View Full Version : General Gold DMC in Reno damaged by arson
dmcjohn
06-24-2014, 11:02 AM
I can't believe what I'm reading... I just saw this car a few weeks ago. Hopefully the damage can be repaired - sounds like it damaged the gold plating on the roof of the car...
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/06/24/arsonist-damages-two-vehicles-in-attack-on-national-automobile-museum/
OverlandMan
06-24-2014, 11:12 AM
I can't believe what I'm reading... I just saw this car a few weeks ago. Hopefully the damage can be repaired - sounds like it damaged the gold plating on the roof of the car...
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/06/24/arsonist-damages-two-vehicles-in-attack-on-national-automobile-museum/
Wow what a shame. Sounds like the damage to the gold D was limited. Thanks for sharing.
Wonder what goes through the mind of a 47 year old arsonist? Maybe this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61XUb28jkUI
PB Co
06-24-2014, 12:43 PM
I remember when shopping for insurance, Hagerty listed the "gold" option.
With only a few chips to the plating I wonder if they will file a claim? Is there a way to even find matching 24K donor gold? The DeLorean Story explains the gold layer had to be thicker than they thought to achieve an even color.
I think they could just get a yellow highlighter and fill in the chipped part. :)
David T
06-24-2014, 01:09 PM
I remember when shopping for insurance, Hagerty listed the "gold" option.
With only a few chips to the plating I wonder if they will file a claim? Is there a way to even find matching 24K donor gold? The DeLorean Story explains the gold layer had to be thicker than they thought to achieve an even color.
When they assembled the last Delorean using the extra gold panels a door was missing. They took another door and had it plated. They were never able to get the plating to exactly match the rest of the car. If they don't do ALL of the panels together at the same time it seems it's impossible to match up. I don't know if they can just "touch up" chips. Can you imagine what it would cost to disassemble the car, replate all of the panels, and then reassemble it? I would wonder if the museum would have enough insurance coverage! And now they need insurance to cover sinkholes!!!!!!!!!!!
PB Co
06-24-2014, 02:00 PM
The article explains the fire suppression system damaged the 'roof' so if it's just the T panel they really lucked out.
Regarding the three gold cars... which one was this, the factory built brown interior or black?
Seven figure deductible, I'm guessing.
DavidProehl
06-24-2014, 02:05 PM
The article explains the fire suppression system damaged the 'roof' so if it's just the T panel they really lucked out.
Regarding the three gold cars... which one was this, the factory built brown interior or black?
Seven figure deductible, I'm guessing.
Reno's car has the brown interior.
PB Co
06-24-2014, 04:55 PM
So the Peterson Museum in LA has the other factory made car, with the last currently in Maryland?
The gold was electroplated onto the stainless. I can't imagine a way to fix the damage that would blend, but then again we have not yet seen a photo.
What a shame. The only factory built DMC-12 with brown interior gets to be nearby during a truly senseless firebombing. At least no one was hurt but what a waste. I have always enjoyed reading about the gold cars and still hope to see one in person someday. I missed it when it was in DC the other weekend.
DavidProehl
06-24-2014, 05:23 PM
Here are some pics of this car I took in January 2013.
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NightFlyer
06-24-2014, 05:32 PM
Here are some pics of this car I took in January 2013.
Those are SWEET - thanks for sharing :thumbup:
pezzonovante88
06-24-2014, 09:56 PM
Oooh man. That's a shame.
Flash66
06-24-2014, 11:01 PM
I own a small outfit to electroplate gold. If it's small chips, a wand with 24k can touch them up to hide the underlying stainless. But if it's chipped I hope it's just in the plating, if it's down into the stainless that's another story. Polishing after will help blend the color. When they electroplated the panels back in the 80's they were dipped in a vat for the process. A small bottle of gold cost me around 500.00 and won't go far. I couldn't imagine what a vat full would be!
DMCVegas
06-24-2014, 11:25 PM
Here's a mug shot of the cock-eyed inbred sonofabitch who did this.
