Thanks Mark thats very kind. I believe I could slip them on the reseviour posts and tell right away if they were tighter. What would you like for compensation? Will they slip into an envelope? I'm heading up to Siren WI. in a short while-- 1 week-- to do some work, but I'll give you an address here to mail to-- Alan Hebzynski, C/O Mike Sawyer 381 Independance . San Benito TX 78586. I'll also call DMCMW and see if they can supply new. Probably won't be able to get back to it for a month. Got a couple days of scrapping, rust treatment and repaint on the frame. Darn, I just did that 15 years ago.