two dmc forums

[jamesvnz]

HI I Am only a member on this dmc site however can someone tell a brief history to why there are two of them?

and they look almost exactly the same
thanks :-)

[opethmike]

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[davidc89]

38935

[jamesvnz]

38935


ok i think i get it now! :-)

[Michael]

The only difference is one site you are allowed to discuss religion and politics and the other you are not.

[davidc89]

ok i think i get it now! :-)

Just go up to the search bar and enter "dmctoday," then go to the last couple pages... You will see the history between the two and make your own conclusions.

[opethmike]

One site says they censor, the other says they don't. They both do.

[Ras12]

IMO...if you are searching for or need to ask technical questions about our cars, both forums are great. Putting personal opinions and politics aside, DeLorean Owners has historically been great at helping one another maintain our vehicles.

Just my 2 cents.

[Michael]

http://dmctoday.com/showthread.php?1859-Muslim-ramblings-merged-here

http://dmctoday.com/showthread.php?1916-Gun-Laws-In-NYS

http://dmctoday.com/showthread.php?1701-Thoughts-on-cop-killings

http://dmctoday.com/showthread.php?1859-Muslim-ramblings-merged-here



One site says they censor, the other says they don't. They both do.

Ya think so huh? Try posting any of our discussions here and see how quickly the choker collar gets yanked.

Hell I would bet this thread gets locked or this post deleted for even directing to a "taboo" subject.

[Bitsyncmaster]

You can get some good info on DMCtoday that is not posted here. The "spec 01" steering is a good example. But yes often the threads get filled with a lot of joking comments. You don't have to look at the threads about non-DeLorean topics if you don't like that sort of stuff.

[TTait]

The problem is that once someone steps up on a soapbox and expresses strong, or more often insulting political commentary, it's hard to take them seriously afterwards. I'm here to discuss the car - not geopolitical views. A simple discussion on motor oil can get quickly peppered with off topic sentiments, and the whole community suffers. I don't care who any of you are voting for, but I really appreciate your views on the car.

We are here to share our love of the cars, not seek reassurance that our views are shared by everyone else - that's what bars and other forums are for. The "no political posts" is one of the most refreshing changes from the old .com board I can think of. Thank you admins.

Tom

[opethmike]

Ya think so huh? Try posting any of our discussions here and see how quickly the choker collar gets yanked.

I don't think so; I know so. Each of my accounts I've made on there has been deleted. Granted, I was mercilessly trolling the rednecks over there, but censorship is censorship :)

[Jonathan]

The problem is that once someone steps up on a soapbox and expresses strong, or more often insulting political commentary, it's hard to take them seriously afterwards. I'm here to discuss the car - not geopolitical views. A simple discussion on motor oil can get quickly peppered with off topic sentiments, and the whole community suffers. I don't care who any of you are voting for, but I really appreciate your views on the car.

We are here to share our love of the cars, not seek reassurance that our views are shared by everyone else - that's what bars and other forums are for. The "no political posts" is one of the most refreshing changes from the old .com board I can think of. Thank you admins.

Tom

Really well said, Tom.

I quite like the way things are run, or kept in check, here on the Talk forum.

You can be of any shape, size, background, profession, intellect or expertise and happily own a DeLorean. And you can see how when all those types of people are together, everyone gets along just fine, because none of those differences matter. You only have to attend a DCS or a Midwest Open House to see it for yourself.

What isn't as forgiving though is the Internet. Not everyone thrives in every situation and not everyone comes with some minimum amount of skin thickness, sense of humour, tolerance for ignorance or patience with those lacking tact. I don't think the Talk forum is perfect of course, but putting some boundaries in place that allow the majority of people to get the help they need for their cars is a good thing in my book.

You're never going to please everyone, that's for sure. And it is for that reason alone that I think there needed to be more than one forum. Plus, some folks can't handle a blue DeLorean graphic in the upper corner. Sheesh. j/k :)

[Soundkillr]

The problem is that once someone steps up on a soapbox and expresses strong, or more often insulting political commentary, it's hard to take them seriously afterwards. I'm here to discuss the car - not geopolitical views. A simple discussion on motor oil can get quickly peppered with off topic sentiments, and the whole community suffers. I don't care who any of you are voting for, but I really appreciate your views on the car.

We are here to share our love of the cars, not seek reassurance that our views are shared by everyone else - that's what bars and other forums are for. The "no political posts" is one of the most refreshing changes from the old .com board I can think of. Thank you admins.

Tom


Well said, I'm glad a few people get it.....

[Rich_NYS]

On the topic of Talk vs. Today, I often say: "sometimes I feel like a nut, sometimes I don't" (it's looser over there, tighter over here.)


This post sums it up well:

You can get some good info on DMCtoday that is not posted here. The "spec 01" steering is a good example. But yes often the threads get filled with a lot of joking comments. You don't have to look at the threads about non-DeLorean topics if you don't like that sort of stuff.



Both forums are great, but different from each other. There are many of us who are members of both forums, so I think that says a lot.



Here's the most important thing:

You can be of any shape, size, background, profession, intellect or expertise and happily own a DeLorean. And you can see how when all those types of people are together, everyone gets along just fine, because none of those differences matter. You only have to attend a DCS or a Midwest Open House to see it for yourself.

[Rich_NYS]

IMO...if you are searching for or need to ask technical questions about our cars, both forums are great. Putting personal opinions and politics aside, DeLorean Owners has historically been great at helping one another maintain our vehicles.

Just my 2 cents.

+1

[opethmike]

Ooooh, I've got it!

One has an abundance of nerds
The other is filled with hillbillies

[Kane]

Oh how I've missed a good ole' Talk vs Today fight. It's interesting how Michael frames Today as Talk but with politics and religion (and I would add there's an ample dose of sexism). If you want political and religious discussion, of course the first place you would think of is a DeLorean forum. Makes sense to me.

[AirmanPika]

*sigh*

Can't we all be friends?

https://youtu.be/5DmYLrxR0Y8?t=52s

[Michael]

Oh how I've missed a good ole' Talk vs Today fight. It's interesting how Michael frames Today as Talk but with politics and religion (and I would add there's an ample dose of sexism). If you want political and religious discussion, of course the first place you would think of is a DeLorean forum. Makes sense to me.

Actually our "off topic" area is just for all subject matter and things that normally don't fall under the DeLorean banner. Off topic means exactly that, so by definition it's not always DeLorean talk in "off topic" and if it doesn't interest you then we think you are mature enough to not click on the thread. I for one enjoy discussions with my online Delorean buddies and not having to worry about if I fall under the list of forbidden subjects as handed down to you by the powers that be.

I can promise you that the ONLY accounts that were banned were bots...not deleted, banned. Today has banned only one human member (thirdmanj) and that was because he posted hardcore porn....and that was a temporary ban at that.

[88KPH]

if it doesn't interest you then we think you are mature enough to not click on the thread.


Today has banned only one human member (thirdmanj) and that was because he posted hardcore porn.


How do these two statements both apply?

[Michael]

How do these two statements both apply?

On the later, posting a thread with a harmless title only to lead to hardcore porn can get someone fired at work.

[mr_maxime]

I'm also here for the car. I don't care what your political or religious views are. There are countless places to discuss those, but few places to discuss Deloreans. I honestly don't get why people get upset that those topics are banned since every forum I've been a member of has had those topics banned. I mean the Delorean owner community is small enough as it is, why split it talking about politics?

[Delorean Industries]

In a perfect world no forums would exist. Owners would be unable to take the poor advice of a bunch of people that have no idea what they are doing and the vendor population that suffers (me excluded of course due to my niche' in a niche') would flourish.

[opethmike]

I can promise you that the ONLY accounts that were banned were bots...not deleted, banned. Today has banned only one human member (thirdmanj) and that was because he posted hardcore porn....and that was a temporary ban at that.

Sir, your pants appear to be on fire.

[mluder]

The "spec 01" steering is a good example.

I'm not familiar...
Please explain.

Cheers
Steven

[Bitsyncmaster]

I'm not familiar...
Please explain.

Cheers
Steven

That is Bill's name for the changes he came up with to install a vibration isolation joint to the steering. It used off the self parts which cost about $250.

[sdg3205]

That's bills "brand" for all his mods actually, including exhaust.

[Josh]

That's bills "brand" for all his mods actually, including exhaust.

and what an exhaust it is...

[opethmike]

and what an exhaust it is...

Couple of dryer tubes, and some coffee cans.

[fnzen]

HI I Am only a member on this dmc site however can someone tell a brief history to why there are two of them?

and they look almost exactly the same
thanks :-)

Actually there are more forums :

DeLorean UK

http://www.deloreaneurotec.uk/

And there was one that was "DeLorean" supported but I can not seem to find that link anymore

most of us on Talk has to go to these above two forums a few years ago when Talk lost its host


when Talk came back up is about when the "Today" started

[opethmike]

Pardon for the off-topic; but how do you like that Mondial? Always thought they were really great looking cars.

