Nice 81 Auto just sold

[Silverbullet]

They got $22,000 http://www.ebay.com/itm/DeLorean-DMC12-1981-delorean-august-build-2-nd-owner-well-cared-for-/131222130938?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1e8d72d0fa&item=131222130938&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&autorefresh=true

[sapphirexae]

Nice enough. The two huge detractors for me is :

A) I would never in a million years buy an Auto

B) that absolutely loathsome fender antenna

[skill]

Nice enough. The two huge detractors for me is :

A) I would never in a million years buy an Auto

B) that absolutely loathsome fender antenna

Come on... what did an auto do to you? Hehehe

I agree w/ you though on B), it just don't look right.

[Silverbullet]

Maybe we will get a new member..........:biggrin:

[Jimmyvonviggle]

Nice enough. The two huge detractors for me is :

A) I would never in a million years buy an Auto

B) that absolutely loathsome fender antenna

Never? What happened if you lost the use of your arm. What if you get older and find it too strenuous to shift? I like stick as well, but you never know.

[Dangermouse]

That's excellent news, but only to be expected.

As mine is both a Mighty Auto and has the rare fender antenna, I see that both these features are continuing to command good money in the market.

:tongue::wave2:

[Jonathan]

That's excellent news, but only to be expected.

As mine is both a Mighty Auto and has the rare fender antenna, I see that both these features are continuing to command good money in the market.

:tongue::wave2:

Haha, me too! Glad someone else likes that combination as there were some pretty harsh words for us evil doing auto driving fender antenna types recently ;)

[vps3922]

Haha, me too! Glad someone else likes that combination as there were some pretty harsh words for us evil doing auto driving fender antenna types recently ;)

I thought so, too. I have the same combination and I go one further: black interior. SO get that: black interior, fender antenna and auto. But hey, taste is totally subjective.

Did I want a manual before buying my D? Yes. I consulted this very forum to get opinions on it and also noticed that they are subjective (I do not want to start another auto vs. manual discussion. This entry is already off topic of this thread!). Do I like my auto? Yes, it is perfect on long rides and stop and go.
Do I think I would have more control with the manual? Yes, but I am happy with my car as it is.
Would I like to get rid of the fender antenna? Sure I want to, but I leave it original for now until I find a good solution for the antenna hole that does not involve a ton of money. :cool1:

Those are my :offtopic: 5 cents.

And I think that the buyer of the $22k car got a great deal with a full history on the car. Hope that he will sign up to our forum!

[Michael]

Auto owners are content with their car as is, manual owners tend to be sad that their car isn't more, so the only thing they can think to do is rag on us. Been going on for years here. Think of Manual owners as the fat kid everyone else made fun of in school, the fat kid then points to the geek and says "What about him, he's worse than me"

[OverlandMan]

I thought so, too. I have the same combination and I go one further: black interior. SO get that: black interior, fender antenna and auto. But hey, taste is totally subjective.

Did I want a manual before buying my D? Yes. I consulted this very forum to get opinions on it and also noticed that they are subjective (I do not want to start another auto vs. manual discussion. This entry is already off topic of this thread!). Do I like my auto? Yes, it is perfect on long rides and stop and go.
Do I think I would have more control with the manual? Yes, but I am happy with my car as it is.
Would I like to get rid of the fender antenna? Sure I want to, but I leave it original for now until I find a good solution for the antenna hole that does not involve a ton of money. :cool1:

Those are my :offtopic: 5 cents.

And I think that the buyer of the $22k car got a great deal with a full history on the car. Hope that he will sign up to our forum!

^ this pretty much sums up my thoughts on the manual versus auto saga. Haters gonna hate.

[skill]

Auto owners are content with their car as is, manual owners tend to be sad that their car isn't more, so the only thing they can think to do is rag on us. Been going on for years here. Think of Manual owners as the fat kid everyone else made fun of in school, the fat kid then points to the geek and says "What about him, he's worse than me"

+1 lol

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[sapphirexae]

I think you all are missing my point entirely. I said "I'd never buy an automatic", simple as that. Did I say anything against them? No. Did I say they were inferior? No. Did I say I hated them? No. You are trying to make me sound like I am bashing them and I most certainly did nothing of the sort.


