New steering rack: DMC or PJ Grady? Same?

[Redsquall]

Is one somehow better than the other?
And where do you get the vibration absorbing u joint?
my goal is to take out the slop and make the steering as responsive as tight as possible.
thanks in advance

[DaraSue]

I had mine replaced at DMCMW last year and so far, so good. I haven't driven one with the Grady one to compare it to, but it seems perfectly fine. I haven't had any problems with it.

[Chris 16409]

Rob's steering racks are refurbished originals. He uses better components than what the originals had. The ones from DMC are brand new.

[PJ Grady Inc.]

Rob's steering racks are refurbished originals. He uses better components than what the originals had. The ones from DMC are brand new.

We prefer reconditioned racks for a number of reasons all of which can be found on our website description of the product. We have been reconditioning racks in house for over twenty five years and have found them to last longer than NOS or reproduction racks.
Rob

[David T]

Another option, though pricey, is to get an electric steering rack.

[Patrick C]

Another option, though pricey, is to get an electric steering rack.

From where?

[Rich]

From where?

DeLorean Europe is at least one place to get a power steering kit/rack:

LINK: delorean.eu pwr steering (http://www.delorean.eu/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=20_143&products_id=168053&osCsid=cndv9md20jlf8oarbuoeb286e0)

[Bitsyncmaster]

Another option, though pricey, is to get an electric steering rack.

I think most electric steering is just a servo attached to the steering column. There is a lot of electronics to control that servo.

[Redsquall]

We prefer reconditioned racks for a number of reasons all of which can be found on our website description of the product. We have been reconditioning racks in house for over twenty five years and have found them to last longer than NOS or reproduction racks.
Rob

Rob

1. So its 395 + 250 - 250 once old rack sent in?
2. Can I get the absorbing ujoint by itself? Column seems fine
3. Does your rack take all the looseness out of the steering so it's tight? ( as long as it's my current rack responsible for the looseness. Which seems to be.

Thanks

[DMC5180]

2. No, it requires complete replacement of the steering upper and lower u-joint assemblies with intermediate shaft.

3. Yes, within the rack and tie rod ends only, Not the U-joints though. If they have play, they would need replacement too.



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[Bitsyncmaster]

Here is a large thread on the vibration parts and installation.

http://dmctoday.com/showthread.php?531-Spec-01-Steering&highlight=steering+vibration

[David T]

P J Grady can probably get you the electric steering rack too. Call and check on it along with your other questions.

[PJ Grady Inc.]

Rob

1. So its 395 + 250 - 250 once old rack sent in?
2. Can I get the absorbing ujoint by itself? Column seems fine
3. Does your rack take all the looseness out of the steering so it's tight? ( as long as it's my current rack responsible for the looseness. Which seems to be.

Thanks
1) The $250- is the core charge that is only applied if we don't recieve a usable core within 30 days.
2) The dampened ujoint is sold with the upper ujoint and shaft as it won't fit unless installed as an assembly. The steering column is a separate part.
3) If your rack is the only worn part then our rack will solve your problem.
Rob

[PJ Grady Inc.]

P J Grady can probably get you the electric steering rack too. Call and check on it along with your other questions.

We do carry the power steering unit but it is incorporated into a new column....not the rack. The rack stays the same.
Rob

[Redsquall]

1) The $250- is the core charge that is only applied if we don't recieve a usable core within 30 days.
2) The dampened ujoint is sold with the upper ujoint and shaft as it won't fit unless installed as an assembly. The steering column is a separate part.
3) If your rack is the only worn part then our rack will solve your problem.
Rob

I've been calling in this morning to order. Sales line goes silent when it looks like it picks up, so left msg on tech line. I'll try back in a bit. Thanks

[WNY1983]

I purchased mine from DPI, back in April. No issues. It seemed well built.

[RamblinDMC]

I've had the new DMCH steering rack for about a year. So far so good!

[DMC5180]

I've had A reman Grady rack for at least 17 years. Still Zero play after all that time. Unfortunately the LH rack boot developed minor crack last fall. Oh well, Rubber doesn't last forever components don't last forever.


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[David T]

So, if the rack is worn it has to be repaired even if you decide to go electric because you must replace the column. Oh well! The electric steering looks like a good way to go though!

[opethmike]

I like the idea of the power steering, but WOW it is expensive!

[Drive Stainless]

I like the idea of the power steering, but WOW it is expensive!

Compare with the cost of a gym membership.

[PJ Grady Inc.]

So, if the rack is worn it has to be repaired even if you decide to go electric because you must replace the column. Oh well! The electric steering looks like a good way to go though!

