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Thread: Auction for VIN 973 - Wichita KS - Monday 3/4/2019 6PM CST

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    Junior Member TIMETRK-KS's Avatar
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    My VIN:    D2T40-0094 Tow Tractor, 10191 (2010), 961 (2002-2009)

    Auction for VIN 973 - Wichita KS - Monday 3/4/2019 6PM CST

    Hello everyone,

    I thought this had better be shared with the DeLorean community as VIN 973 is up for auction in Wichita, KS on Monday, March 4th at 6 PM CST. I have been following this car for the last 3-4 years from my first sighting. The owner of the dealership where it sits told me it was wrapped up in a previous owner's estate and had been locked up in probate for years. However, it now appears that the car is finally up for auction. I would love to bring this one home but I do not have the funds or garage space at the moment to tackle such a monumental project. I had considered parting it out but then figured that was against my DeLorean ethics and if not mine someone should get a crack at this project. This car is in really bad shape, however to the right individual this might be your entry into DeLorean ownership on the lower end to begin a restoration process. Please note this will be a labor of love, a lot of time and many thousands of dollars.


    I wished I had taken pics of the undercarriage and frame on one of my visits but I can say the frame is probably the better part of the car aside from the straight body panels and grooved gas flap hood. I would consider this car for a frame off or frame on intact restoration. I believe it has not seen much Kansas winter driving with road salt problems. I believe the poor thing has been left outside to the Kansas elements for quite some time. However the nose must have been pointed south as the rear tail light housings are not faded. A surprise considering the rest of the car!

    Also having been a previous owner for VIN 961 I am familiar with early VIN DeLoreans. Looking at the VIN plate it appears this one was pulled off the production line and had troubleshooting issues or might have had some company use (speculation)? The VIN plate should be stamped APRIL 81 but instead has 12 4 81 for a stamped date. It does have the windshield inlaid antenna, early black interior and early automatic shifter, oddly routed engine coolant hose (which I hated when changing driver side spark plugs!) but has later style silver wheels and center caps. I think this car has some history for someone who wants to pursue it.

    Here's the link for the auction:

    As of 2/28/2019 at 9:30 AM CST auction is sitting at $3,250.00!!!

    Good Luck bidding! Hope this one finds a good home! If you need some help loading it up give me a call. Bring a truck, trailer and a winch to get it off the lot. For the right reimbursement I might be willing to help or arrange transport for the central and mid-western states.

    Matt Metzinger
    Arkansas City, KS

    Currently own and rebuilding DMC Logan T-40 Tow Tractor D2T40-0094
    VIN 10191 / Rebuild assistant 2010
    VIN 961 / May 2002 - Sept 2009

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    Senior Member bfloyd's Avatar
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    Looking at that VIN plate... does it show the build date as April 12, 1981 or December 4, 1981? I'm used to seeing MM/DD/YY on everything, but I know some places list them as DD/MM/YY.
    Barry Floyd
    Lebanon, Tennessee
    VIN 3294 - Aug. 81

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfloyd View Post
    Looking at that VIN plate... does it show the build date as April 12, 1981 or December 4, 1981? I'm used to seeing MM/DD/YY on everything, but I know some places list them as DD/MM/YY.

    That VIN would be April. December VINs would be above 6000 numbers and also the later VIN plates only have the
    month and year. I am not sure when the plates were changed to show just the month and year.
    Last edited by JETS 81 DMC; 02-28-2019 at 12:33 PM.

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    Junior Member TIMETRK-KS's Avatar
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    My VIN:    D2T40-0094 Tow Tractor, 10191 (2010), 961 (2002-2009)

    Yes, pardon me. When we always use MM DD YYYY here for date notation how quick I forget that across the pond they may have used DD MM YYYY notation. I believe this would note 12th day of April 81. Makes more sense now.

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    One of the things that immediately jumped out at me was the driver's side rear striker pin appears to be sheared off. That's almost certainly due to this being a 3 digit VIN car with those infamous prototype-tooling doors. Add new doors to the budget, on top of everything else. Gotta love that vintage radar detector mounted under the dash to the left of the steering wheel; I see vintage cruise control equipment in the engine compartment, too. I didn't even notice the thin grey stripe initially... the elements have almost completely reclaimed it. It's always interesting to see cars in this state!

    Anybody else notice the second DeLorean in the background?
    Louie Golden

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    Junior Member TIMETRK-KS's Avatar
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    My VIN:    D2T40-0094 Tow Tractor, 10191 (2010), 961 (2002-2009)

    Yes, there is a 2nd DeLorean in the background. On my last visit dealer told me it is a car in for repairs and is not for sale. Good eye!

    I don't believe the bolt is sheared off but the best photo from that angle does not show much. I believe some door alignment issues might explain the fiberglass damage in the other photo.
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    Looking at the body of the car I was saying, yeah, she's got scrapes and what not but even if you have to replace the engine and transmission you could make out. Then came the interior shots and it blows the deal.

    It's going to be interesting what she sells for in the end.

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    While rough and in need of a good cleaning, inside and out, this car has a lot of potential. It's better than some of the cars that BHCC is selling for nearly 20K. Obviously it will need seat covers, headliners, a binnacle, dash and passenger knee pad. The fuel system will likely require the typical K-Jet shotgun replacement, or in the alternative a carb / EFI conversion. I would replace anything rubber as, brake and coolant hoses, brake master and caliper seals. From the rear picture the engine cradle looks good. However, the crumple tube might be a whole different story. Also, the internal engine condition is a big question mark. It may be seized from sitting or the victim of previous overheating.

    The glass and stainless look good. Plus it's a gas flap hood car. The hood alone is worth 2/3rds of the current $3,250.00 auction price.

    I noticed that this car never got fitted with door guides. I think I have only seen one other DeLorean that didn't have them. Also IIRC, DD/MM/YY is a European thing, while on this side of the pond we use MM/DD/YY.

    This car would likely be a good candidate to restore to "presentable driver" status. IMHO, the "presentable driver" cars are the most fun, but that's just me. If I didn't already have 8 cars, including 2 Deloreans, I would highly consider this one as a fun project.

    Last edited by Andrew; 02-28-2019 at 05:37 PM.
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    This car is going to need everything. If you buy it and then have a shop do all the work it cannot make sense. The only way to do it is for a knowledgeable owner with tools, money, and a place to work, fix it up. It will still cost every bit of $15K in parts. And that assumes the motor and transmission can be brought back to life and the frame isn't too rotten. While it is better than many of the offerings from BHCC, it isn't far from what they sell. Working backwards, this car will not be a concours winner so the best it will be worth done is $30K. If you have to spend $15K on parts, you can't spend more than $10K to buy it and have some cushion making no money on your labor. if the frame is rotten and the motor bad, then the best strategy is to part it out and sell the body and Title to DMCH. Or maybe BHCC will be offering this car soon!
    David Teitelbaum

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    I'd buy it if I could spare the extra $. Always wanted a low vin D!
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