Pilot Car auction - 15 years ago

[matt clark]

I remember looking at this page when I first got access to the internet, way back when:

http://www.dmcnews.com/Resource/Prot...prototype.html

Was it ever worked out what pilot car it was? Also - who took those photos? Are they still around in the community? Would be great to see them in higher res...






Apologies if this has been covered.

[Dangermouse]

Interesting.

The only cars that I have seen with the sliding window are Proto 1, which this isn't, and Pilot 20

However, based on the Pilot pages of PJ Grady, I am confused.

http://www.pjgrady.co.uk//GenericCon...ilot_Cars.html

They show D20 with both sliding and toll windows. D20 has a standard steering wheel, but D19 has the 2 spoke wheel from your picture, but, again, the toll window.

[matt clark]

Quite a few pilots had the sliding windows - the Visioneering car did, and wasn't that the first car of the new shape? I'm waiting on Nick S hopefully being able to ID a pilot car that I have photos of (framed pictures that allegedly came from the factory), and that also has sliding windows.

My understanding was that the sliding windows were around right up until production, but the photos on the PJ Grady site show D5 with the tollbooths, so who knows? I've got a bunch of images of D22 which are tollbooth cars.

[louielouie2000]

Was it ever worked out what pilot car it was? Also - who took those photos? Are they still around in the community?

If I recall, it was James Espey (V.P. of DMC Texas) himself who took the photos. I might be mixing up my rare DeLorean stories, but it seems he knows where the car is currently, and the car's owner does not want to be bothered by the DeLorean community. You can always contact James directly, he is a goldmine of info when it comes to historic DeLoreans.

[Dangermouse]

Quite a few pilots had the sliding windows - the Visioneering car did, and wasn't that the first car of the new shape? I'm waiting on Nick S hopefully being able to ID a pilot car that I have photos of (framed pictures that allegedly came from the factory), and that also has sliding windows.

My understanding was that the sliding windows were around right up until production, but the photos on the PJ Grady site show D5 with the tollbooths, so who knows? I've got a bunch of images of D22 which are tollbooth cars.

I would have though several of the cars would have had the sliders, but the only ones I've actually seen puictures of are P-1 and D20.

D9, 19, 22 & 25 all have tolls. I can't find my pics of 21 atm.

[Farrar]

Off topic, but -- why was the battery moved?

[matt clark]

When I said "I've got a bunch of images of D22 which are tollbooth cars." I actually meant to say "sliding". Can't edit my post now. Whoops!

[PlutonimicX]

If I am not mistaken that seems to be the Visioneering car. It just looks different because it has production wheels and is lacking the rear louvers. It's a shame the owner won't allow the public DeLorean community see the car as it currently sits.

[matt clark]

If I am not mistaken that seems to be the Visioneering car. It just looks different because it has production wheels and is lacking the rear louvers. It's a shame the owner won't allow the public DeLorean community see the car as it currently sits.

I did wonder that; but the auction states that the car never had a grille and that it specifically was a Lotus prototype - which leads me to think it wasn't the V-car.

[PlutonimicX]

There wasn't as much information then as there is now. Another important detail from those pictures is that the interior looks to be fully trimmed to a high standard. Hardly a concern on any of the development pilot cars I think.