If you actually care to hear my real opinion, here it is: I believe a sports car should be manual. That being said, if someone who doesn't like manual, can't drive a manual or has a condition that renders a manual no longer an option, I say go with an Automatic. If a car being an auto enables more folks to enjoy it, then go for it, that's a wonderful thing! There is my real opinion, but thanks for trying putting words in my mouth and make me sound like a, as you said "hater".


BTW, calling manual owners the "fat kids" isn't exactly being kind yourself (or mature for that matter).


As for my comment about the fender antenna, that I stand by.....it's hideous. And yes, I speak from experience. My first DeLorean had it and I despised it. If you like the look, that's great, be proud of what you have.

[Michael]

If you actually care to hear my real opinion, here it is: I believe a sports car should be manual.

I believe a sports car shouldn't have to worry about having its ass handed to it by a minivan full of kids on their way to an ice cream party. You can go on all you want about how well your manual "connects you to the road..blah blah blah" , but it still doesn't mean you rise to the level of "sports car" status when you can't even out corner a Prius in "eco" mode.

If you manual owners can't handle a little of your own medicine(that you are always so eager to dole out) getting tossed back at you on the Internet I would highly suggest you keep your self righteous opinions to yourself.

[OverlandMan]

I think you all are missing my point entirely. I said "I'd never buy an automatic", simple as that. Did I say anything against them? No. Did I say they were inferior? No. Did I say I hated them? No. You are trying to make me sound like I am bashing them and I most certainly did nothing of the sort.


If you actually care to hear my real opinion, here it is: I believe a sports car should be manual. That being said, if someone who doesn't like manual, can't drive a manual or has a condition that renders a manual no longer an option, I say go with an Automatic. If a car being an auto enables more folks to enjoy it, then go for it, that's a wonderful thing! There is my real opinion, but thanks for trying putting words in my mouth and make me sound like a, as you said "hater".



Dude - my first 4 vehicles were manual shift. My wife currently drives an A5 manual-shift. I prefer manual shift cars BUT when I was DeLorean shopping I came across a deal I wasn't going to turn down on an auto. To ME it wasn't that important. It has nothing to do with your 3 points (1) not liking a manual (2) can't drive a manual (3) handicap. That's absurd.

Where's Michael, he needs to win his 601st internet debate right here.

[Jonathan]

Yea! I forgot about my black interior too! That's 3 strikes so I guess that's it!

You're right about going on for years Michael... and not just on DMCs. A friend on FB that really is not much of a car person asked her friends whether they liked auto or manual. It got comment after comment about it has to be manual for some of the most irrelevant reasons. Skip the logic... you gotta feel the road yo!!

I feel like asking the "feel the road" and "in control" justification people how well they like their cruise control feature? That would kind of defeat the purpose though wouldn't you think... being in control and all? Nevermind ;)

EDIT: didn't realize there was already a page 2!!


I think you all are missing my point entirely. I said "I'd never buy an automatic", simple as that. Did I say anything against them? No. Did I say they were inferior? No. Did I say I hated them? No. You are trying to make me sound like I am bashing them and I most certainly did nothing of the sort.

Ummmmmmmmm...???

Actually, you said "huge detractor" and "not in a million years." That's just a wee bit of an exaggeration for dramatic effect don't you think? Not really just a simple opinion to me anyway.

C'mon though man, you know that the auto D's pick up like a million more chicks than the manuals do! Sheesh.

[sapphirexae]

Obviously you guys want to make it seem like I'm Auto bashing when I wasn't. If you wish to (for whatever reason) proceed with that, go for it. If you need to turn a simple, un-negative comment into fodder for an argument, go for it. I fail to see why my preference (and thats all it is) for a manual is cause for nasty comments and a mini war. This is so funny and ridiculous. Some of you prefer Auto, some prefer manual and I keep saying thats just fine and yet you keep turning it into a negative. No clue as to why you want to bring such hostility over a simple preference of a stupid transmission. Let it go, its stupid and there is no right answer, it is preference......plain n' simple.

