DCS 2016 - why not closer to the West Coast this time?

[vps3922]

I think doing something on the West Coast would be cool, particularly if we can get Universal's Backlot rented out for a private party (which they do for private companies pretty regularly). We could have something set up at Courthouse Square, have live music, set up some cars for tech sessions, etc. There's a Hilton right across form Universal, too. Lots of possibilities but logistically for the planners, that could prove to be a problem.

At any rate, I'd just want a good turnout wherever the location may be.

I like the sound of that. They still have some of the props (like the Lion Estates Entry stones, etc.) and it would be just a fitting location. Well, maybe one day.

[topcop66]

Just throwing this out there as a reminder, 2016 will also be the next Eurofest in Belfast, Ireland.
That may split the attendance to each show somewhat, as Eurofest is usually towards the end of May and DCS is early in June.
Granted, it takes a tad more cash to attend the Ireland event in regards to travel.
Having attended the 2011 Euro event, I will be going again, as it was a FANTASTIC experience.
I have attended 2 DCS events thus far, and plan on attending more....even though they seem to leaning slightly more in the BTTF vein!

[Rich W]

Just throwing this out there as a reminder, 2016 will also be the next Eurofest in Belfast, Ireland.
That may split the attendance to each show somewhat, as Eurofest is usually towards the end of May and DCS is early in June.
Granted, it takes a tad more cash to attend the Ireland event in regards to travel.
Having attended the 2011 Euro event, I will be going again, as it was a FANTASTIC experience.
I have attended 2 DCS events thus far, and plan on attending more....even though they seem to leaning slightly more in the BTTF vein!

We had a similar attendance issue for DCS 2006, especially with the Euro crowd, with such a close proximity between the two events (May/June).

Hopefully, this is being taken into account for DCS 2016, since the EuroFest 2016 dates are already "locked in" and the DCS dates are still "open"
based upon the availability of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, for one of the event dates within DCS 2016.

Indy can get pretty hot during the Summer, even though late June through early August would be the ideal time of year for the car show.

[guss23]

Hello, it's the "new guy". I appreciate all of the input. I rarely post on the forum (because I just end up rambling on) but I troll it regularly. The fact of the mater is that DCSs 2016 location is .5 miles from my house. Not to mention that the town and county have given me a grant and are covering all of the facility expenses, which is big. As for the date, I can not make an immediate decision on it. It looks like it will be fathers day weekend again. I heard more complaints than approvals for this weekend but I am trying to rent the Indianapolis motor Speedway for a day and they will not confirm a date until we are 12-16 months out. They did say that traditionally, that weekend was wide open.

As you all can guess, this task is enormous! My goal is to make the event a little more affordable for the average attendee. I am already working on discounts for three local hotels of all different price ranges. I will probably have a restaurant set up inside the kitchen at the fairgrounds and food will be done and paid for restaurant style with only one meal catered. We will have food venders as well. We are going to encourage club caravan arrivals awarding the largest and encourage people to show pride in where they came from with there car. The entertainment will be different but I think it will be enjoyed. Ken and I have discussed in great detail the directions I am going and he is impressed. I am currently working on sponsors. This DCS was the most expensive costing nearly $250,000.00 in all. Unfortionatly, many of my decisions are going to be based on the level of success we have in the next few months with out target financial resources. Things are looking good.

Guys, Ken is an absolute miracle worker. He has put these shows on nearly by himself. I was absolutely floored with the lack of help he has had over the years. Thankfully, the help he has had has been dedicated and loyal. If it wasn't for Mark Levy, Video Bob, and a couple of the Ohio guys the show would be dramatically different. I worked the show heavily this year. Unfortionatly, my wife (owner of the Delorean with the pink engine and wheels) and daughter, I was not able to see them much as there was so much to be done. My partner Rick barely was able to walk away from the IT equipment to eat, let alone enjoy the show(which really sucks because he paid for everything).

I am currently forming a board of directors. We are dividing all aspects of the event and assigning them to a small group of people to make the task easier. I already have some excellent people but can use more. If any of you want to help please contact me to discuss.

As for the location, I am looking at a few locations for 2018. There are a lot of factors.

[NightFlyer]

Hello, it's the "new guy". I appreciate all of the input. I rarely post on the forum (because I just end up rambling on) but I troll it regularly. The fact of the mater is that DCSs 2016 location is .5 miles from my house. Not to mention that the town and county have given me a grant and are covering all of the facility expenses, which is big. As for the date, I can not make an immediate decision on it. It looks like it will be fathers day weekend again. I heard more complaints than approvals for this weekend but I am trying to rent the Indianapolis motor Speedway for a day and they will not confirm a date until we are 12-16 months out. They did say that traditionally, that weekend was wide open.

