Restoration candidate?

[tianlung4028]

Hello all,

I stumbled upon this listing on Hemmings: https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/delorean/dmc-12/1915731.html#&gid=1&pid=5
It pains me to see a Delorean in a scrap yard for what appears to be a little body damage.
Do you think this D would be a good restoration candidate? It looks like the entire right side would need to be replaced, and it looks like the infamous left front quarter panel would need to be replaced as well. I'm no expert but I would love your opinions.
Thanks!
Larry

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[DMCVegas]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-carjacker-delorean-pursuit-santa-monica-20160915-snap-story.html

[tianlung4028]

Wow. What a terrible scenario.
It must be a nightmare for owners. Thanks for the info.

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[cdrusn]

You know the engine/transmission and frame are all good. There is probably some hidden damage to the suspension front and rear. If you got it for $2500 it would always be worth twice that in parts. If it's at IAAI it is probably going as a rebuilt/salvage title so that greatly reduces the price once it's repaired.:race:

[tianlung4028]

You know the engine/transmission and frame are all good. There is probably some hidden damage to the suspension front and rear. If you got it for $2500 it would always be worth twice that in parts. If it's at IAAI it is probably going as a rebuilt/salvage title so that greatly reduces the price once it's repaired.:race:
How much would a rebuild title lower the value versus a standard title? Half?? I'm thinking that there is at least 10k just in body panels alone yet alone any suspension/other gremlins. My main worry is the crumple zones in the front since the article said it did take an impact there.

I know all about the "30k rule" and I've seen so many posts about having to sell due to running out of money. I just wonder if there was a way.

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[Gfrank]

You won't get that car for 2500$. It will bring in the 10k range no problem. Easy fix

[DMCVegas]

How much would a rebuild title lower the value versus a standard title?

That is an impossible question to answer. It definitely will lower the value, because as soon as the majority of people see "rebuild title", they will run away. Or at least try and use that as leverage against you. Which kinda makes sense, because they'll be in the same boat of having a hard sell if they ever try and sell that car.

A rebuilt title of course is supposed to mean a previous salvage title due to excessive damage, but doesn't differentiate between that and catastrophic damage either. So if you purchase a car with a salvage title, aside from the question of *IF* you can rebuild it in the first place which lends itself to a very lengthy inspection, your big responsibility is going to be documenting the entire process.

Even on a car with a clean title, you are supposed to do your due diligence and inspect for things like rust & collision damage, yes. But even so, those are but mere wear and tear items. A salvage-cum-rebuilt title can be so much worse, because you have to look for flood damage, catastrophic collision damage that destroys the entire inherent safety of the car. Sure you might look for things like minor collision damage with a regular title, but it's still replaceable items (like suspension for example) that do not threaten the overall safety of the vehicle. Rebuilt can mean hidden damage that you cannot see. So if you rebuild a car, you need to make damn certain that you document the entire process as much as possible. With a car like this for example, you need to pull body panels and inspect the underbody for cracks. Then you need to have photographic evidence that either no cracks exist, or if present, you properly repaired them. Rise/repeat this constantly for everything on the car. Then present this as part of your sales pitch when you go to sell the car.

If you're flipping cheap econoboxes to desperate people who need a car, rebuilt titles aren't a problem. But when you're putting serious money on the line, they're not easy to flip. You either need to be a long-term owner, or you need to establish some serious trust with a buyer who is going to become a long-term owner.

Again, I cannot say how much a rebuilt title is going to depreciate the value of the car. But I can certainly say that the documentation process will definitely eat up allot of time out of your budget.

[opethmike]

But I can certainly say that the documentation process will definitely eat up allot of time out of your budget.

Kind of like reading your Herman Melville length posts?

[Andrew]

Rebuilt title requirements and inspections differ considerably from State to State. While I agree that a previous salvage title can impact issues such as loan value and insurance, there are generally some different criteria that apply to specialty vehicles such as DeLoreans and other older rare cars that are no longer subject to market factors such as depreciation.

In many instances a salvage / rebuilt titled DeLorean might be better than a DeLorean with a clear title. Notably, I would rather have a nice Delorean with a rebuilt title than a clear title basketcase Delorean that has sat in a field for 20 years with a rotten frame.

In summary, I wouldn't purchase a salvage title car as an investment. But I wouldn't let a car's title status dissuade me from buying it as a potential driver.

PS: It's hard to tell from the pictures, is there any damage to that hood?

[vwdmc16]

So when is the auction? There isnt any info I can find.

[Dangermouse]

according to this

https://sca.auction/en/locations/branch-ca-fontana-132

it's either today or next Monday

but when you drill down, the D doesn't appear. I would think it's best to give them a call.

[DMCVegas]

It's listed as a "Future Sale".

Ron's other car just sold there today ($3,425), and this one is listed at the bottom with no link to it yet.

https://sca.auction/en/18324579-1981-delorean-dmc-12

[Oliver1212]

Does anyone have experience with SCA auctions? Are they a reputable company? It seems like many of the cars i have seen have been advertised by several auction:confused0: sites for the same car. Thanks

[Ras12]

Does anyone have experience with SCA auctions? Are they a reputable company? It seems like many of the cars i have seen have been advertised by several auction:confused0: sites for the same car. Thanks

They are a brokerage company that uses their dealers license to give no dealers access to these dealer only type auctions. Be very careful as a lot of times the brokers just transfer the titles to your name directly from the auction company...this is an issue as they are supposed to take title as the dealer/reseller of record THEN sell it you and collect the sales taxes for their state. Often times they don't and put the title in the buyers name and the purchaser ends up years later having to pay the back taxes or a lien on the title. Unfortunately I found this out the hard way!