I also own a BMW X5, plenty of owners think that it should be a 6-Speed manual (which they did offer) to bring out more of the "BMW nature". I choose an automatic as I thought it better suited that car and an auto was my preference for my daily driver. I made the same choice that you DeLorean Auto owners made and yet you're bashing me for not wanting an auto DeLorean when I made the same exact choice with another one of my vehicles. You are trying to turn a very simple comment of preference into something sinister for reasons that I cannot understand.

And as for you Michael,
keep your self righteous opinions to yourself.. I whole heartedly agree but I think you should be looking at yourself. If you bothered to read ANY of my comments all the way through without assumptions, I challenge you to give me one quote where I bashed automatics and or their owners. Come on, just one quote. I said I prefer a manual in this car and that is all I said. You are taking a transmission related comment and blasting me for years of people who were being negative and nasty towards auto owners. Again, read my comments and quote me where I actually put down anything related to an automatic and/or their owners. You can't because I didn't. Apology accepted, my auto owning (which is absolutely fine by me) friend.

[Michael]

I wouldn't go on a date with her in a million years, the huge detractor is her looks.

Don't take that negatively.... she is still nice.

[sapphirexae]

Still nothing negative said about the Auto there dude.

I said "I wouldn't buy one in a million years". I didn't put it down, I simply said I wouldn't buy one. By your own logic, if you don't want to own everything that I own, you are putting me down. Thats plain ol' goofy. Just because I don't want to own something does not mean I'm slandering it. It means that it is simply not for me.

Again, you are taking my simple opinion comment and retaliating based on years of others being nasty and posting uncalled for comments about automatics. I said nothing of the sort.

[OverlandMan]

Still nothing negative said about the Auto there dude.

I said "I wouldn't buy one in a million years". I didn't put it down, I simply said I wouldn't buy one. By your own logic, if you don't want to own everything that I own, you are putting me down. Thats plain ol' goofy. Just because I don't want to own something does not mean I'm slandering it. It means that it is simply not for me.

Again, you are taking my simple opinion comment and retaliating based on years of others being nasty and posting uncalled for comments about automatics. I said nothing of the sort.

That's like saying, "I wouldn't buy a cheeseburger in a million years", while maintaining that you aren't saying anything negative about cheeseburgers. If that was the case, then why say the original statement in the first place. There had to have been something important enough TO YOU for you to post this statement. The average person is going to interpret that as some form of negativity.

[Silverbullet]

WOW.....

Auto VS Manual...... I like both.... The same thing happens on the Corvette forum... I have 2 Corvettes, one of each... a 4 speed 1972, and a 6 speed Auto C6, that has over 400 Hp. Both cars are different. The words "Sports Car" takes on a different meaning with a Delorean VS Corvette...
Don't get me wrong, I love driving the Delorean, (Mine is a Stick), Stage 1, but the 130 HP VS 400 is such a difference. My Auto C6 Vette is my 1st choice when I have to drive in Traffic... FYI our "Traffic" can be 45 min to go 5 miles... I did it once in my 1972 Vette (they do not have hydraulic assist), and my leg was quivering, move up 10 feet, stop move up 10 feet, stop, for 45 minutes... Now I take the Auto.

Craig

[NightFlyer]

As for my comment about the fender antenna, that I stand by.....it's hideous. And yes, I speak from experience. My first DeLorean had it and I despised it.

Oh man - did the shit just hit the fan, or what?

WAR ON!!!!

Fender mounted antennas are quite simply da BEST, and everyone who doesn't have their head stuck up their ass knows this to be true.

Reasons why they're the best - dependability, reliability, superior reception, no drain on the electrical system, weight reduction, the black color is better suited to the rest of the car than that chrome clad monstrosity that protrudes from the rear passenger side pontoon, looks right/natural as opposed to a rod sticking out of the car's ass, etc.

As to which fender mounted design used was the best, well, that's a toss up, as while the manually retractable is nice for shows, it requires effort to extend and collapse, can be finicky in its operation, and isn't as robust/durable as the flexible whiplash, while the flexible whiplash can interfere with the opening/closing of the passenger side door, requiring you to manually move it out of the way.

