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    Quote Originally Posted by dvonk View Post
    what is going to happen to this vehicle?
    Ditto...

    Did DMC Houston purchase the vehicle? If not is the current owner considering restoration?

    Really interesting car. I'd be surprised if Stephen didn't want this one for DMCH if the purchase price was reasonable however the restoration will be timely and expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    Awesome James. I remember you hearing about this late last year.

    What sort of condition is it in? what's it's future
    It's rough as the pictures show. The car should not have survived, it should have been destroyed and it was assembled with that it mind. Fit and finish were secondary to getting the car into the test process. It would be a difficult restoration since all you can really do is clean up and refinish what is already there. Lots of handmade and one-off parts on the car.

    The current owner has had it since the original DMC stiffed him on a shipping bill back in 1982. He's done nothing to it at except put a lien on it and get a title.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmettee View Post
    I'm going to rib James a bit...why didn't you take a REAL camera instead of taking, blurry, dim cell phone pictures???

    Seriously, it's nice to see a locked away relic like this & find the differences.
    I thought I had packed it but it turns out it was left on my desk. The conditions for the photos, in an old poorly lit warehouse on a rainy day left much to be desired anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas R View Post
    Also check this photo out:


    Is it just me or is the grain of this panel sideways?
    On that one panel, the grain was vertical rather than horizontal. It's as if the blank was put in the press the wrong way. It was the only panel on the car like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by dvonk View Post
    what is going to happen to this vehicle?
    Until someone comes along and buys it, it will continue to sit in the warehouse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean02378 View Post
    Ditto...

    Did DMC Houston purchase the vehicle? If not is the current owner considering restoration?

    Really interesting car. I'd be surprised if Stephen didn't want this one for DMCH if the purchase price was reasonable however the restoration will be timely and expensive.

    Kirk
    We're not a buyer for something like this - it's just not our thing. Based on my conversations with the owner, he's in no hurry to sell and likes having it around. We talked a bit about what he would want for it, and he was very non-committal. He doesn't need the money, apparently, but somewhere between $20-30K would buy it, I think. As I mentioned above, a restoration would be tough and time consuming. Perhaps 4 or 5 Pilot cars have survived, and they are all different so I think the most you could really do would be to clean and repair what is on the car. Separating the frame/body to address the frame rust would be a must. Any of the unique/handmade parts that needed attention would have to be dealt with by having replacements made or gently repairing what you have.

    James

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    James,

    can you remind us again while it may be D9 or D12 (or maybe a combo of both)> The photos would seem to indicate D12.

    You thought this might be a Renault shifter panel:



    and indeed it is.

    From a 1979 Renault 30:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    James,

    can you remind us again while it may be D9 or D12 (or maybe a combo of both)> The photos would seem to indicate D12.
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    The DMC paperwork with the car seems to indicate that the car is D9. In truth, we may never know.

    James

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    Thanks so much for sharing!! Very cool treat to see it in it's original state.

    loving the grain on that fender too
    Last edited by crazycro; 08-16-2011 at 10:11 AM.

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    Thank you for sharing your pictures!

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    History of this car

    History of this car
    In researching my book on the DeLorean venture “Journey Through a Dream” I was delighted to come across two or three of the key staff involved in the development of the DeLorean car then employed by Lotus Cars. They were eventually transferred for a short time to Dunmurry in 1981 to assist in the various and many production issues on the vehicle. I knew both of the engineers in question very well. Highly qualified and competent engineers

    After one long conversation with one of the engine development guys he mentioned some bits of history that filled in some gaps that me and others have been researching for some time.

    The first related to the Gold Volvo 264 purchased by Omar in Ireland Omar wanted to know the history of his new purchase. I asked about for some time but no one recalled the vehicle. It was in a sorry state when Omar bought the car with a number of indications that it had been at Lotus. My contact (who will be made known to you later when I have his permission) told me that the Volvo was a comparator vehicle used for EPA testing at Lotus and spent many hours touring the Lotus test track at Hethel. I have told Omar the news and he is delighted.

    In another conversation today the same person told me of a DeLorean he was testing in the USA with registration plates OPW 651W. After a little research Robert Lamrock told me of the vehicle’s recent find as recorded by James Espey.

    At the request of Bosch the car was used for hot climate testing at Yuma. There was a Lotus employee and one from Bosch testing the car four weeks in the Yuma area. After testing was completed the car was dropped off as arranged at Craig Radio headquarters at Torrents (Spelling?).

    The initial paperwork and details for the cars flight out of the UK was incorrect and much had to be changed at the last minute.

    The car was prototype 9.

    He has photographs of the car taken during breaks in testing clearly showing the registration plates

    The ex Lotus man is checking the facts this weekend with a work colleague but feels sure that’s the correct Pilot number.

    I’ll let you know what he says

    Nick Sutton

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    Very interesting, Nick! Please keep us posted.

    James

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick sutton View Post
    He has photographs of the car taken during breaks in testing clearly showing the registration plates
    Thank you for the story.
    If you can, don't hesitate to post some historic pictures, it would be nice to share with us

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    Photo of Pilot 9

    I have asked for permission to show a photograph and awaiting the answer.
    Nick

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