FRAMING JOHN DELOREAN - ON VOD www.framingjohndeloreanfilm.com
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11

Thread: Car in storage for 20 years; doors stuck shut!

  1. #1
    Junior Member
    Join Date:  Feb 2021

    Posts:    2

    Question Car in storage for 20 years; doors stuck shut!

    Hi everyone,

    I'm trying to recover a DeLorean which has been hidden in a closed warehouse for the past 20 years. The original owner has handed me the keys, but after multiple tries I cannot get either door to open.

    When I turn the key I can hear inside the door that the mechanism is moving / latch is opening(?) but the doors remain firmly shut.

    Is there a way (even if near impossible if what I've been reading in the forum is true) to open the doors from the outside without damage to the car / locks?

    George

  2. #2
    Senior Member Rich's Avatar
    Join Date:  May 2011

    Location:  San Francisco Bay Area, Calif.

    Posts:    2,082

    My VIN:    0934

    Club(s):   (NCDMC) (DCUK)

    First things first. And a few ground rules.

    A. Question: Did you turn the door key in the unlock direction? All the way? Before lifting the handle?

    Unlock directions for both doors: Rotate the top of the door key toward rear of the car before lifting the handle.

    No need to force the key. The lock cylinder should rotate easily about 90 deg. at least on the two-key cars. Just be sure they key turns all the way to its stop position, then lift the door handle.

    B. Info: Do NOT lift the door handle with a lot of force hoping to un-stick the door. The original handles are weak and can break/crack.

    Even if the rubber seals are sort of stuck the door should move a least a little after the front and rear latches start to release. If you want to try lifting the door with more force keep the door handle in the full up/release position with normal force after unlocking then add more force by lifting the door from its lower edge, just above the black plastic sill below it.

    The mechanism you hear when you turn the key is the lock-unlock linkage. You should be able to look at the inside door lock rocker in the middle of the door armrest and see it move forward and back when you turn the key back and forth. The handle-to-latch linkage is separate but connected to the lock linkage.
    March '81, 5-speed, black interior

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date:  May 2011

    Location:  Houston

    Posts:    706

    My VIN:    16113

    Club(s):   (SCDC) (DCUK)

    It almost sounds like the linkage is messed up. There is a clip in the door that holds tension on the linkage. Kinda hard to explain without seeing it. I'm surprise both doors won't open. You may need to contact one of the DMC facilities for advice. Keep us posted.
    Shannon

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date:  May 2011

    Location:  Northern NJ

    Posts:    8,581

    My VIN:    10757 1st place Concourse 1998

    It could be that you have the door unlocked but it is stuck closed because the door gasket is sticking. Try lifting the door as you pull on the handle. Do NOT pull hard on the door handle or it can break. You should be able to feel the mechanism locking and unlocking as you turn the key.
    David Teitelbaum

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date:  May 2011

    Posts:    1,313

    My VIN:    03238 Grey & Black Hybrid - Auto - work in progress Former owner 10902 - Universal 93 Raffle Car

    Even better, lift the door handle to disengage the latches only, and then use another hand or better another person to lift the door itself by gripping at the bottom edge with their fingertips. One hand near the front of the door and one near the rear. You may be able to tell if one latch has disengaged but the other has not.

    You also should tell us where you are. Its possible that someone here lives a mile away...
    Last edited by TTait; 03-03-2021 at 09:22 PM.

  6. #6
    Junior Member
    Join Date:  Feb 2021

    Posts:    2

    Hi all,

    Many thanks for your responses and suggestions.

    I've tried moving the lock cylinder to the unlock position, lifted the door handle without excessive force but the door is still not opening. My guess was that the rubber seals are stuck; after trying with extra force by lifting from the lower edge, the door wouldnt move at the slightest. This brings to mind that the issue is greater than it appears.

    I'm considering to bring over a locksmith and attempt again.

    Disclaimer: I am located in Cyprus, and this car is absolutely unique over here. We unfortunately have no experience with it and i'm afraid that even an expert locksmith may do damage to the door.

    If you have any further suggestions do please let me know.

    George

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date:  Aug 2015

    Location:  Novi, MI

    Posts:    413

    My VIN:    4665

    As mentioned above, it is strange that both doors have the same behavior. What is the most likely cause that would both doors have the exact same symptoms? The principle of Occam's razor comes to mind here.

  8. #8
    Senior Member Rich's Avatar
    Join Date:  May 2011

    Location:  San Francisco Bay Area, Calif.

    Posts:    2,082

    My VIN:    0934

    Club(s):   (NCDMC) (DCUK)

    From post #2 there is still one diagnosis question to answer before locksmithing.

    See boldface below. If you see the interior lock rocker move forward and back as you turn the key to full lock-unlock positions then you know the lock cylinder linkage is connected between those points. That rocker is black, about 4cm x 8cm and is not labeled.

    Can you verify interior lock rocker moves in unison with exterior lock-key?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    First things first. And a few ground rules.....

    Even if the rubber seals are sort of stuck the door should move a least a little after the front and rear latches start to release. If you want to try lifting the door with more force keep the door handle in the full up/release position with normal force after unlocking then add more force by lifting the door from its lower edge, just above the black plastic sill below it.

    The mechanism you hear when you turn the key is the lock-unlock linkage. You should be able to look at the inside door lock rocker in the middle of the door armrest and see it move forward and back when you turn the key back and forth. The handle-to-latch linkage is separate but connected to the lock linkage.
    March '81, 5-speed, black interior

  9. #9
    Senior Member DMC-81's Avatar
    Join Date:  Apr 2014

    Location:  Florida

    Posts:    2,371

    My VIN:    <2000

    Club(s):   (DCF)

    This is great advice so far, but you can also try lifting the door handle enough the release the latch, while simultaneously pressing down on the front latch area, then the rear latch area, and if necessary, both areas. Press down on the door and jiggle/vibrate the latch.

    What you're trying to do is release a latch mechanism that is stuck by excessive upward force.

    One of my doors would stick when I first got my car because the door striker pins were out of alignment. Therefore, the front latch was getting stuck as described above. This is the way I was able to open the door. Before I was able to adjust the pins, the door would stick if closed too hard.
    Dana

    1981 DeLorean DMC-12 (5 Speed, Gas Flap, Black Interior, Windshield Antenna, Dark Gray)
    Restored as "mostly correct, but with flaws corrected". Pictures and comments of my restoration are in the albums section on my profile.
    1985 Chevrolet Corvette, Z51, 4+3 manual
    2006 Dodge Magnum R/T (D/D)
    2010 Camaro SS (Transformers Edition)

  10. #10
    Senior Member bfloyd's Avatar
    Join Date:  Nov 2014

    Location:  Lebanon, Tennessee

    Posts:    389

    My VIN:    3294

    Like the post before mine said, although it seems the opposite of what you think would work, when my drivers side door became stuck I found that pressing DOWN on the door (while lifting the handle) got it to free up. It's never a cool look to have to crawl over the console to exit out the passenger side - especially at 54 years old!
    Barry Floyd
    Lebanon, Tennessee
    VIN 3294 - Aug. 81

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •