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Thread: Drivetrain Refurb questions

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    I don't see that your rear main questions where addressed. You shouldn't have to drain the oil to change the seal. Make sure the new seal comes with the gasket for the plate the seal rides in. When you get the plate off, take a picture of how far in the hole in the plate that the seal is installed. It will be important if your crankshaft is scored from the seal lip - if the seal is all the way in the plate, install the new seal a little bit further out - there should be enough room in the plate. This will result in the new seal missing the score on the crank. Make sure you support the plate when installing the new seal or you'll warp the plate.

    When I removed my transmission, I used a tow strap from the front of the engine to the rear sway bar to keep it from moving. You can also use a bottle jack under the engine to accomplish this.

    I don't recall a need for specialty tools, maybe a large socket for the shaft nuts. I do recall having a hard time trying to find anaerobic sealant for sealing the transmission halves upon assembly but this is back when I lived in a tiny upstate NY town 15 years ago-it may be readily available in your local store. Make sure you order everything you need all in one shot, nothing like realizing you need something and then waiting another week for parts to arrive. Other things you should replace while you're at it is the bellows 103131 and seal 103049 along with the seals for the drive axles if those are leaking. I again recommend a new bushing kit for the shifting linkage and a new crossgate cable. I thought my old crossgate cable was good until I got the new one and compared. I even tried to grease the old one with no luck.

    Biggest thing I can tell you when you are putting the transmission back together: do not go by the DeLorean manual for installing the differential, you will install it backwards. Be sure that you DO NOT INSTALL THE DIFFERENTIAL BACKWARDS! You'll be heartbroken when you go to pull your car out of garage and can't because you have 5 reverse gears and 1 forward. I made this mistake- nothing like having to drain your new transmission fluid, remove the transmission, crack it back open, etc.
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    amen to the backwards diff gear!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dn010 View Post
    I don't see that your rear main questions where addressed. You shouldn't have to drain the oil to change the seal. Make sure the new seal comes with the gasket for the plate the seal rides in. When you get the plate off, take a picture of how far in the hole in the plate that the seal is installed. It will be important if your crankshaft is scored from the seal lip - if the seal is all the way in the plate, install the new seal a little bit further out - there should be enough room in the plate. This will result in the new seal missing the score on the crank. Make sure you support the plate when installing the new seal or you'll warp the plate.

    When I removed my transmission, I used a tow strap from the front of the engine to the rear sway bar to keep it from moving. You can also use a bottle jack under the engine to accomplish this.

    I don't recall a need for specialty tools, maybe a large socket for the shaft nuts. I do recall having a hard time trying to find anaerobic sealant for sealing the transmission halves upon assembly but this is back when I lived in a tiny upstate NY town 15 years ago-it may be readily available in your local store. Make sure you order everything you need all in one shot, nothing like realizing you need something and then waiting another week for parts to arrive. Other things you should replace while you're at it is the bellows 103131 and seal 103049 along with the seals for the drive axles if those are leaking. I again recommend a new bushing kit for the shifting linkage and a new crossgate cable. I thought my old crossgate cable was good until I got the new one and compared. I even tried to grease the old one with no luck.

    Biggest thing I can tell you when you are putting the transmission back together: do not go by the DeLorean manual for installing the differential, you will install it backwards. Be sure that you DO NOT INSTALL THE DIFFERENTIAL BACKWARDS! You'll be heartbroken when you go to pull your car out of garage and can't because you have 5 reverse gears and 1 forward. I made this mistake- nothing like having to drain your new transmission fluid, remove the transmission, crack it back open, etc.
    Thank you for all the good info. I may just try the bushings and crossgate cable this time around without cracking open the tranny at all. Ill see if replacing everything else that I already have parts for ends up solving my problem.
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    As long as the transmission is already out, opening it up isn't that big a deal. You should open it to inspect the roll pin, the 5th gear fork, and the 2 big nuts at a minimum.
    David Teitelbaum

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    And it starts.... I have the car up on blocks, and have already drained and pulled the master cylinder, plastic clutch line, and rock guards. Tomorrow, I’ll disconnect the axles and the starter..... fun fun! Can anyone tell me exactly what I should be disconnecting on the front of the transmission by the cross gate cable? just the bracket that holds it right? I would prefer not to have to reset the setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trstno1 View Post
    And it starts.... I have the car up on blocks, and have already drained and pulled the master cylinder, plastic clutch line, and rock guards. Tomorrow, I’ll disconnect the axles and the starter..... fun fun! Can anyone tell me exactly what I should be disconnecting on the front of the transmission by the cross gate cable? just the bracket that holds it right? I would prefer not to have to reset the setting.
    Yes. I disconnected the just the bracket so I wouldn't have to readjust everything.

    Here is another refurb tread to reference if if helps.

    http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?14...ox-flaw-repair

    There is also tons of pictures and comments in the Manual transmission repair and restoration album on my profile.

    Good luck.
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    Figure on at least checking and maybe tweaking that adjustment anyway. Drain the transaxle so you don't make a mess. The procedure in the Workshop Manual is pretty good. F:05:01. You didn't have to raise it so high.
    David Teitelbaum

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMC-81 View Post
    Yes. I disconnected the just the bracket so I wouldn't have to readjust everything.

    Here is another refurb tread to reference if if helps.

    http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?14...ox-flaw-repair

    There is also tons of pictures and comments in the Manual transmission repair and restoration album on my profile.

    Good luck.
    Nice reference, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by David T View Post
    Figure on at least checking and maybe tweaking that adjustment anyway. Drain the transaxle so you don't make a mess. The procedure in the Workshop Manual is pretty good. F:05:01. You didn't have to raise it so high.
    Drain the transaxle.....check. Btw, does anyone have a pic of the redline ppl are talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trstno1 View Post
    Drain the transaxle.....check. Btw, does anyone have a pic of the redline ppl are talking about?
    What sort of tool do I need to get the transaxle drain plug off? Is it reverse thread? I’m just rounding it with what ever I try. PIA!
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