As you all can guess, this task is enormous! My goal is to make the event a little more affordable for the average attendee. I am already working on discounts for three local hotels of all different price ranges. I will probably have a restaurant set up inside the kitchen at the fairgrounds and food will be done and paid for restaurant style with only one meal catered. We will have food venders as well. We are going to encourage club caravan arrivals awarding the largest and encourage people to show pride in where they came from with there car. The entertainment will be different but I think it will be enjoyed. Ken and I have discussed in great detail the directions I am going and he is impressed. I am currently working on sponsors. This DCS was the most expensive costing nearly $250,000.00 in all. Unfortionatly, many of my decisions are going to be based on the level of success we have in the next few months with out target financial resources. Things are looking good.

Guys, Ken is an absolute miracle worker. He has put these shows on nearly by himself. I was absolutely floored with the lack of help he has had over the years. Thankfully, the help he has had has been dedicated and loyal. If it wasn't for Mark Levy, Video Bob, and a couple of the Ohio guys the show would be dramatically different. I worked the show heavily this year. Unfortionatly, my wife (owner of the Delorean with the pink engine and wheels) and daughter, I was not able to see them much as there was so much to be done. My partner Rick barely was able to walk away from the IT equipment to eat, let alone enjoy the show(which really sucks because he paid for everything).

I am currently forming a board of directors. We are dividing all aspects of the event and assigning them to a small group of people to make the task easier. I already have some excellent people but can use more. If any of you want to help please contact me to discuss.

As for the location, I am looking at a few locations for 2018. There are a lot of factors.

One suggestion if I might:

A lot of the owners who attended the Indy Raceway event last year commented on how lame the actual experience of driving around the track was, because I believe they limit you to something like 35mph for liability purposes. Not sure how much it costs to rent the raceway for a day, but a better (funner) option for owners might be to rent a 1/4 mile dragstrip for the day - not to mention that it would probably be cheaper. Lucas Oil Raceway is in Indianapolis.

Just a thought

[skill]

Hey Josh! It was great meeting you at DCS! And thanks again for all of your help along the way here on the boards.

Yes, I myself was hoping for a show closer to the West Coast but obviously that's not going to happen for 2016. Regardless, I'll most definitely be there for Indy. It's just a question of if my car will be. It'll be about 3600 miles round trip and time will be an issue, not so much the miles. I think doing something on the West Coast would be cool, particularly if we can get Universal's Backlot rented out for a private party (which they do for private companies pretty regularly). We could have something set up at Courthouse Square, have live music, set up some cars for tech sessions, etc. There's a Hilton right across form Universal, too. Lots of possibilities but logistically for the planners, that could prove to be a problem.

At any rate, I'd just want a good turnout wherever the location may be.

Now that's a cool idea there, renting Universal's Backlot, why not? I'm pretty sure you got San Diego's support for that!!!

[topcop66]

Hoping they will be keeping the museum "breakout" room...that is my fave part of DCS shows !
I have spent hours in there looking at/reading the many documents and drawings.

[vps3922]

Hello, it's the "new guy". I appreciate all of the input. I rarely post on the forum (because I just end up rambling on) but I troll it regularly. The fact of the mater is that DCSs 2016 location is .5 miles from my house. Not to mention that the town and county have given me a grant and are covering all of the facility expenses, which is big. As for the date, I can not make an immediate decision on it. It looks like it will be fathers day weekend again. I heard more complaints than approvals for this weekend but I am trying to rent the Indianapolis motor Speedway for a day and they will not confirm a date until we are 12-16 months out. They did say that traditionally, that weekend was wide open.

As you all can guess, this task is enormous! My goal is to make the event a little more affordable for the average attendee. I am already working on discounts for three local hotels of all different price ranges. I will probably have a restaurant set up inside the kitchen at the fairgrounds and food will be done and paid for restaurant style with only one meal catered. We will have food venders as well. We are going to encourage club caravan arrivals awarding the largest and encourage people to show pride in where they came from with there car. The entertainment will be different but I think it will be enjoyed. Ken and I have discussed in great detail the directions I am going and he is impressed. I am currently working on sponsors. This DCS was the most expensive costing nearly $250,000.00 in all. Unfortionatly, many of my decisions are going to be based on the level of success we have in the next few months with out target financial resources. Things are looking good.

Guys, Ken is an absolute miracle worker. He has put these shows on nearly by himself. I was absolutely floored with the lack of help he has had over the years. Thankfully, the help he has had has been dedicated and loyal. If it wasn't for Mark Levy, Video Bob, and a couple of the Ohio guys the show would be dramatically different. I worked the show heavily this year. Unfortionatly, my wife (owner of the Delorean with the pink engine and wheels) and daughter, I was not able to see them much as there was so much to be done. My partner Rick barely was able to walk away from the IT equipment to eat, let alone enjoy the show(which really sucks because he paid for everything).

