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spikeygg
07-30-2016, 11:38 PM
So this morning I was trying to take the driver's side door panel out. I had previously read a couple of other people's posts who ended up breaking their side-view mirror adjuster switch but I proceeded to follow that same path and mine busted up and spilled out on the garage floor. Not sure how you're supposed to remove it without breaking the switch...

Anyway, after removing the door panel I see that the plug going to the switch has a white wire that is hanging there and is not hooked up to the plug. Does anyone know how to de-pin this connector so I can re-crimp this wire?

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81dmc
07-31-2016, 01:26 AM
So this morning I was trying to take the driver's side door panel out. I had previously read a couple of other people's posts who ended up breaking their side-view mirror adjuster switch but I proceeded to follow that same path and mine busted up and spilled out on the garage floor. Not sure how you're supposed to remove it without breaking the switch...

Anyway, after removing the door panel I see that the plug going to the switch has a white wire that is hanging there and is not hooked up to the plug. Does anyone know how to de-pin this connector so I can re-crimp this wire?

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If you PM me your address, I'll send you an uncrimped, female pin in a regular envelope. If you take up the offer, than you'll just have to pry the side of the pin until you release the small retaining clip.

BABIS
07-31-2016, 05:29 AM
than you'll just have to pry the side of the pin until you release the small retaining clip.

original pins have 2 retaining clips

Bitsyncmaster
07-31-2016, 06:05 AM
If your not saving the old "pin" you can just use a "pick" to bend the fingers inward. I still have a few pin extractors I sell but without the wire to pull the pin out, I don't think that will help you.

spikeygg
07-31-2016, 07:06 PM
If your not saving the old "pin" you can just use a "pick" to bend the fingers inward. I still have a few pin extractors I sell but without the wire to pull the pin out, I don't think that will help you.

Do I attack the fingers from the back of the plug (near the wires) or the front of the plug (mating surface)? I'm thinking about using a sewing needle or other sharp rigid thing (like a pick) to do it, should I use it along the outside of the round pin to bend the fingers inward? I looked at it for a while and I couldn't find the fingers with my naked eye. :(

Bitsyncmaster
07-31-2016, 07:39 PM
Do I attack the fingers from the back of the plug (near the wires) or the front of the plug (mating surface)? I'm thinking about using a sewing needle or other sharp rigid thing (like a pick) to do it, should I use it along the outside of the round pin to bend the fingers inward? I looked at it for a while and I couldn't find the fingers with my naked eye. :(

You bend the fingers inward from the front (no wire) side. But because the fingers on those pins have a point that tends to dig into the plastic, it's best to be pushing the wire to the front at the same time. That lifts the point off the plastic connector.

There is not much room with the female pins.

Ron
08-01-2016, 12:56 AM
If ya need to get them out w/o risking damage or do a lot of wiring, try a
Lisle Wire Terminal Tool for ~$8.00 HERE (http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDisplay.cfm?lookup=LIS56500&source=froogle&kw=LIS56500&gclid=CJaz0d-zn84CFVEkgQodd4cO3g) -- If you are in a hurry, I've seen these in O'Reilly Auto Parts for ~15.00,IIRC, ...less for cheaper brands.

You can pull them in <1 second :smile:

spikeygg
08-01-2016, 09:04 AM
If ya need to get them out w/o risking damage or do a lot of wiring, try a
Lisle Wire Terminal Tool for ~$8.00 HERE (http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDisplay.cfm?lookup=LIS56500&source=froogle&kw=LIS56500&gclid=CJaz0d-zn84CFVEkgQodd4cO3g) -- If you are in a hurry, I've seen these in O'Reilly Auto Parts for ~15.00,IIRC, ...less for cheaper brands.

You can pull them in <1 second :smile:

Thanks Ron, very helpful. I went through the motions on the website you sent and they want over 2x the cost of the tool for the cheapest shipping option! So I searched for "Terminal Tool" and found the same tool for $11.85 and free shipping (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lisle-Tools-56500-Terminal-Tool-For-Wire-Removal-/331542324306?hash=item4d31766452:g:tqkAAOSweW5Vek2 7&item=331542324306&vxp=mtr). :)

I'll get it and try it out. I have some time to wait for parts to arrive anyway... just ordered about $400 in stuff yesterday. :umm:

spikeygg
08-01-2016, 09:05 AM
You bend the fingers inward from the front (no wire) side. But because the fingers on those pins have a point that tends to dig into the plastic, it's best to be pushing the wire to the front at the same time. That lifts the point off the plastic connector.

There is not much room with the female pins.

Thanks Dave, I took a highres closeup photo of the pin and I can see the pins I need to press. I think (and hope) the tool will help.

spikeygg
08-03-2016, 09:22 PM
The tool came in the mail today and I went out there and pulled the pin, easy peasy! Thank you everybody for the help with this.

81dmc
08-03-2016, 09:32 PM
The tool came in the mail today and I went out there and pulled the pin, easy peasy! Thank you everybody for the help with this.

You should be receiving something in the mail soon.

Also, I threw in an extra pin just in case...

spikeygg
08-03-2016, 09:44 PM
You should be receiving something in the mail soon.

Also, I threw in an extra pin just in case...

AWESOME! That will help immensely! Thank you Rodolfo!

spikeygg
11-05-2016, 06:41 PM
You should be receiving something in the mail soon.

Also, I threw in an extra pin just in case...

Rodolfo, these pins are very useful. Do you know where I can buy a set of them?

81dmc
11-05-2016, 07:21 PM
Rodolfo, these pins are very useful. Do you know where I can buy a set of them?

Here ya go...

http://www.britishwiring.com/

Bitsyncmaster
11-05-2016, 07:30 PM
Here ya go...

http://www.britishwiring.com/

That vendor did carry the exact pins used in our stock round pin connectors. But now they sell another pin and they really don't work for the OEM connectors. If you get the new connector shells then the new pins fit those and mate fine to OEM connectors.

You can see only one locking finger on those new pins. The length of the pins are a little shorter and the crimp ends will only work with 16 AWG or smaller wire.

81dmc
11-05-2016, 11:24 PM
That vendor did carry the exact pins used in our stock round pin connectors. But now they sell another pin and they really don't work for the OEM connectors. If you get the new connector shells then the new pins fit those and mate fine to OEM connectors.

You can see only one locking finger on those new pins. The length of the pins are a little shorter and the crimp ends will only work with 16 AWG or smaller wire.

Hell, if it now requires swapping the whole connector, than it is better to go with another manufacturer. I like to use connectors from TE Connectivity (aka Tyco)...

Bitsyncmaster
11-06-2016, 04:32 AM
Hell, if it now requires swapping the whole connector, than it is better to go with another manufacturer. I like to use connectors from TE Connectivity (aka Tyco)...

These new pins are made by AMP. Only place I have seen the old pins are some ads on eBay overseas. The old pins are getting higher prices since they are getting hard to get.