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/82db27e86bb1af46f85dca680da9b9e6caf019b6/c=0-315-800-918&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/Reno/Reno/2014/06/23/1403529088000-gray.jpeg
http://www.rgj.com/story/news/crime/2014/06/21/reno-police-make-arrest-recent-reno-fires/11230025/
It's bad enough to screw with cars, but one of my favorites? I'd show him how a DeLorean really should be treated... I'd strap him down to a trailer and go over every inch of his body with a Wolfhead Wheel. I would finish by hanging a pina colada air freshener around his neck.
thirdmanj
06-24-2014, 11:38 PM
Here's a mug shot of the cock-eyed inbred sonofabitch who did this.
Allegedly.
Furthermore, I feel the need to point out that if he's the product of inbreeding, we can't really hold that against him.
;)
DMCVegas
06-25-2014, 12:01 AM
Allegedly.
Furthermore, I feel the need to point out that if he's the product of inbreeding, we can't really hold that against him.
;)
Fair enough on the inbreeding. I do believe however that another article stated that he already confessed to 2 of 4 fires he was suspected of, including this one.
DMCVegas
06-25-2014, 12:05 AM
Here is the story:
http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/Suspect-In-Custody-264104691.html?
thirdmanj
06-25-2014, 12:42 AM
Fair enough on the inbreeding. I do believe however that another article stated that he already confessed to 2 of 4 fires he was suspected of, including this one.
Confessions don't always work, and can be coerced.
Besides, even with a confession, he still has to be found "guilty" first.
Farrar
06-25-2014, 04:41 PM
Anyone besides me wonder how a sprinkler system can chip gold plate?
DavidProehl
06-25-2014, 05:00 PM
Anyone besides me wonder how a sprinkler system can chip gold plate?
Here is a good video illustrating (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekGazrZ3fls&t=1m36s). There is a small cap that pops off the sprinkler when it is heated (the brass colored piece that goes flying). I'm guessing that is what damaged the car. You could see how with water pressure behind it that it could be shot down rather forcefully.
Rich W
06-25-2014, 05:01 PM
Anyone besides me wonder how a sprinkler system can chip gold plate?
On some pressurized water sprinkler systems, there is a cover
over the sprinkler head that is forced off, under pressure, when
the system is activated. My guess is one or more of these covers
made contact with the top of one or more panels, causing scratches
or even taking off a bit of the gold plating.
Farrar
06-25-2014, 05:07 PM
There is a small cap that pops off the sprinkler when it is heated (the brass colored piece that goes flying). I'm guessing that is what damaged the car.
On some pressurized water sprinkler systems, there is a cover
over the sprinkler head that is forced off, under pressure, when
the system is activated.
Thank you and thank you! I didn't know this -- the only sprinkler systems I've come into contact with simply have exposed sprayer heads. Terribly old-fashioned, I guess. :)
Notifier
06-25-2014, 05:28 PM
Anyone besides me wonder how a sprinkler system can chip gold plate?
I was wondering the same thing, and I'm in the sprinkler industry! First of off, the spray pattern of a sprinkler head is water droplets. It doesn't come out in a sharp stream unless you are trying to protect a specific item. So I would rule out the force of the water causing damage. Now, the water that is in the system is usually pretty nasty. It will come out black if the system hasn't been flushed out in a while. That could stain some surfaces. There could also be additives to the system, antifreeze or corrosion treatment. But they would be flushed out rather quickly.
I was thinking more than likely, the sprinkler head activated and the sudden burst of water knocked down signage or something else from the ceiling that landed on the car. Also,
when a sprinkler head goes off, pieces of the sprinkler head break away and will drop to the ground. It's possible that caused the damage. The newer glass bulb heads it would only be a plug that holds back the water, the older solder link heads would have 5 or so small pieces break away.
In all, the sprinkler system saved the car. Without it, the fire could of spread causing extensive heat and smoke damage to the building and more vehicles.
Flash66
06-25-2014, 09:35 PM
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It's bad enough to screw with cars, but one of my favorites? I'd show him how a DeLorean really should be treated... I'd strap him down to a trailer and go over every inch of his body with a Wolfhead Wheel. I would finish by hanging a pina colada air freshener around his neck.[/QUOTE]
Lmao@this!