I am currently forming a board of directors. We are dividing all aspects of the event and assigning them to a small group of people to make the task easier. I already have some excellent people but can use more. If any of you want to help please contact me to discuss.

As for the location, I am looking at a few locations for 2018. There are a lot of factors.

That sounds really awesome and I hope that I will be able to make it 2016. I am not sure how I can help you to take load of your shoulders living in BC Canada, but I am game to help if I can and you wish to outsource a task the Vancouver chapter of PNDC can do.

And DCS 2018 at Universal would be my dream come true, but there are a lot of factors (including costs) to calculate. Let's see where the road will take us! (although, where we're going we don't need roads!)

[kkoncelik]

A show is only as good as the participants so if you have more the show is better because you can do more if its less you need to deal with that.
Totally disagree that DCS Vegas was Lame we had some fun there but what you did notice was a lack of people. To break it down on Saturday only 200 people were there. Thursday 125 and Friday 174. So what I can do food and entertainment is limited to what I bring in. If you support the show then you get more like this time Christopher Lloyd, Harry Waters and Craig Haglin were there. All new guests. On the VEgas numbers over 100 people came from the east coast. Of the west coast people about 50 were vendors like DMCH or Don Steger so that show only attracted 50 people from the west coast. From that more than half attended east coast events so basically I did that show with little support that was supposed to be run by the local group that helped me plan it and then they did not show up. Yes the Local Vegas group did not show up except for 2 or three of them and we had 12 cars there for the planning meeting. They were not there for the show. If you do a show out west 100-200 is going to be good and you will be limited.

DCS Dayton actually had no more BTTF in the events than it has in the past. It was a little more obvious with this years cast but I don't think by the autograph hounds that this was a problem Chris never made it down the cars as no one gave him a chance. People always state this as fact and it has not changed since Pigeon Forge. We did add the BTTF choraliers but to me the play was awesome and over 600 people watched it so I think we did pretty good.

The rest of the show was based on DeLorean as was the Museum. The driving tour had more cars than ever before and we threw in a complete air force museum as well. The cost of this show was huge and there is no way that Jason can keep this up as I cannot either so that is why I chose to go out on top. Appreciate what you have because some day you may not have it.

I have enjoyed doing these shows for all of you over the years but it has taken a toll on my family as I spend so much time with it that I feel I missed out on a few things in life that I hope to make up on.

One individual said the show costs too much. It really has not changed by much since 1998 where it was no entertainment for the most part just the vendors. By Pigeon Forge we were getting factory workers and BTTF. This costs money. This show was in excess of $30K just for transportation of the guests remember we had 18 guests. And hotel and food and and and I have to coordinate it all.

Most of you have been extremely gracious to me and my family over the years and it was that which kept us going. But remember 50% of each show was new attendees and Dayton was no exception. Where are the rest of you. For those of you that always complained believe me you will not be missed by me at all.

I heard criticism of Jason and the Location. DUH what he did what what I have tried to do a number of years ago and he succeeded. The Indy track that is a major score right there. The fairgrounds YEA we will not be crowded like sardines, and downtown Indy around the circle well there is the 6PM news highlight reel. He saw what was liked in DCS, looked to go back to my start in 1998 and have something to build on and guess what. He did very good. He is making the show his own as it needs to be.

I have had a number of critics this show and past shows that can do it better than me or the DOA or Houston but the fact is they are speaking out of their ASS because they could never even get the invites out to something like this and have no idea of costs or whatever. Rich is correct in a number of things he said and he has seen how hectic this show is. Listen to these people and help them. I was told by one person that this show sucked and they can do better and and and. Found out they have never done anything and are always complainers. Figures.

The DOA is best set up to do a show in the West. I would never do one there again because for me I have to haul all the stuff out there. For the one that said it was lame I did not see him or anyone else offering to bring stuff to the show. That show was like Cincinnati. It was a starter and designed to see if it can work. And it actually did better than we hoped but again lack of west coast help and attendance was obvious.

I would start working with the DOA and try to get a show out west either Vegas, LA or San Francisco or Up by Toby but DO IT. As with some of these posts they are full of suggestions and short on action. It will not happen if you do not make it happen.

Support Jason, DMCH, and the DOA. They are do-ers

Talkers don't come to the show because they create their own reasons not to do something and then Bitch that they missed it.

Loved working the shows for all of you
See you at the next show this time as a guest. Whew its over LOL

Ken

and I still sign my posts cowards don't.

[NightFlyer]

Damn right!