No more members?

[thirdmanj]

Excuse me, I fail to see where I taunted anyone.
If I did, I apologize. Some people can dish out things and be completely profane and insulting but cry when they feel someone calls them out on it. Isn't that what has happened here? And if that is exactly what has happened and now I am being blamed, isn't that censoring my view?
Seems a little one sided what you said.

Professor Roy Hinkley

And who might that be Roy? Some EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE if you please, sir.

[RoyHinkley]

Roy, I wasn't speaking to you. It was in reference to no one in particular at all. I'm sorry if you felt it was directed your way.

I just want people to not be nasty to people from other forums and vice versa. It's been this whole one forum versus the other forum and it has driven relatively new people from the forum away and frankly I don't want people who are just coming aboard (like you for instance) to not feel welcome because of something that has been drawn out long enough.

Car communities are supposed to be that...communities. But there are so many members holding grudges over things that have happened so long ago, or people antagonizing visitors from other forums as what happened a few weeks ago that upset other members. If some people think it's censorship for asking that people just stop the comments that are obviously bothering others, then I don't know what else to say but "be nice".

When we hear from people with under 15 posts who haven't been on the forum long at all who say there is too much drama, then it's a problem.

I hope that clears that up a little. We are just tired of people feeling like they are being pushed away for being new or for being a member of another forum.

Thank you Mike, I can see you give and deserve respect. I will stop calling J on his antics. He is having his idea of "fun" and I was getting caught up in calling him out on it. As I said, I have been visiting as a guest for a little over a year, but finally decided to put my two cents in. Although it may have been pointed at J, I was just trying to call it as I see it, not trying to insult or hurt anyone. Peace, to EVERYONE, no matter what forum they choose to visit or be a member of. And no matter what they choose to do with their car.
Professor Roy Hinkley

[Tillsy]

and you can't talk about other boards....

Thats not what is going on - there is no thread discussing other boards, but there are threads being derailed into talk vs today arguments all over the darn place.

Click a thread about alternators and you get an argument that today members apparently have a bigger penis.

Click a thread about graining and you get an argument that today members are free to discuss politics.

Click a thread about car covers and you get an argument that newbies show up here and act like someone from there, I call it the way I see it no wait I call it the way I see it more than you, you sound like Tony no you sound like Belinda, I got your back no I got everyone's back, blah blah blah....

Okay above is a bit of an exaggeration simply to demonstrate a point, but for shits sake if I'm just an average Aussie getting sick to death of reading these arguments buried in legitimate conversations there has to be more feeling the same - all Mike asked for was for THAT sort of crap to stop. Seems like a pretty legitimate request I'd expect on ANY forum. Personally I'm disappointed at the LACK of moderation in this regard - all this crap should be split off the normal discussion threads and merged into a dedicated thread in the open forum.

[Jacko]

What the hell are y'all arguing about? I thought we were here to talk about DeLoreans ...

[Michael]

Where does it say you can't talk about other boards? There's a difference between talking about another board and calling out members, taunting, etc...

Again, Michael...

What i'm trying to curb is all of the bashing of other members on other boards. If you prefer to join DMCToday, then by all means, have a good time... no one is stopping you. All i am trying to do is have DeLorean owners act like adults and stop bashing other DeLorean owners, which cause them to stop using the boards because of (and I quote random complaints) "immaturity", "bullying", etc.

If you feel it is better over there, then go right ahead. I'm tired of seeing members from over here complaining that they would rather use the DML of all things because of people bashing other delorean owners between the forums.

If you just want to keep beating a dead horse and say "oh, we're too censored", then that's your opinion. No one is censoring your views.

As a person trying to stop all the bickering between the two forums, I once again request that people stop with the us vs. them threads. If you like one particular forum, then just use it and help other D owners out instead of trying to become part of the group ostracizing delorean owners for their choices.

Again, let them enjoy their forum style, feel free to participate. Just everyone stop with the us vs. them comparisons. Is that too much to honestly ask??