[88KPH]

Hey don't forget this one ........ http://deloreans.co.uk/forum/index.php?sid=79165313aac26cfeaab9006f87984ff3

[DMCVegas]

The splintering of DeLorean forums is not a new one. The first separations started to appear probably about 14 years ago. Of the offshoots that arose out of the DML (which came up out of USENET), DMCTalk here has been really the most successful one. It also in hindsight was needed due to better organization of topics and sub-thread. But mostly the overall splintering and division was pushed forward because of four people; Claude Landi, Bill Robertson, "checksix3" (still unknown), and "FatBoy" (beleived to be Ed B. for D1). Make no mistake, this is NOT any sort of accolades for these four. ALL of them ran amuck on the DML. There was arguing, trolling, and offline baiting into fights, and the moderators ended up getting caught in the middle of it all. The majority of people complained, a few left, and many more went into lurking mode and stopped actively participating.. It greatly turned people off to the community. DMCForum was a contender for the DML, but it faded off too after a few years.

In the time since, most people seem to have gravitated over here to DMCTalk to continue the community and further it's online presence. And things were rather good. Talk's previous rules did allow for a totally open discussion, but given that people couldn't handle the discussions, the No Religion and Politics rule was set to keep things civilized. Which seems to work out quite nicely for the majority of us. For a time anyways until a few people tried starting fights again. But there was the further splinter of the group when those who did not wish to abide by the rules decided to go off and form their own site. Which for the most part seems to work out pretty well for all involved.

"Today" is definitely more of a clubhouse, whereas "Talk" is more like a community center. We have our blow-off threads, and even the occasional blowup as to be expected, but we either keep it contained and civilized here, or just extinguish it quickly. Today is going to be filled more with constant "in-jokes", and can be a bit rougher at times it seems given certain topics that have crossed-over between the forums. Specifically a distinct lack of compromise coupled with the desire to be *right* about something at any cost. Perhaps not site-wide, but absolutely for a handful of people over there that cast off for the site.

Make no mistake though, this isn't an "us or them" type of situation. At least not over here on Talk. Many people are members of both sites. It just depends upon your social needs and wants.

[opethmike]

...I think that is the shortest post you've ever written!

[DMCVegas]

...I think that is the shortest post you've ever written!

I write short things all the time.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/54854944.jpg

Oh, one more thing, OP. DMCTalk is also starting to get heavy on the memes now, so there's that...

[opethmike]

You know, for a guy I don't like at all, I like you an awful lot. Thanks for the chuckle, lol.

[sdg3205]

Oh, one more thing, OP. DMCTalk is also starting to get heavy on the memes now, so there's that...

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/04/d6444dd1bbe809fdfcaa091f7b05763d.jpg

[fnzen]

Pardon for the off-topic; but how do you like that Mondial? Always thought they were really great looking cars.

FERRARI! what more can I say?

its really cool, not a fast car for today but fun factor galore! although I get more approaches in the D the Ferrari just makes people all excited when I tell them to get in and have a seat check it out , the other Ferrari owners are absolute enthusiasts and most of the older crowd owned a Mondial at some point and still speak highly of the car, we have a real good thread in the Ferrarichat forum for support too! oh and did I say that entry ticket to a Ferrari is around 30K?

[Citizen]

[snip]

And there was one that was "DeLorean" supported but I can not seem to find that link anymore



I believe that would be www.DMCHelp.com (http://www.dmchelp.com).

It is still there, but there is no activity.

...

[fnzen]

I believe that would be www.DMCHelp.com (http://www.dmchelp.com).

It is still there, but there is no activity.

...

Thats it! will book mark again as it has some very good technical information...uhmm seem to have to login to view dont remember that before

[Jonathan]

"Today" is definitely more of a clubhouse, whereas "Talk" is more like a community center.

Good analogy. I had been thinking it was something like Talk is you and your work buddies while you are at work, and Today is you and your work buddies while at the bar after work.

[DMCVegas]

You know, for a guy I don't like at all, I like you an awful lot. Thanks for the chuckle, lol.

Thanks, and you're welcome?

http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxMy1hNWZjNjhlZDcyNzBkNzM1.png

[Lou and "Boo"]

Good analogy. I had been thinking it was something like Talk is you and your work buddies while you are at work, and Today is you and your work buddies while at the bar after work.

Now that's a GREAT analogy!

