Anyone know the VIN cutoff of the 'flush' mounted quarter panel glass and when the recessed quarter panel glass started?
Location: Sunfield, Michigan, USA
Posts: 2,444
My VIN: 1798
Anyone know the VIN cutoff of the 'flush' mounted quarter panel glass and when the recessed quarter panel glass started?
Location: Taylors SC
Posts: 5,326
My VIN: (former)05429
Club(s): (DMWC) (DCUK)
The mounting is the same, the glass Is glued from behind. The difference is only whether or not the rubber filler strip is in place. I have not seen an official engineering memo but my gut feel is in the vin6000 range.
Dave S
DMC Midwest - retired but helping
Greenville SC
Posts: 520
any visual reference?
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Location: Taylors SC
Posts: 5,326
My VIN: (former)05429
Club(s): (DMWC) (DCUK)
Here is one with the rubber trim and one without. Subtle but the one with the trim looks a bit more finished. It's similar but smaller rubber than the door glass surround.
The one without the rubber trim just uses the adhesive to fill the gap.
It's a pain to install so it's not unusual to see it on one side of a car and not the other.
Glue Fill (EARLY) : no_mould.jpg
Rubber Fill (LATE) : with_mould.JPG
Quick survey here this morning - Limited to my sample size of 25-ish cars, the rubber filler appears on low-6000 vin and 7000-vin cars (and 82/83 cars), never on anything lower numbered than that. I'll still say VIN6000.
Last edited by DMCMW Dave; 11-12-2013 at 10:09 AM. Reason: added VIN detail
Dave S
DMC Midwest - retired but helping
Greenville SC
Location: Stevens Point,WI
Posts: 2,471
My VIN: 6125
My VIN is 6125 and it has the later style rubber seal...
Just one more thing I really didn't pay much attention to prior to owning a D.
Location: Taylors SC
Posts: 5,326
My VIN: (former)05429
Club(s): (DMWC) (DCUK)
It's like the wheel castings.Originally Posted by Mark D
You own the car for years and never notice it, then you do and realize you have one odd wheel or one side trim different from the other!
Dave S
DMC Midwest - retired but helping
Greenville SC
Location: Quebec, Canada
Posts: 143
My VIN: 06357
6357 does have the later rubber trim too.
Location: Sunfield, Michigan, USA
Posts: 2,444
My VIN: 1798
Interesting that the mounting is exactly the same.
Maybe it's just me, or perhaps it's an optical illusion caused by the rubber filler strip, but the glass on glue filled cars appears closer to the plane of the stainless panels, or nearly 'flush,' while the glass on rubber strip filled cars appears further away from the plane of the stainless, or more recessed.
Anyone else see this, or is it just me?
I'm curious as to whether or not it's possible to install the rubber filler strip on glue filled cars without having to dislodge and remount the glass?
Not a huge thing - just one of the quirks of our cars that has occupied my thoughts lately....
Last edited by NightFlyer; 11-12-2013 at 02:36 PM.
Location: Taylors SC
Posts: 5,326
My VIN: (former)05429
Club(s): (DMWC) (DCUK)
It's caused partially by the rubber filling the gap on an angle. The rubber is triangular in cross-section. Also the glass may be further from the stainless by as much as 1/16" but it would all be made up in the thickness of the adhesive.
The glass would need to be removed. You'd hate yourself for attempting it, especially with the quarter panel in place. It's do-able but messy. Especially if you have one of the cars that does not have the metal support clips (another topic!).
Dave S
DMC Midwest - retired but helping
Greenville SC
Location: Sunfield, Michigan, USA
Posts: 2,444
My VIN: 1798
Thanks for the reply Dave! As there's nothing in the concours manual about this, we'll go with your estimate as being 'official.'
Both of mine on #1798 are glue filled.
Last edited by NightFlyer; 11-12-2013 at 02:48 PM.
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