I can understand fully what you are saying...but don't you think the mods or administrators should lead by example? http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?92...807#post137807

Sean posts this jab just this morning...and just so we are clear I have no problem with it. It's funny and I liked it but remember you are the ones who have a problem with us stirring the pot, and there you guys(administrators) go doing exactly what you asked us to stop doing.

[Mike C.]

I can understand fully what you are saying...but don't you think the mods or administrators should lead by example? http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?92...807#post137807

Sean posts this jab just this morning...and just so we are clear I have no problem with it. It's funny and I liked it but remember you are the ones who have a problem with us stirring the pot, and there you guys(administrators) go doing exactly what you asked us to stop doing.

Michael, I understand what you are saying, and to be fair I haven't seen what Sean posted.

One thing alot of people aren't aware of is Sean hasn't been a physical admin of DMCTalk since last year when he was replaced by Chris. As of now, I am the only active admin along with Tamir, with Jeremiah and (just recently added) Ben as moderators. But again, we have to focus on the big picture of those who ARE offended by the comments and want account deactivations, and also those who do take the time to send emails and PMs complaining about the bickering, whether it's because they DO take things personally or literally or they just don't understand the ribbing. The only request we have is everyone just try to stop the stirring of the pot as much.

When "Roy Hinkley" made it known he frequents the other board, is it fair to him to automatically assume he's not an asset to the D community or that he's here to stir the pot because he possibly could be an alias of a banned member? I don't think so. Give the guy a chance... he's only been here a week. That's the point i'm trying to make.
We just want to see things end on a decent note between people before ribbing becomes an accidental insult due to someone taking the internet and typed messages too literally. How many times do we see typed messages turn into fights because people misread or misinterpret the tone of the read message? It sucks, but it happens alot. An example of that can be the Lou and "Boo" incident where messages made him not want to come back.

DMCToday and other DeLorean related sites aren't new, and we just want it to remain a community of people who still appreciate the cars, no matter what forum or mailing list they decide to hang out at. Where does the line get drawn? I definitely don't want to see it get to the point that a DeLorean owner isn't helped when they are in trouble just because of the forum they post on. It's been said by some members of the D community that certain people won't help others due to some blown out personal grudge that happened YEARS ago, and that's just pathetic. If you learn from the DeLorean community, you should be willing to help those out in the community that need help. Maybe at that point hatchets can be buried, the past can be changed (no bttf reference intended), and there won't be a need for all this negativity.

I don't care who you are, but if you're a D owner and I can get you back on the road, i'll help you out, plain and simple. Case in point, i had never met Matt Parker in Atlanta until an open house in 2005. he didn't have any arrangements as for a place to stay so I put him up in a hotel in Fort Lauderdale so he wouldn't be sleeping on the beach while another D owner Steve took all of us out for dinner, JUST BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY.

We are making an effort to stop all the bickering. In my eyes, the D community was MUCH more fun 15 years ago, and i'd like to see it get back to a place like that. If people want to keep living in the past and holding on to these grudges and the negativity, then nothing is ever going to change for the better.

[thirdmanj]

Thank you Mike, I can see you give and deserve respect. I will stop calling J on his antics. He is having his idea of "fun" and I was getting caught up in calling him out on it. As I said, I have been visiting as a guest for a little over a year, but finally decided to put my two cents in. Although it may have been pointed at J, I was just trying to call it as I see it, not trying to insult or hurt anyone. Peace, to EVERYONE, no matter what forum they choose to visit or be a member of. And no matter what they choose to do with their car.
Professor Roy Hinkley

There's nothing to "call out"! Aside from your limited subjective analysis of the situation. That's what "call it as I see it", means. That joke of a thread was effectively dead before you started in outta nowhere with that weird ass post that lead to this nonsense.

[Mike C.]

There's nothing to "call out"! Aside from your limited subjective analysis of the situation. That's what "call it as I see it", means. That joke of a thread was effectively dead before you started in outta nowhere with that weird ass post that lead to this nonsense.

You and Roy just take it to PM.

[NightFlyer]

There's nothing to "call out"!

[Farrar]

Seriously.... stop all of the Us vs. Them posts...

I echo this plea.