Pilot 21 now in Germany?

[Dangermouse]

As recently as last year both Proto 1 and Pilot 21 were on show at GCMW facility in Bonita Springs FL, but I notice that Pilot 21 now appears to be in Germany at Deloman's place.

Anyone have any info on whether that is temporary, whether it's been sold, is it being refurbished etc.....


Also is Proto 1 still at GCMW or is it on the move too?

[Rich W]

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Also is Proto 1 still at GCMW or is it on the move too?

Although not really "moving", Proto 1 is currently on display in PA.

More details in article. Proto 1 is on exhibit at the AACA Museum in Hershey, Pennsylvania.

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2017/1...t-aaca-museum/

[GCMW Deloreans]

As recently as last year both Proto 1 and Pilot 21 were on show at GCMW facility in Bonita Springs FL, but I notice that Pilot 21 now appears to be in Germany at Deloman's place.

Anyone have any info on whether that is temporary, whether it's been sold, is it being refurbished etc.....


Also is Proto 1 still at GCMW or is it on the move too?

More to come on Pilot 21. Should be an announcement in February. As for Proto 1, the car is on loan to the AACA museum. Its return back to Bonita has not yet been determined.

thank you,

Mike

[Dangermouse]

Fascinating piece from Hank on the purchase and importation, including the creation of a new VIN for it SCEDT26T5AD0000021



http://www.deloman.de/projektemenu/d-m-c-12-pilot21

Plans to restore in time for Eurofest 2021

[Shep]

new VIN

What was the old one (was there one?)

[Dangermouse]

The old one just said D-21 and they needed to have a 17 character VIN to get a title. So they used AD for 1980 and then 000021

[Shep]

That does fascinate me that a VIN had to be fabricated with 17 digits. The old pre-1981 format was under 12 characters anyhow, there's no US law I'm aware of that says a modern VIN must be made up to get a title. Unless this is literally the first case of using the law that lets "hey you heard they're making a new DeLorean???" have some merit to it, that is.

Where was the VIN done, in the US, or once it arrived in Germany?

[pk2678]

The VIN was done in Germany while the car still was in the US at Gulf Coast Motorworks in Florida. The VIN plate was shipped to Florida and installed in the engine bay.

The old "VIN-plate" just showed

D-M-C 12
CHASSIS NO. D 21

So it wasn't a VIN at all. It did not need one, because the car was never registered. It was only used for emission tests on a test bench.
BTW. This was the first DMC-12 that had an automatic transmission.

[Shep]

So the VIN was added to grant a title that allows road use today, to summarize? That makes a lot more sense than how I had been thinking about it (I don't know German laws, so insight from another German helps).

Neat note on the first automatic one. I need to read up on the pilots again.

[Ron]

SCEDT26T5AD0000021

(Too many zeros... ;-)

Seriously tho, shouldn't the check digit be a 9 under ISO for a 1980 vehicle with that VIN??