09:50 PM
Further to the first post above:

While Peter G. did his test drives on behalf of DMC in the Alpine A110 it was the Alpine A310 V6 successor that ended up having quite a lot in common with the DMC-12, as most of us know. The target market, drivetrain and rear engine layout were major commonalities, as were the production volume (about 9,000 of the V6 cars, which came after an earlier 4-cyl version) and the era (produced in V6 form from 1976-1984). But Alpine managed to spread their production out a bit better than JZD did....

Michael
06-13-2014, 10:45 PM
Looks like he copied Lamborghini.

NightFlyer
06-19-2014, 03:26 PM
Interesting how JZD rejected the French frame, under the premise that he wanted to build an American car, but ultimately ended up with a British frame...

Ozzie
06-20-2014, 01:42 PM
Got curious on that rear engine Alpine A110 he drove, that had the frame he recommended to JZD, and found some pics:

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dmcjohn
06-20-2014, 02:14 PM
cool article.

Funny that my car actually does have part of an Alpine chassis in it (not the one pictured above, but from the later Alpine GTA model). It has the rearsubframe, along with a blend of DeLorean / Alpine chassis design to mate with the subframe and DeLorean body.

PlutonimicX
01-26-2016, 06:01 PM
Doesn't exactly belong in this thread probably but I didn't feel it was big enough to make its own thread. In this little discussion, a user by the name of Lou Lapham, claims to have been part of the team at Kar Kraft who built the first prototype. He has a brief paragraph about it in here but it would be cool to see more. Maybe someone here knows him?

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2016/01/26/mystery-midengine-the-fiero-shaped-clay-nobody-seems-to-know-about/#comments