The windshield mounted antenna is nice if you don't enjoy listening to the radio. It's especially inadequate on long trips where you constantly find yourself entering and leaving local reception zones or you find yourself on stretches of road where there's not much to pull in - of course, in most cases, to experience what I'm talking about would require that you actually drive your car further than a 20 mile radius around your home, but that's a whole other war.

Case closed - BOOM, I win :cool1:

[vps3922]

Wow! That thread is getting well out of hand, probably because of my comment. I did not intend offend anybody or interpret anything. And overall, it is totally off topic and started the auto<>manual discussion I did not wanted to have here, because it was covered in many other threads.

So, guys, be good to each other and lets have a virtual group hug. We all love our cars (and also hate at the same time sometimes) and when it comes to outfitting choices it totally comes to subjective viewpoints, or in my case, avaiulability and a great deal.

Hope that I was able to nicely sum it up and de-escalate this thread a bit. And I want to drink a beer with all of you involved in the heated discussion should I meet you at DCS or any other event or occasion. :wave2:

[Michael]

Well to he quite honest I was looking for a manual but found a great deal on mine and had to buy it. When it comes it a grand touring car (and that's what this is, not a sports car), transmission is just not that big of a deal. I have actually have grown to love it as all I do is weekend cruise with it...and its just so much damn fun driving a Delorean I sometimes forget how crappy my little slow auto is....Although I will soon take it to the track and maybe make more than a few manual owners jealous.

I never really cared what other owners think, nor they should me. If any of us cared about opinions none of us would be driving a Delorean in the first place. We bought these cars because that's what we wanted, and anyone elses' opinion weighs on us like water on a ducks' back. The same can be...or should be said for transmission preference.

edit....or antenna preferance...lol nightflyer wins, I need to drill my fender out and ditch my power antenna....even though my power antenna is black.

[alexwolf1216]

The obvious answer here is that we all just need two.....one auto, one manual. :blahblah:

[Michael]

The obvious answer here is that we all just need two.....one auto, one manual. :blahblah:

I wouldn't buy a manual is a million years.

[Jonathan]

Hope that I was able to nicely sum it up and de-escalate this thread a bit. And I want to drink a beer with all of you involved in the heated discussion should I meet you at DCS or any other event or occasion. :wave2:

Haha, right on Volker!! Hugs and beers, giddy up!

But it has to be light beer. Not in a million years would I drink regular beer. Has to be light beer..... BECAUSE IT TASTES GREAT!!!! :) j/k

[vps3922]

The obvious answer here is that we all just need two.....one auto, one manual. :blahblah:

I would not know how but my wife would manage to beat me with a second Delorean over the head if I would pull that stunt. :slap:

But that is another can of worms.

[NightFlyer]

In stock form, there isn't much difference performance wise between a DeLorean auto vs manual gear box - that's an objective fact.

The reasons why I personally prefer my manual to an auto are 1) the over-driven 5th gear allows for substantially better fuel economy, especially on long trips; 2) no reliance upon electronics that are known to be wonky (ie the shift controller); 3) simpler maintenance in that you only have to worry about one type of fluid instead of two, not to mention that rebuilding a manual is usually much simpler/easier of a job than rebuilding an auto; 4) no torque converter, no ATF pan, and not having to worry about an ATF cooler all add up to increased room for accessibility to other components on the car; 5) it's better suited to how I use my car, as a grand touring highway cruiser; and 6) as my DD is an auto, it provides me with variety, which I enjoy, which is why I own many very different kinds of cars.

Autos definitely have their advantages, especially if you live in a place where you're constantly experiencing stop-and-go traffic.

Performance wise on a stock car though, it really doesn't make all that much of a difference.

[Dangermouse]

I wouldn't buy a manual is a million years.

I bought one to fix the auto. It's about 400 pages long :wave2:

[NightFlyer]

Haha, right on Volker!! Hugs and beers, giddy up!

But it has to be light beer. Not in a million years would I drink regular beer. Has to be light beer..... BECAUSE IT TASTES GREAT!!!! :) j/k

Everyone knows that the only reason to drink light beer is BECAUSE IT'S LESS FILLING!

:p

I just wanted to get on the party :partyhat:

You guys are all cool by me, as long as you all agree that I won the antenna debate :wink:

[Jonathan]

Everyone knows that the only reason to drink light beer is BECAUSE IT'S LESS FILLING!