David T
06-26-2014, 09:38 AM
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It's bad enough to screw with cars, but one of my favorites? I'd show him how a DeLorean really should be treated... I'd strap him down to a trailer and go over every inch of his body with a Wolfhead Wheel. I would finish by hanging a pina colada air freshener around his neck.
Lmao@this![/QUOTE]
it's turning out that museums can be dangerous places for cars!!!!!!!!! I bet after this museums will not offer insurance on cars that are lent to them, only cars actually owned by the museum itself. A lot of people who have a lot of cars, offer to let some of them sit in a museum for the free storage and insurance.
Lenny
06-26-2014, 12:01 PM
I just made a donation to the Museum. It is a non profit.http://www.automuseumshop.com/donate.asp
I also added a comment:
I am donating this toward the repair of the DeLorean damaged in the arson. I am a DeLorean owner and want to help bring this car back to show room quality.
NightFlyer
06-26-2014, 01:57 PM
I just made a donation to the Museum. It is a non profit.http://www.automuseumshop.com/donate.asp
I also added a comment:
I am donating this toward the repair of the DeLorean damaged in the arson. I am a DeLorean owner and want to help bring this car back to show room quality.
That's very AWESOME of you :thumbup:
OverlandMan
06-26-2014, 04:15 PM
Here are some pics of this car I took in January 2013.
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Did anyone else notice the "LK Sport Coupe" on the signage in David's pictures? Isn't that from the SunStar 1:8 scale model nomenclature?
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Lenny
06-26-2014, 04:15 PM
That's very AWESOME of you :thumbup:
If a bunch of us do that it would show interest in the car and support for DeLoreans.
NightFlyer
06-26-2014, 04:33 PM
Did anyone else notice the "LK Sport Coupe" on the signage in David's pictures? Isn't that from the SunStar 1:18 scale model nomenclature?
28585
I did and wondered the same thing myself
OverlandMan
06-27-2014, 11:05 AM
I did and wondered the same thing myself
Thanks for catching my scaling size mistake... I meant 1:18, not 1:8.
DMCVegas
06-27-2014, 11:31 AM
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It's bad enough to screw with cars, but one of my favorites? I'd show him how a DeLorean really should be treated... I'd strap him down to a trailer and go over every inch of his body with a Wolfhead Wheel. I would finish by hanging a pina colada air freshener around his neck.
Lmao@this!
I really wanted this air freshener, but alas they don't make it anymore:
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web02/2010/7/8/15/damn-nelson-mandela-you-smell-so-good-17011-1278617774-3.jpg
I may now instead opt for this:
https://img0.etsystatic.com/038/0/7814222/il_570xN.581673026_koui.jpg
Though what I really want would be a laser-cut stainless steel Pine Tree air freshener that I could hang... (hint hint to anyone out there!) But for now it's either Cinnaberry, or PiƱa Colada until that happens.
Did anyone else notice the "LK Sport Coupe" on the signage in David's pictures? Isn't that from the SunStar 1:8 scale model nomenclature?
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According to the museum, the car was donated from the original owner in Pasadena California. When the car arrived, the Title actually listed "LK Sport Coupe" as the model type, and not DMC-12. As such because that's what the paperwork said, that's what they left. When Sunstar began researching the car for the model, the Harrah's collection is where they went and that's where they got it from.
Who knows why they did any of this. The first time I got my car titled in Nevada, the model was "DMC-12". When I applied for a new title later on, it said "DT26" because they were confused (not the first time in Nevada) and just used the VIN. I also went from "Silver" to *blank* on the color because they didn't know what to do. Apparently when you write "No Paint-Factory Stainless Steel", this confuses the living hell out of DMV clerks...
Chris 16409
07-16-2014, 03:09 AM
I went to the museum in Reno over the fourth of july weekend and saw the gold DeLorean in their service garage. It was not damaged by the fire. Apparently, their fire sprinklers have a two stage activation. The sprinkler is covered by a metal plate, and when it gets hot enough, the solder holding the plate to the ceiling melts and the plate falls to the floor. The solder is what fell onto the roof of the driver's door. The actual plate missed the car. It didn't get hot enough in the lobby of the museum to actually activate the sprinkler over the car. The workers at the museum believe they can get the solder off the door without damaging the gold finish underneath. Solder is essentially lead and is much softer than gold.
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