Bannings***Split From Increasing DeLorean values.***

[Jonathan]

FWIW, I think the moderators here have been pretty even-handed overall. A price-fixing scheme would have sent up a red flag for me, and if someone decides to violate rules which are plainly and clearly posted, then someone can expect to get banned. I've been on other forums where there's more flamebait and in-jokes than information. That gets very old very fast and frustrates anyone who comes to your site in search of something useful. I may not like everyone on DMCTalk and not everyone here may like me, but I came back because I think it's the best forum on the web for DeLorean info and keeping up with other owners. It's not perfect, but it's free, so what more can we ask for?

Thus endeth my $.02.

Farrar

Well this thought above is up to 4 cents because I agree completely with everything Farrar here said.

Especially about the moderators being fair part. Somethings you like and something you don't. I'm happy though that they give you the opportunity to find out what flies and what doesn't, get some time to cool off if needed, and recognize not everyone is cut from the same cloth (and won't handle various comments the same way as someone else might).

Fair is key. Knowing you are pushing your luck and continuing to be a child means you're gone and shouldn't be surprised about it.

[Farrar]

Somebody should give him Bill R's email. I bet they'd get along very well.

We'll see -- they're on an e-mail list together.

[OverlandMan]

The race card.... really?!

No kidding. I like how he threatened Ron on the PS by saying if that's the case you and your board are screwed.

What a joke.

[Mike C.]

I 've just seen this, as I have just returned from the Celebration Exotic Car Festival weekend.


I'm not going to re-open all unnecessary of this topic except to say that comments like:

seanroth: You can ban my ass foreve but I already have another handel that I use and have been using since mid 2012. You will never find it and I am on it weekly, so oh well. BTW, I use that when I am at Starbucks and other places so good luck with that IP address too.

and the attitudes of persons like this are what drive people away from DMCTalk.

We have banned persons from this forum for one reason or another, and it's never after one offense. It's those select few that decide that warning after warning after warning does not apply to them and continue to either badger persons on the board, troll for a response, or continue to make snide remarks--including those going political, or showing general disrespect for another forum member or members, we finally have no choice but to issue bans.

With that being said, persons like seanroth or steve rice (and no, I have no problem calling people out at all) who have nothing better to do with their lives except create new logins with the sole intention of disrupting the forum and causing a disruption by carrying on the same attitudes and activities which caused their bans in the first place are the number one thing we as Administrators and Moderators have to deal with.

For whatever reason, these trolls have nothing but a need to disrupt the information flow this forum provides. If these persons were such delorean enthusiasts, why not just participate on the forum properly and CONTRIBUTE, rather than be a distraction and tear down the hard work that others have put forth in an effort to help out? No, instead these persons feel that it's 'fun' to be complete internet assholes (for lack of a better term) by constantly trying to rejoin a community they were banned from FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS.

The sad truth is, if one of them bothered to apologize and make some kind of good faith gesture, I would have had no problem with allowing them to come back to the forum on a moderated basis, and then if no further issues, restore them to active status. But instead, they decided to make multiple logins in order to make immature posts like what you've seen in this thread, or in one case, posting a video of them creating a fake login in order to post on DMCTalk, thinking they were being funny or creative.

Unfortunately, until these people figure out they are not wanted here, they are going to keep disrupting real member's activities, and for that I apologize.

[ccurzio]

Well said, Mike.

[Nicholas R]

I used to moderate a forum a few years back and it was always the same. Banned folks always thought they could get away with other handles. Thing is, even under another name they couldn't hide the fact that it was them and always got caught.

Honestly, if they started another name, stayed below the radar, and never got caught, I never cared because it meant they weren't disrupting the forum. I never hunted ip addresses or anything. As far as I was concerned, if you could make another name and actually contribute to the forum positively then who cares. But they never could; they always slipped up and it would come out who they were and they'd get banned again (not even as much because it was that person but because of the kind of crap they'd be pulling again).

Granted that was the kind of forum where nobody really knew each other in the real world. Anonymity was easy. Obviously it's even more difficult to stay anonymous here when so many people know each other in the real world. Plus things like VINs, locations, actual names, etc. really help identify one another.

Edit: this is my 1234th post! (Only excited because I missed all my other milestones, lol)

[Ron]

Well said, Mike.

That's why he gets the big bucks..

[sdg3205]

That's why he gets the big bucks..

Raises for everyone!