Has anyone ever listened to their injectors?

[Parzval]

While troubleshooting my engine yesterday I decided to listen to my injectors with a stethoscope and a couple sound like they are screeching... like an old 300 baud modem. I'm pretty certain that's not right. The majority of them sound like a nice oiled sewing-machine hum and click.

Actually.. they all were fairly noisy at first, but most of them smoothed out while I was monkeying around. I did put a can of gas treatment in the tank earlier that evening. But perhaps that could be coincidence. However, the miss I was experiencing seemed to go away as well... and no noticeable stumbling on revving. I didn't have the time to take it for a road test last night, but I will today.

Can anyone confirm what the injectors should be doing / sounding like? I don't imagine the sound of them should change much during operation. And I also assume they should all at the very least sound the same.


Thanks!
Josh

[David T]

A low screech. You may also be hearing air leaks past old, hard injector seals. The screech will get louder as the revs increase and they squirt more fuel. The frequency valve makes a buzzing sound that varies in frequency. The motor will hunt and you can hear the revs go up and down. A cacophony that you can hear as you walk up to a running PRV.

[Bitsyncmaster]

When you do a flow test (put injectors in jars and press the air plate) you do get a screeching sound.

[iflights]

A low screech. You may also be hearing air leaks past old, hard injector seals. The screech will get louder as the revs increase and they squirt more fuel. The frequency valve makes a buzzing sound that varies in frequency. The motor will hunt and you can hear the revs go up and down. A cacophony that you can hear as you walk up to a running PRV.

+10 points for excellent word choice.

[Ratrace427]

It's easy to jump the rpm relay and put the injectors in clear cups and watch their spray pattern. Look up the process.

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[Ratrace427]

Also I would say everything is ok. They do make a solid screeching sound. They flow constantly

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[DMCVegas]

As others have said, that is perfectly normal for the injectors. As an example, here are 8 of them undergoing flow testing on a bench. You can hear what they sound like without the noise of the engine muffling them.

https://youtu.be/6yrwqspHhak?t=1m2s

[Lwanmtr]

the squeal is caused by the hamsters inside the injectors being squeezed

[Parzval]

A low screech. You may also be hearing air leaks past old, hard injector seals. The screech will get louder as the revs increase and they squirt more fuel. The frequency valve makes a buzzing sound that varies in frequency. The motor will hunt and you can hear the revs go up and down. A cacophony that you can hear as you walk up to a running PRV.

The PRV definitely is musical. I grew up on air cooled VWs, so I'm used to noisy engines. :)


When you do a flow test (put injectors in jars and press the air plate) you do get a screeching sound.

This will be next. It'll also let me see if the seals are good when I pull them.


As others have said, that is perfectly normal for the injectors. As an example, here are 8 of them undergoing flow testing on a bench. You can hear what they sound like without the noise of the engine muffling them.

That vid's pretty much how some were sounding, though at idle, and not all of them either. I didn't rev it up to hear what they would do then, I guess I should have. Well, I'll do that tomorrow just to see. Testing the spray pattern will be likely be the next project.

Thanks everybody!
I knew someone had to know what they sound like.

[dmcnc]

Yes! I thought the same: just beautiful!!


+10 points for excellent word choice.

[DMCVegas]

the squeal is caused by the hamsters inside the injectors being squeezed

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[Parzval]

+10 points for excellent word choice.


Yes! I thought the same: just beautiful!!


Totally thought the same. Just my post was getting too long. :lol:
And you know, this morning it dawned on me.... instead of having 2 bad squealing injectors.... I have FOUR bad silent ones! That stinks. :frown:

[Mark D]

the squeal is caused by the hamsters inside the injectors being squeezed


Totally thought the same. Just my post was getting too long. :lol:
And you know, this morning it dawned on me.... instead of having 2 bad squealing injectors.... I have FOUR bad silent ones! That stinks. :frown:

So four deceased hamsters then?

[Parzval]

So four deceased hamsters then?

Apparently so.

The STP injector cleaner must have helped. Car ran great all weekend for DMA spring social.
Got a few tips on cleaning them, and an offer of a tester/cleaner loan too.

Thanks for the help everyone.
:cool: