Fan Speed 4 is no go. 1, 2, 3 work!

Hello DMC TALK!

In my disassembly of my dash, I knocked a few wires off the bottom of my blower motor. I thought they all were connected correctly, but when I went to turn my blower motor on I got nothing.

Stupidly, I unplugged one by one and tried to get the unit to function again.

A quick forum search revealed this:

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Originally Posted by DMCMW Dave

Could be the switch but most likely is the relay esp if it's an original.

Troublshooting chart for fan:

Lost all speeds - likely the fuse or the switch.

Lost speeds 1, or 1 and 2, or 1 and 2 and 3 but not 4 - resistor pack

Lost 3 and 4 but not one and two - circuit breaker.

Or any of the associated wiring in all cases.

Lost speed 3 or 4 only - relay or switch.

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Which is great! Thank you Dave!! But also it accounts for the wires being connected properly. Right now I have speeds 1, 2, and 3. no 4. I see speed 4 is on a relay, but I may have screwed something else up. I'll take a photo tonight of the wiring connected to the blower motor. I need a little hand holding and a slap.

I'm always getting slapped. (slapped=learning)

Thanks!!!

If speeds 1,2 and 3 are working it pretty much must be the #4 relay or the fan switch itself. I guess it could be your breaker but you would know that is bad because your fan speed #3 would stop working until the breaker reset.

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Originally Posted by Nuclearbacon

Hello DMC TALK!

In my disassembly of my dash, I knocked a few wires off the bottom of my blower motor. I thought they all were connected correctly, but when I went to turn my blower motor on I got nothing.
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Maybe the schematic found in the first post, first pic HERE in the Resources Section would help??

Man this whole work thing.... why can't I just spend all my time with my car? :)

Between work and radio I snapped a few photos under my blower motor where I knocked the connection loose.

http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/d...lower%205.jpeg

If I plug that connection in, I lose all blower speeds. If I leave it the way it is, I have fan speed 1, 2, and 3 but not 4.

From the wiring diagram, it looks like just another ground. ... ?

Does this somehow go back to the 4th relay? Doesn't look like it according to this:

http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/d...ctrical/AC.jpg

Should I just order a 4th speed relay and reconnect that ground and see?

Do you hear the relay for the 4th speed click? That will narrow down the problem.

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Originally Posted by Nuclearbacon

Should I just order a 4th speed relay and reconnect that ground and see?

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First, maybe take a peek at the wiring HERE.
?Main wires possibly reversed ? (Color washed out in pic here))

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As for ordering a relay, I'd suggest you swap it out with one of the other relays with the same number (see below):
Attachment 53690

I do not hear a click on the 4th speed relay. Why would plugging in that wire kill all speeds?

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Originally Posted by Ron

I'd suggest you swap it out with one of the other relays with the same number

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Can I swap the 3rd and 4th speed relays? Am I reading that right?

I agree with Ron on reversed wires. The Pink and Black (K/B on the schematic) is your positive wire and should not be plugged into the ground lug. All wires on that 3 pronged terminal should be black. You want to swap that plug with the Black wire plugged in on the separate terminal by itself.

Here is a picture of mine as an example. I don't have the red wire filter on mine so it looks a little different.

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?at...7&d=1506667243

Like this....
Attachment 53698

Try that before switching relays.

If you don't hear the relay click try swapping the 3rd and 4th speed relays. If you still do not hear the 4th speed relay click you must figure out why. It could be the ground connection for the 4th speed relay or somehow the power is not getting from the fan speed switch to the 4th speed relay. Very common to have a connector in the plastic block where the relay fits into to "back out" and not make contact with one (or more) of the relay terminals. Make sure the fan motor is wired up correctly first.