I personally like Today better because I feel more at ease and love my boys there. Talk makes me feel like I gonna get a moderator spankin' if I type the wrong thing. Also Talk seems to have more people who jump on you and insult whereas Today can be more open to new viewpoints and more tolerant of newbies and people who aren't purists or who don't know a lot about the car.

Talk = Strict
Today = Relaxed

I post on both forums, but I do favor Today.

[Lou and "Boo"]

You know, for a guy I don't like at all, I like you an awful lot.

Funny, I feel the same way about Robert (DMC Vegas)

[DMCVegas]

Funny, I feel the same way about Robert (DMC Vegas)

Oh boy, let met tell you about all the love I'm feeling right now...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/13/ae/68/13ae6819443c6cc6afbf6f5a78bfdc05.jpg

[Andrew]

In a perfect world no forums would exist. Owners would be unable to take the poor advice of a bunch of people that have no idea what they are doing and the vendor population that suffers (me excluded of course due to my niche' in a niche') would flourish.

The forums provide a useful resource to DIY owners such as myself. As a member of both forums, I have found them to be a valuable source of information and a great way to network with other owners. Many of us enjoy working on our DeLoreans ourselves and/or don't want to ship or drive our car to a vendor for maintenance. While I do agree that there is some misinformation to be found on the forums, generally speaking there is a lot of good information and tech tips. I would like to think I'm smart enough to ascertain the reliable information from the BS. Before undertaking any major project that I haven't done before, I research the issue on one or both forums and get input from various owners.

The forums also provide good information regarding upgrades / mods, including some that are not available from the vendors. For example, I have installed a vibration reducing u-joint on both of my DeLoreans with excellent results. Ironically, this is not a part which is available from any vendor. Also, the forums contain a great deal of information about options such as carburation. In contrast, in 1998 when I asked Ed Bernstein about the possibility of using a carbureted PRV intake, I was told that the intake would not bolt to the DeLorean PRV.

[mr_maxime]

As a newbie owner and not knowing much about cars I disagree that talk is rough on new owners. Almost everyone has been helpful especially sedoc members. I've seen talk members get upset about people wanting to crowdfund buying a Delorean and when today members are instigating. If you don't like people or the rules on this forum, don't use it.

[Lou and "Boo"]

I like to visit Talk, but I consider Today my home.

[Andrew]

I like to visit Talk, but I consider Today my home.

I am a member and contributor to both forums. However, I too consider Today my home for a number of reasons. Specifically, I find that the Today forum has more information regarding and is generally more encouraging of carburation. Furthermore, I find that Today members are more like minded in the idea that a DeLorean was built to be driven and enjoyed.

[sdg3205]

Home is where your carb is.

[DMCVegas]

Home is where your carb is.

http://t2.rbxcdn.com/04fd41a22aae2fc51f5bd96b55af627e

[mluder]

Home is where your carb is.

Or "is NOT" as the case may be.

Cheers
Steve

[opethmike]

Dr. Atkins does not approve of dmctoday

[sdg3205]

Dr. Atkins does not approve of dmctoday

That's all I needed to hear.

[Lou and "Boo"]

Today also seems more open to modifications and mainly not Delorean vendor sold mods. With the exception of NightFlyer, who is very purist with his own car.

[sdg3205]

This "talk" place sounds like it's full of left wing, purist a-holes.

[Citizen]

...I think that is the shortest post you've ever written!

You know, for a guy I don't like at all, I like you an awful lot. [snip]

Funny, I feel the same way about Robert (DMC Vegas)

Home is where your carb is.

Or "is NOT" as the case may be.

Dr. Atkins does not approve of dmctoday

Now see, this is one reason I stay on Talk. You guys can give me the chuckles, just when I need it most!

...

[sdg3205]

I really do love it here ;)

[Lou and "Boo"]

My feeling is that I can say whatever I want to say on Today, here I feel stifled like Edith Bunker.

[sdg3205]

Penis

[Lou and "Boo"]

Is that small font size a clue Dave ?


;)

[opethmike]

Vagina

You know, that thing Lou has never seen.

[Lou and "Boo"]

Vagina

You know, that thing Lou has never seen.

Not only have I seen vaginas I pulled three of my own children out of one that I still visit regularly thank you very much.

I was kidding around with Dave but I can take the joking too.

[sdg3205]

Don't blow this for us, Lou!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/06/eb0e403dcec496831bfba9bcf20e296d.jpg

[Lou and "Boo"]

Wait, first you write 'penis' and then 'blow this'?!?

Don't worry, I most definitely will NOT 'blow this' !

:drummer: " Ba Dum Ching ! "