Hahaha!! You know it!!!!!

[sapphirexae]

OK, Michael admitted he was looking for a manual. I'm satisfied! lol

As for the antenna, I agree that the fender probably has the best functionality (we've had five DeLoreans and have owned all of the different antenna versions offered) but that was never my reason for disliking it. I just find that it hurts the general look / lines of the car (again just MY opinion, so don't go too nuts). I myself don't listen to the ol' AM/FM in this car. I use MP3 or even CDs (yeah, old fashioned). So performance isn't a biggie. When we had the new sound system installed, the antenna was upgraded and hidden away. It works great but is totally pout of view. We just had the windshield replaced and opted for a non-antenna version even though thats what the car originally had. If you're not gonna use it, might as well make it look a bit cleaner right?

[sdg3205]

.... I love lamp.

[jawn101]

SOOoooooo... back to the car. This owner is in my town and seems like a really great guy. Sorry to see him leave the family but glad he got his asking price. Congrats, Sean!

[vps3922]

SOOoooooo... back to the car. This owner is in my town and seems like a really great guy. Sorry to see him leave the family but glad he got his asking price. Congrats, Sean!

Yes, very sad to see him leave. Hope he will come back one day in the future. Good thing is that he will loose all the bad memories with his D over time and preserve the good ones. They are all coming back! Har-har!:yesss:

Do we know anything of the new owner? Did Sean tell him about this awesome forum? I will keep my eye on the introduction thread.

[Timebender]

Not to bring up the whole antenna thing, but actually, the new roof, dorsal fin looking antennae not only look best but are superior for reception with FM and satellite. I'd say mount one to the top of your louvers and you're all set if you're not owning a concours car.

:)

[Timebender]

WOW.....

Auto VS Manual...... I like both.... The same thing happens on the Corvette forum... I have 2 Corvettes, one of each... a 4 speed 1972, and a 6 speed Auto C6, that has over 400 Hp. Both cars are different. The words "Sports Car" takes on a different meaning with a Delorean VS Corvette...


But if you could have a DeLorean with a Corvette engine - say a mid-70's c350, you'd be a pretty happy camper and have a very nice sports car...2870028701 though I plan on losing the spoiler if I get it.

[Rich_NYS]

I believe a sports car shouldn't have to worry about having its ass handed to it by a minivan full of kids on their way to an ice cream party. You can go on all you want about how well your manual "connects you to the road..blah blah blah" , but it still doesn't mean you rise to the level of "sports car" status when you can't even out corner a Prius in "eco" mode.


When I found my car, it was a good deal not to pass up, but I didn't (and still don't) want an auto. My dad asked why I'm so hopped-up to have a manual-shift and I mentioned I didn't understand why anyone would make a "sports car" with an auto-transmission. My dad answered: "I don't know why anyone would make a sports car with only a 130HP engine....lol!





Where's Michael, he needs to win his 601st internet debate right here.


I wouldn't go on a date with her in a million years, the huge detractor is her looks.

Don't take that negatively.... she is still nice.

601

[Timebender]

Regarding sports cars and their transmissions, my 2013 Turbo Beetle with automatic (okay, I have paddle shifters and can switch to manual) and the Audi TT are sports cars, yet if I never touch the paddles or move the shifter into manual mode, it's an automatic.

[skill]

When I found my car, it was a good deal not to pass up, but I didn't (and still don't) want an auto. My dad asked why I'm so hopped-up to have a manual-shift and I mentioned I didn't understand why anyone would make a "sports car" with an auto-transmission. My dad answered: "I don't know why anyone would make a sports car with only a 130HP engine....lol!







601

Rofl!

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[SIMid]

When I found my car, it was a good deal not to pass up, but I didn't (and still don't) want an auto. My dad asked why I'm so hopped-up to have a manual-shift and I mentioned I didn't understand why anyone would make a "sports car" with an auto-transmission. My dad answered: "I don't know why anyone would make a sports car with only a 130HP engine....lol!
601

:hippo:

HAHAHA!! Winning comment of the day!

[Dangermouse]

Because 1980