FRAMING JOHN DELOREAN - ON VOD www.framingjohndeloreanfilm.com
Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: Solenoids Vs Actuators

  1. #1
    Junior Member
    Join Date:  Jul 2016

    Location:  Colton, CA

    Posts:    27

    My VIN:    5368

    Solenoids Vs Actuators

    Considering moving to actuators, can you help me summarize the advantages and disadvantages (if any)? my understanding is below, Thanks guys

    Actuators
    -Less power draw
    -Lightweight
    -Cheaper

    Disadvantages
    -May need to re-adjust torsion bar due to lighter weight
    Vin 5368. October 81 Grey Manual

  2. #2
    Senior Member hippieman9's Avatar
    Join Date:  Jan 2018

    Location:  Mebane, NC

    Posts:    346

    My VIN:    06668 81' Grey interior, 5 speed, Grooved hood. Previous owner of 16301, in 2001. Found Nov 2019, a

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaverick View Post
    Considering moving to actuators, can you help me summarize the advantages and disadvantages (if any)? my understanding is below, Thanks guys

    Actuators
    -Less power draw
    -Lightweight
    -Cheaper

    Disadvantages
    -May need to re-adjust torsion bar due to lighter weight
    I recently replaced my solenoids with actuators. I had a bad driver side solenoid. They install pretty quick and once your door panels are reinstalled there really isn’t that much difference in weight.

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date:  May 2011

    Posts:    605

    extra relays
    ugly wiring
    plastic
    can't be as long living as a solenoid (of course we know and understood meanwhile why the solenoids failed)


    When I rebuilt my door lock solenoids in 2002 I close afterwards installed door popper actuators.

    Guess what I had to replace in the meantime and what seems to fail again ?


    tip - it's not the metal cylinder with copper inside...

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date:  Apr 2017

    Location:  Madison, WI

    Posts:    56

    My VIN:    02530

    I switched out to Toby's actuators a couple of months ago after a long battle with my door wipe switch, lock module and of course the solenoids themselves. My door locks would sometimes work, sometimes not and it was really frustrating. After installing them I have had no problems and they work great. The install was very easy and the whole kit cost about the same as one new solenoid did. As for the weight, I thought it would be a problem but it's not a big deal at all. No torsion bar adjustment needed on my car.

  5. #5
    Senior Member DMC-81's Avatar
    Join Date:  Apr 2014

    Location:  Florida

    Posts:    2,371

    My VIN:    <2000

    Club(s):   (DCF)

    If you are concerned with originality and willing/able to do some soldering/rewinding work, then you can repair & upgrade both solenoids and your Door Lock Module (DLM) for around $40, or a total of $80 if your bobbins need replacing. I think the cost of this solution is on the lower end of what parts you are considering. It will take some time, so it isn't a quick fix compared to the time to install a new system.

    I did this a couple years ago and now my lock system is rock solid. Here's a thread to look through to see what it entails.
    Dana

    1981 DeLorean DMC-12 (5 Speed, Gas Flap, Black Interior, Windshield Antenna, Dark Gray)
    Restored as "mostly correct, but with flaws corrected". Pictures and comments of my restoration are in the albums section on my profile.
    1985 Chevrolet Corvette, Z51, 4+3 manual
    2006 Dodge Magnum R/T (D/D)
    2010 Camaro SS (Transformers Edition)

  6. #6
    Senior Member DavidProehl's Avatar
    Join Date:  May 2011

    Location:  Maple Grove, MN (Minneapolis)

    Posts:    1,423

    My VIN:    05457

    If you are worried about having to adjust your torsion bar after replacing them, just add in about 1 pound of weight. Lead scuba diving belt weights for example have slits in them you can easily run zip ties through and attach near the handle bracket. I weighted my doors like that for a couple years until I was able to re-adjust my torsion bars.
    David Proehl

  7. #7
    Junior Member
    Join Date:  Jul 2016

    Location:  Colton, CA

    Posts:    27

    My VIN:    5368

    Quote Originally Posted by DMC-81 View Post
    If you are concerned with originality and willing/able to do some soldering/rewinding work, then you can repair & upgrade both solenoids and your Door Lock Module (DLM) for around $40, or a total of $80 if your bobbins need replacing. I think the cost of this solution is on the lower end of what parts you are considering. It will take some time, so it isn't a quick fix compared to the time to install a new system.

    I did this a couple years ago and now my lock system is rock solid. Here's a thread to look through to see what it entails.
    I think that's the route I'm going to take, because of my line of work I'm luckily certified in soldering and wire harness assembly, however I'm a newbie to my DeLorean. I'll take the a look at the thread just need to find the instructions for them rebuild of the solenoids and instructions for upgrading the DLM.
    Vin 5368. October 81 Grey Manual

  8. #8
    Senior Member DMC-81's Avatar
    Join Date:  Apr 2014

    Location:  Florida

    Posts:    2,371

    My VIN:    <2000

    Club(s):   (DCF)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaverick View Post
    I think that's the route I'm going to take, because of my line of work I'm luckily certified in soldering and wire harness assembly, however I'm a newbie to my DeLorean. I'll take the a look at the thread just need to find the instructions for them rebuild of the solenoids and instructions for upgrading the DLM.
    Cool. The article for rewinding the solenoids was from Dave Stragand posted on the old DMC News site: http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/s.../Rewinding.htm

    I think the links to the pictures are broken. However I have several pictures with comments on the process in the Electrical album on my profile which explains the processes as well.
    Last edited by DMC-81; 06-26-2018 at 01:25 PM.
    Dana

    1981 DeLorean DMC-12 (5 Speed, Gas Flap, Black Interior, Windshield Antenna, Dark Gray)
    Restored as "mostly correct, but with flaws corrected". Pictures and comments of my restoration are in the albums section on my profile.
    1985 Chevrolet Corvette, Z51, 4+3 manual
    2006 Dodge Magnum R/T (D/D)
    2010 Camaro SS (Transformers Edition)

  9. #9
    www.delorean.eu
    Join Date:  Jul 2011

    Location:  The Netherlands

    Posts:    72

    My VIN:    11626

    new made solenoids are on stock in Europe

    Last year we did made a new run of door solenoids L and R hand.
    Delorean Europe
    https://www.delorean.eu/catalog/prod...ucts_id=122047

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •