VIN 1171 wrecked. For sale on EBay.

[Chris Burns]

Awhile back one of forum members went to check out this car before it was sold and then wrecked.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DeLorean-Delorean-/172040378640?roken=cUgayN

[sdg3205]

That was me. Search the vin if you want some pre crash pics.

[Jonathan]

Wow. It doesn't take much, eh?

Did this car stay in Canada, Dave? Says it is located in BC still. When did it get smushed?

"Driveable condition" might be a wee bit of a stretch. Unless by driveable condition the seller means will move under it's own power so you can load it onto a trailer and tow it out of here?

And the bend in frame is an easy fix? Oh, ok.

At least the engine runs very well. Of course, not anything related to the A/C compressor or belt and those bent every which way pulleys. I think maybe the lower engine cover latch cable is helping to hold up the muffler though. That's comforting.

So, $15,000 buy it now price. Do you guys think that is reasonable? As a parts car I'm not sure the individual items could be sold to get that. Close maybe but not way over. If you bought this for $15k and put $15k into it thinking it could be a $30k car again, what would you be able to fix for $15k? The entire rear left quarter (and it's glass), rear glass, engine work, muffler work and then of course that little issue about the frame, that seems to be more than $15k of work right there. Oh, and if you could get that frame repaired while the car is still sitting on it (not sure, but likely the body needs to come off) how about the damage to the fiberglass right at that rear left glass and the body bolt that ripped right out of the fiberglass where the frame got bent?

That's a big project for a car that looks very nice from a few different angles as well as the interior shots.

[sdg3205]

That's 15k usd, so like 20k cad for a rebuild title? Ludicrous.

Yes it's apparently in Cloverdale, which is 5 minutes from me.

[88KPH]

IMO, its a parts car, but not at that price. Simply not enough in it for all the time/effort/storage involved. Or a non financial labour of love to restore.

[sdg3205]

Oh yeah someone is dreaming.

[DMCVegas]

IMO, its a parts car, but not at that price. Simply not enough in it for all the time/effort/storage involved. Or a non financial labour of love to restore.

Parts car? Why? Something like this is quite repairable. Moreso if you considered going the route of an off-chassis restoration with one of the new lightweight underbodies that DMCH sells for the EV car and coupled it with a new engine, or outright swap.

Granted the price is WAY too high, but it's still a very salvageable car.

[88KPH]

Parts car? Why? Something like this is quite repairable. Moreso if you considered going the route of an off-chassis restoration with one of the new lightweight underbodies that DMCH sells for the EV car and coupled it with a new engine, or outright swap.

Granted the price is WAY too high, but it's still a very salvageable car.

I hear you Rob, and of-course it is saveable. But only as a total labour of love, with no thought of cost/time, ie it was your first Delorean or your late Dad owned it, etc etc.
The reason being if financial considerations are considered, this car has to be bought for US$5000. If you were to buy this car for 5K it would be much easier/quicker/simpler to strip the good parts and make the same money.
Cars like this are in a Catch22 situation.

[sdg3205]

I have contacted the seller and will re visit the car if it's still for sale when I'm back in town in early 2016.

[Rich_NYS]

Parts car? Why? Something like this is quite repairable. Moreso if you considered going the route of an off-chassis restoration with one of the new lightweight underbodies that DMCH sells for the EV car and coupled it with a new engine, or outright swap.

Granted the price is WAY too high, but it's still a very salvageable car.


+1

Based on the pics, this car looks to have a lot more going for it than just being a pile o' parts. The right person could buy this car and come out ahead financially.

If I had a large garage, more available time, and it wasn't a gazillion miles away, I'd make an offer for around half of the asking price.




I hear you Rob, and of-course it is saveable. But only as a total labour of love.

+1 on the labour of love, but aren't most of ours?

[sdg3205]

It did need quite a bit of TLC when I saw it in 2014. The shop didn't know how to tune k-jet, most of the electrics didn't work, the seats are actually recovered, not original. But yes at the right price this has potential.

[David T]

It did need quite a bit of TLC when I saw it in 2014. The shop didn't know how to tune k-jet, most of the electrics didn't work, the seats are actually recovered, not original. But yes at the right price this has potential.

Mechanically the car can be fixed, anything can be fixed, but in many States in the US, having a salvage Title is deadly and can't be fixed (or can't be fixed easily). In such a case you can only buy the car as a parts car for the price of a parts car. If you can fix it up and fix the Title that's a bonus but you have to start the project figuring all you have is a parts car. Another thing to remember with a parts car is you won't sell every part. A lot of the car will have to be disposed of and that has a cost (besides the labor to take it apart to sell the parts you can sell).

[Rich_NYS]

Mechanically the car can be fixed, anything can be fixed, but in many States in the US, having a salvage Title is deadly and can't be fixed (or can't be fixed easily). In such a case you can only buy the car as a parts car for the price of a parts car. If you can fix it up and fix the Title that's a bonus but you have to start the project figuring all you have is a parts car. Another thing to remember with a parts car is you won't sell every part. A lot of the car will have to be disposed of and that has a cost (besides the labor to take it apart to sell the parts you can sell).

I know this is a silly question to ask, but I'll ask anyway (because I'm really not familiar with it.)

What is a "salvage title" and what is the criteria? The listing reads: "rebuildable title," is that the same thing? Also, why is a salvage title an issue.....can it not be registered? And what is the benefit of salvage title (i.e. why would someone get one vs. a regular title?)

Thanks.

[88KPH]

I don't know how it works in the US but in the UK, a car like this would be written off by the insurance company. Meaning the insurance company would pay you the agreed amount & the car would then belong to the insurance company.
There are different classes of the write off. IIRC, From A to E.
Cat A means the car has to be totally destroyed, only an official scrap-yard can crush and recycle the materials.
IMO, in the UK, this car would be classed as Category B. Meaning the insurance company can sell the car to a Breakers-yard or back to the original owner (usually at 5-10% of the insured value). The car can be stripped of useable parts but the chassis cannot be used and the VIN# can never be used to register a vehicle again.
Is this the same as the US system?

[davidc89]

A vehicle is issued a salvage title when the extent of the damage is 70-80% of the value of the car. So if the value of the value of the car was $10,000 and it cost $8,000 to fix it, they would total the car and issue a salvage title. I think that's how it works. Then once the vehicle is deemed salvaged, its almost impossible to get a clean title again. They do issue "parts only" titles if it is really bad.

Having a salvage title isn't that devastating really. If you think about it a car could be smashed up pretty bad and still have a clean title, because it wasn't smashed up enough or someone didn't report it.

I think it varies by state, but I think that's how I remember it.

[sdg3205]

It's the same in Canada, where this car is located.

[DMCVegas]

I know this is a silly question to ask, but I'll ask anyway (because I'm really not familiar with it.)

What is a "salvage title" and what is the criteria? The listing reads: "rebuildable title," is that the same thing? Also, why is a salvage title an issue.....can it not be registered? And what is the benefit of salvage title (i.e. why would someone get one vs. a regular title?)

Thanks.

Salvage, or "Rebuildable" titles can be registered with no problem.

Others have covered how a vehicle can be reduced to salvage based upon financial aspects, but you have to understand that is (usually) only in relation to the vehicle's current value.

Example. You have a vehicle and get into a moderate collision with the front of the it. You have a cracked condenser coil up front that now has to be replaced for the A/C to work. On top of that you also require a new bumper, grille, and a wheel alignment in addition to paint and an A/C recharge. So let's now say that results in about $3,800 repair bill. Your vehicle is about 2 years old and has a value of about $18,000, so your insurance company repairs it and you're on your way.

Now then, let's change the scenario. Let's say that the same exact accident happens to the same exact vehicle, and costs the same exact amount. We can even pretend that it's been stored in a garage, never driven, and even has the exact same milage and no wear and tear. But now your vehicle is say 10 years old, and has a value of about only $4,000. Despite being just as rebuildable and safe, the vehicle will be written off, or "totaled" because of the high percentage of the vehicle's value which the repair bill consumes.

So when a vehicle is "totaled", it isn't necessarily indicative of catastrophic damage where safety has been compromised. Cars are indeed meant to be sacrificial, yes. Even more so when you have a monocoque design with integrated energy absorbing zones that deform upon impact and cannot ever be repaired or replaced. But with cab and chassis vehicles (like trucks or even the DMC-12) the chassis and cab/underbody can be separated and repaired individually.

The stigma with a salvage title though comes from the fact that you don't know exactly *what* happened to the vehicle before. It might be a physical collision, or it may even been a flood recovery vehicle. It may be as drastic as a cut and shut, or it might be a small fender bender. Because of many shady people that misrepresented salvage vehicles in the past, there is quite a bit of liability involved in buying and selling vehicles that have a salvage title from a legal liability stance. Worse is that you have states such as my home state of Nevada that are extremely strict about welcoming in out of state vehicles. Normal titles have to go through a simple VIN inspection to ensure they're not stolen. But Salvage titles? Those not only have to go through a complete vehicle inspection by an authorized mechanic, they must include a completely chain of custody of the prior owners.

So when a vehicle with a salvage title crosses the auction block, most commercial buyers are going to turn it down. Too much liability and paperwork nightmares to resell it. Especially if it's a nationwide chain, or an out-of-state bidder. So that's why they get so severely devalued and left to the Buy Here, Pay Here independent used car lots.

Now when dealing with a private buyer, especially with a collectable vehicle, you'll still have that salvage title. But if say you have an entire portfolio of the restoration process, and a highly enough desirable vehicle, a salvage title may not matter to the buyer. It just depends. I mean, if I was buying a classic car, and the owner had complete photographic documentation/proof of an off-chassis restoration, a salvage title wouldn't matter to me. But then when I go to resell the vehicle, who knows about the next person...

Non-Rebuildable titles? That's an entirely different story. Here is the legal definition according to Nevada:

Non-Repairable Vehicle (NRS 487.760) means a motor vehicle, other than an abandoned vehicle, that:
1. Has value only as a source of parts or scrap metal;
2. Has been designated by its owner for dismantling as a source of parts or scrap
metal;
3. Has been stripped of all body panels, doors, hatches, substantially all interior
components and substantially all grill and light assemblies; or
4. Has been burned, destroyed or otherwise damaged to such an extent that it cannot be returned to a condition which is legal for operation on the highways of
this state.

Needless to say, this is the kind of vehicle you don't want. Many times after an accident, or after being abandoned, vehicles can end up at the junkyard. Some of them, especially the abandoned ones, are mostly complete and at least valuable to someone. That's when you see "Mechanic's Specials" sitting on the front line to greet you. Some may have salvage titles, some maybe not, but they're for sale with only minimal to moderate work needed. Or they may be complicated as all hell, and best left to a specialist who knows what they're doing. Those are Salvage. Once they go inside for dismantling? Those are Non-Rebuildable. Good for only limited parts, scrap metal, and carbon credits.

[Rich_NYS]

Thanks for the replies....a lot of good info here. I hadn't realized there was so much involved with titles.

[DMCVegas]

Thanks for the replies....a lot of good info here. I hadn't realized there was so much involved with titles.

There is a ton involved with titles, and it has to be that way to try and prevent the many, many ways to commit fraud. Which in turn affects resale value because of both the risks involved, as well as the amount of paperwork in getting vehicles transferred between states.

Oh, and never trust CarFax. (http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/couple-denied-trade-because-carfax-revealed-total-loss-1696090091)

[Rich_NYS]

In ~30 years of driving I've only dealt with titles that do or don't have a lein. I learned something new today! :rock_on:

I also saw Star Wars in 3D BTX again because my neighbor hadn't seen it.

[DMCVegas]

Yeah, it gets real fun. Especially when you start dealing with assigned VINs that void out the factory-assigned ones which can happen with rebuilt vehicles. Kinda rare, but it does happen.

Still haven't seen Star Wars yet. I've got to see that, the new Hunger Games, and Quentin Tarantino's The Hateful 8 in Ultra Panavision 70. That one I'm really looking forward to. I'm a huge Tarantino fan as well as Ennio Morricone, and I'd really love to see what it's supposed to look like.

[16949]

It helps (insurance coverages and (if necessary) financing) if you get an appraisal done on the salvage title vehicle ahead of purchase. Easy process.

[Dangermouse]

I don't know how it works in the US but in the UK, a car like this would be written off by the insurance company. Meaning the insurance company would pay you the agreed amount & the car would then belong to the insurance company.
There are different classes of the write off. IIRC, From A to E.
Cat A means the car has to be totally destroyed, only an official scrap-yard can crush and recycle the materials.
IMO, in the UK, this car would be classed as Category B. Meaning the insurance company can sell the car to a Breakers-yard or back to the original owner (usually at 5-10% of the insured value). The car can be stripped of useable parts but the chassis cannot be used and the VIN# can never be used to register a vehicle again.
Is this the same as the US system?

Would a car with a Salvage title be imported into the UK? Would it then get a "clean" UK title?

I know I have read a couple of forums members here, in the past, claiming the ability to 'scrub" a salvage/flood title and present the car with a clean title, but I would imagine that is limited to those "in the trade" in certain states


and re:1171 poor guy on drove 18 miles since Dave posted about it one here (based on the 3880 miles listed in the ebay ad, possibly less as the odometer looks like it says 3873)

[sdg3205]

This is the picture that really tells you what you could be in for.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/28/739a573b7ce9baf5948aec0aa1ebdcbd.jpg

That's a whole can of worms.

Sadly, those were textured pontoons.

[88KPH]

That is why I said Cat-B write-off/parts car. On the bright side, its a-hella-lot of stainless rings!

As to clean title if exported? I 'think' it maybe possible. Although I've only imported cars needing light resto's.
I do wonder if customs would question/query/mark a car being imported in this condition.
Even if it does get past customs un-questioned, once the car has been restored & passed road-worthiness test in the UK, the original registration documents have to sent to DVLA (Vehicle licencing). Again a salvage title may be picked up at this stage.
IMO, all a gamble, and only worth doing if you were buying at the right price...... ie, not this price!! :wink:

[DMCVegas]

Salvage titles *can* be washed, but it's getting harder and harder to do, and is pointless in most cases. That's why you now sometimes see title chain requests for titles when moving vehicles between states. It used to be really simple as not all states used the same codes to denote salvage. That's why in Nevada for example, regular titles are tinted blue, and salvage ones are orange with a large print at the top that says "Salvage", as well as many states share automotive databases.

Even then, that's only the title. The records of accidents and past title issues can still follow the vehicle around via it's VIN. So "washing" it may net you a clean title, but not a history that follows the car around. Which is why like in Nevada and Florida, Salvage vehicles cannot be registered. If you repair them and get them back into proper working order, you can apply to have them titled as "rebuilt" (though in Nevada you have to first get approval BEFORE beginning any work). Once done you'll get back a regular blue title that indicates the vehicle is safe to be registered, but will always have the words "SALVAGE" or "REBUILT" branded on it permanently. Florida goes the extra step of having a label permanently applied to the vehicle's door jam in a conspicuous location.

Another reason as well is because the changing of titles can occur accidentally (or on purpose). It's happened with kit cars where you have a Fiero with a Ferrari body kit. Wash the title, and the VIN can remain the same, but the Make and Model can be changed to now say it's a Ferrari. Even happened with my DeLorean. Someone screwed up at the DMV when I needed a replacement title for my car, and changed the Make from "Delorean" to "DELO", and the Model from "DMC-12" to "DT26". Called up the DMV when I got the new title, and they said there wasn't anything they could do about it. Interestingly enough, the gold AmEx DeLorean in Reno has LK Couple listed as it's model number for some reason...

I don't know about other countries, but most don't seem to care. It's why you'll see triple towing of vehicles leaving Manheim Auction from Houston en route to Mexico, or old Fords and Dodges/Rams ending up in Syria or other parts of the Middle East on the news. They just ship them out of here to avoid the headache.

In any case, yes, this vehicle is NOT worth it's asking price. But still, it can be fixed. Check the chassis and rear frame, and get them straightened out, and replace what you need to. Then go back to fiberglassing the rear pontoon back into place. Textured pontoons can be a pain, but not impossible to repair. I believe Rob Grady has some experience in this to say the least.

Then reinforce the areas for the torsion bars and struts, repair the louvers, replace the glass sections and fascia, and just get the rear quarter straightened out and you're good. I'd probably cap out at a max of $9K on this one, unless it's got either some awesome providence, or great collection of collectables to go along with it. And that's just based off of current DeLorean prices.

The day I can sell a non-running DMC-12 for $20,000 is the day I'll consider this one for $14K.

[88KPH]

The day I can sell a non-running DMC-12 for $20,000.

BHCC seem to sell them for that every month don't they?

[sdg3205]

They seem to ask $15-18 for running albeit rough cars.

$21k CAD for this crash victim is like a kick in the nuts and a spit in the face.

[Gfrank]

Very fixable, and a great project id love for myself. If it was 14k Canadian he would have my attention, but with the silly exchange right now be into around 25k just to get it paid for and in my drive way

[louielouie2000]

This is the picture that really tells you what you could be in for.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/28/739a573b7ce9baf5948aec0aa1ebdcbd.jpg

That's a whole can of worms.

Sadly, those were textured pontoons.

When I was hit by a drunk driver in my first DeLorean, my car had those exact same splits in the pontoons. Except those didn't tell the full extent of the damage- there were even bigger splits running all along the underside of the underbody. The impact deformed the underbody of my car enough so the doors would not open, and my frame was tweaked as well. The impact also caused a ripple effect of damaging my rear suspension, motor mounts, etc. I can almost guarantee y'all that this car's underbody damage is similarly extensive; the fact that the underbody was deformed enough to shatter the rear windshield is very telling. Any car can be rebuilt regardless of damage, however, I can almost guarantee it would not be economically sound to do so with this one.

[sdg3205]

Someone did in fact buy this car before the auction ended. Bets on whether we will be seeing a new member with lots of questions?!

[Rich_NYS]

Someone did in fact buy this car before the auction ended.

Congrats Dave, post pics of your progress man!

[sdg3205]

Congrats Dave, post pics of your progress man!

Hah, not me!

[Rich_NYS]

:biggrin:

[Dangermouse]

I'll put money on it going overseas.

[davidc89]

I'm also convinced Dave bought it...

[sdg3205]

You guys are nuts! I'm not even in BC right now. I'm in Toronto for the holidays.

[davidc89]

The first step is denial Dave...

[Ras12]

Maybe we will see it for sale by BHCC for $25,000!:hysterical:

[sdg3205]

The first step is denial Dave...

This made me laugh pretty hard. Also reminded me of that computer from 2001 space Odessy "I can't do that Dave."

[davidc89]

This made me laugh pretty hard. Also reminded me of that computer from 2001 space Odessy "I can't do that Dave."

Winning!

[eagle-co94]

I looked at this car to potentially fix as I'm currently sitting on a good 5 speed rolling chassis/body tub combo but the price is rather high for what you're getting I think. Even the inflated auction prices I've paid in the past weren't anywhere near $15k. If anyone knows who bought this car let them know that I've got the two biggest parts they need to get it fixed.

[Simon5484]

I looked at this car to potentially fix as I'm currently sitting on a good 5 speed rolling chassis/body tub combo but the price is rather high for what you're getting I think. Even the inflated auction prices I've paid in the past weren't anywhere near $15k. If anyone knows who bought this car let them know that I've got the two biggest parts they need to get it fixed.

Hi - late to this I know! I bought 1171 and brought it to the UK. Just completed the restoration :) Any previous info on this car would be welcomed. Who owned? How long in storage? How did the crash occur etc?

[Simon5484]

Hi all - new to this forum. I bought 1171 and shipped it to the uk! I have just completed the resto...any info on the car would be gratefully received :)

[DMCVegas]

To everyone who thought that car should have just been parted out (and in honor of it's Canadian roots):

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c8/c849aaf58729c695c5743009d5d84abf6e9b9e49c08ff18c51 8dd2191af0eec3.jpg

Alright then! Congrats! Now let us see some pictures of the after work and how she looks today!

[sdg3205]

Hi all - new to this forum. I bought 1171 and shipped it to the uk! I have just completed the resto...any info on the car would be gratefully received :)

I had another thread going here about a year ago.

I can tell you more about the car later.

[Simon5484]

To everyone who thought that car should have just been parted out (and in honor of it's Canadian roots):

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c8/c849aaf58729c695c5743009d5d84abf6e9b9e49c08ff18c51 8dd2191af0eec3.jpg

Alright then! Congrats! Now let us see some pictures of the after work and how she looks today!

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Haha, see attached! Luckily the damage was localised! And yes I took a big risk - but it all worked out fine!

[Simon5484]

It's had:

Rear pontoon removed - repaired and rebuilt.
Rear section of chassis removed/ straigtened / rebuilt / reattached.
Chassis measured for distortion - all perfect :)
New rear screen.
New rear panel
New closing panel
New back lights
New impact absorber
New rear wire loom
One new light circuit board
Engine cover repaired
Louvred repaired
Rear quarter panel beaten and regrained
New rear quarter glass
Repainted both fascia
New struts all round
New brake lines
New uk light set
New stainless hand made exhaust
Regassed aircon
ALL seals replaced
New track rod ends
Repainted sway bar
New roof seals
New headlining
New carpets
Lower front springs
Led bulbs
Plus loads of other stuff I can't even remember!

Luckily no damage whatsoever beyond the rear pontoon. But could have been so much worse! I have pictures of the full resto :)

Paid 9500 gbp plus shipping :)

[Citizen]

Did you happen to record the frame number?

And, do you care to reveal what city in the UK you are in?

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[Simon5484]

Did you happen to record the frame number?

And, do you care to reveal what city in the UK you are in?

...

I can look when I get home (at the frame number) - I am in York :)

[Simon5484]

Did you happen to record the frame number?

And, do you care to reveal what city in the UK you are in?

...

What - I do need..is proof of the orginal registration date. The title only states the build date and the year. I require the actual date of registration. I know I can get the first owner sheet from the Delorean museum - but it takes ages to come. Is there any other resource I can get the date from?

[Dangermouse]

Even if you get it Simon, that doc won't give you the date of first registration, just when the car was sold.

I would suggest checking with the guys on deloreaneurotec.uk or deloreans.co.uk as this is a common issue that they know how to overcome.


Did you have any issue with the DVLA with your rebuilt title?

[DMCVegas]

What - I do need..is proof of the orginal registration date. The title only states the build date and the year. I require the actual date of registration. I know I can get the first owner sheet from the Delorean museum - but it takes ages to come. Is there any other resource I can get the date from?

Call up DMCH, or e-mail James Espy. You can get the information quickly that way since it appears that they also have the initial Warranty Card as well. Unless you need an official copy of the original registration.

Once you know the original state it came from, you can contact that state's DMV or Public Safety office to find out about obtaining a copy of the registration. States such as California have everything archived in microfiche and can get you a copy for a fee ($20 if memory serves).

Nice pictures by the way! That's one helluva nice repair job!

[Simon5484]

Even if you get it Simon, that doc won't give you the date of first registration, just when the car was sold.

I would suggest checking with the guys on deloreaneurotec.uk or deloreans.co.uk as this is a common issue that they know how to overcome.


Did you have any issue with the DVLA with your rebuilt title?

Hi - no issue with rebuilt title - car has passed full MOT - no diff to rebuilding any classical - date when sold should be fine - they just need a guide for the logbook.

[Simon5484]

Call up DMCH, or e-mail James Espy. You can get the information quickly that way since it appears that they also have the initial Warranty Card as well. Unless you need an official copy of the original registration.

Once you know the original state it came from, you can contact that state's DMV or Public Safety office to find out about obtaining a copy of the registration. States such as California have everything archived in microfiche and can get you a copy for a fee ($20 if memory serves).

Nice pictures by the way! That's one helluva nice repair job!

Thank you :) it was (and is) a labour of love :) such a clean chassis etc and a lovely engine - far to good to waste :)

Thanks for the info - that's really useful - will let you know how I get on :)

[Dangermouse]

Hi - no issue with rebuilt title - car has passed full MOT - no diff to rebuilding any classical - date when sold should be fine - they just need a guide for the logbook.

Will you get a clean V5C or will it show Cat C or D or something?

[Simon5484]

Will you get a clean V5C or will it show Cat C or D or something?

Hey, the logbook never shows that stuff - that's just added to a database by uk insurers based upon their decisions after an accident. The damage was very limited - probably wouldn't have been a write off over here at all due to the higher values of Deloreans in the UK.

Not really bothered either way as will never be sold 😀

[Ryan King]

Car looks great. I went back over the accident photos and it really wasn't a total loss.

If anyone said to part it out, you're ridiculous. Nice to see an early VIN car saved.

[louielouie2000]

Car looks great. I went back over the accident photos and it really wasn't a total loss.

If anyone said to part it out, you're ridiculous. Nice to see an early VIN car saved.

I don't think having an opinion that this car was a write off was ridiculous; just pragmatic. The high asking price + high repair estimate + extremely reduced residual value due to a salvage title made repairing the car in North America financially unsound. I forget that cars like these are increasingly saved from death by being purchased by overseas buyers, though. I too am a huge fan of the early cars, and an even bigger fan of the original wide stripes. So many people remove unique details like the dark wheels and wide stripes- I'm so glad this car has been preserved. :yesss:

[Simon5484]

I don't think having an opinion that this car was a write off was ridiculous; just pragmatic. The high asking price + high repair estimate + extremely reduced residual value due to a salvage title made repairing the car in North America financially unsound. I forget that cars like these are increasingly saved from death by being purchased by overseas buyers, though. I too am a huge fan of the early cars, and an even bigger fan of the original wide stripes. So many people remove unique details like the dark wheels and wide stripes- I'm so glad this car has been preserved. :yesss:

Hi - thanks guys - I suppose the labour cost would have been pretty substantial - but I can't tell you how clean the frame and engine were. Even the clock works :)

Yeah - I agree about the early cars - love the stripe and everyone always comments on the wheels - I think they are very cool :) still a number of jobs to do - but it is a Delorean :)

I'll post some resto pics tomorrow 😐

[jerzybondov]

Hey Simon,

How much of the repair work did you do yourself? Big job but looks great! She's not UK registered yet I take it?

[MikeWard]

What - I do need..is proof of the orginal registration date. The title only states the build date and the year. I require the actual date of registration. I know I can get the first owner sheet from the Delorean museum - but it takes ages to come. Is there any other resource I can get the date from?
I believe it is possible to register without a title document. Have a read here; http://www.deloreaneurotec.uk/viewtopic.php?f=148&t=5124

We had the same question asked on the Eurotec forum some time ago, it should be possible to register the car in the UK without a title document.

[chris williams]

It is possible as I have done this a couple of times now for imported cars that have no title, You can contact me via the website if needed: www.deloreans.co.uk
Any help you need just ask!
Chris

[Simon5484]

Hey Simon,

How much of the repair work did you do yourself? Big job but looks great! She's not UK registered yet I take it?

Hi - Most of it - I had a specialist firm do the rear of the frame. It was twisted in the corner but localized. Fibreglass is pretty easy ;) Then lots of parts buying!! :)

[Simon5484]

I believe it is possible to register without a title document. Have a read here; http://www.deloreaneurotec.uk/viewtopic.php?f=148&t=5124

We had the same question asked on the Eurotec forum some time ago, it should be possible to register the car in the UK without a title document.

I think its all sorted now :) I just needed proof of date of manufacture - I got the Delorean Museum to send through all docs... :) DVLA are really helpful - yes really :)

[Simon5484]

It is possible as I have done this a couple of times now for imported cars that have no title, You can contact me via the website if needed: www.deloreans.co.uk
Any help you need just ask!
Chris

Hi Chris

Really appreciated :) I think I have it sorted - so we will see :) Can't wait to put real plates on it! :) Very excited....