It transforms the car making it feel 20 years newer. The first time I spun the wheel was mind bending after so many years of heavy steering Deloreans. I was so impressed I'm thinking of putting one in my green machine. I have one for it if I could only find the time!
Rob

[DMCVegas]

We do carry the power steering unit but it is incorporated into a new column....not the rack. The rack stays the same.
Rob

Dumb question. Perhaps the acme of foolishness. But I have to ask...

Is that replacement rack collapsable to prevent it from impaling a driver in the event of a collision?

[Gfrank]

Sorry to go off topic but semi related question here, I've got a pretty decent shake in my steering wheel of my 81 at speeds over about 80km/h. Pretty much everything is new in the front end other then the rack. I believe at one point someone had mention a worn out rack causing this. I'm pretty much down to that or a bent rim

[sdg3205]

Sorry to go off topic but semi related question here, I've got a pretty decent shake in my steering wheel of my 81 at speeds over about 80km/h. Pretty much everything is new in the front end other then the rack. I believe at one point someone had mention a worn out rack causing this. I'm pretty much down to that or a bent rim

Most of time, a tire just needs to be re-balanced. Some brands more than others. We've also helped eliminate steering wheel shake by removing a shim from the rack. That applies more force of the rack to the pinion. Very much a last resort.

[Gfrank]

Most of time, a tire just needs to be re-balanced. Some brands more than others. We've also helped eliminate steering wheel shake by removing a shim from the rack. That applies more force of the rack to the pinion. Very much a last resort.

Had the fronts done twice now off the car, my next step was going to be have them done on the car

[Andrew]

I rebuilt my rack a few years ago, but I still have slight play in the left side. All the internals were in good shape, with the exception of the right bushing, which I replaced.

From a driving perspective, the steering feels great. It's tight with no vibrations at any speed.

I'm thinking it's a shim / preload issue. Any thoughts?

[Andrew]

1) The $250- is the core charge that is only applied if we don't recieve a usable core within 30 days.
2) The dampened ujoint is sold with the upper ujoint and shaft as it won't fit unless installed as an assembly. The steering column is a separate part.
3) If your rack is the only worn part then our rack will solve your problem.
Rob

Rob: What is included with the rack rebuild kit?

Thanks,

Andrew

[PJ Grady Inc.]

Rob: What is included with the rack rebuild kit?

Thanks,

Andrew

If you go to our website there is a description of the rebuilt rack. Click on the dropdown menu and then again on the third item down #118754G. That opens up a description of the kit contents and a picture which enlarges when you click on it. It is rather comprehensive to allow a total refurb of steering rack. If that doesn't answer all your questions let me know and I'll try to help.
Rob

[Nicholas R]

Dumb question. Perhaps the acme of foolishness. But I have to ask...

Is that replacement rack collapsable to prevent it from impaling a driver in the event of a collision?

I too would like to know the answer to this question.

http://www.delorean.eu/catalog/images/producten/groot/IMG_1270.JPG

The expanded metal tube is definitely eliminated based on the image, so the question would be if there is some other compression method as part of the design. It doesn't appear as though the right section of the tube shown above is designed to crush; at least not in the way the stock column is.

[PJ Grady Inc.]

I too would like to know the answer to this question.

http://www.delorean.eu/catalog/images/producten/groot/IMG_1270.JPG

The expanded metal tube is definitely eliminated based on the image, so the question would be if there is some other compression method as part of the design. It doesn't appear as though the right section of the tube shown above is designed to crush; at least not in the way the stock column is.

It doesn't look like the column is telescoping and I will inquire about it with the manufacturer if I have an opportunity. It may be redundant however as the Delorean has no engine that might force the column into the driver compartment in a severe collision. I have never seen the column move in an accident situation and I've seen some bad ones. Now if you weren't wearing your seatbelt I could see it not deflecting from your torso impacting it but don't we all wear them in this day and age? It won't stop me from putting one in my own car as time permits.
Rob

[Ron]

Compare with the cost of a gym membership.:hysterical:

[Bitsyncmaster]

It doesn't look like the column is telescoping and I will inquire about it with the manufacturer if I have an opportunity. It may be redundant however as the Delorean has no engine that might force the column into the driver compartment in a severe collision. I have never seen the column move in an accident situation and I've seen some bad ones. Now if you weren't wearing your seatbelt I could see it not deflecting from your torso impacting it but don't we all wear them in this day and age? It won't stop me from putting one in my own car as time permits.
Rob

So do you also loose the ability to adjust your steering wheel for and aft as the OEM wheel does?

[DMC5180]

The telescopic feature still works with the power column. if you look closely you will see the Stop collar rings welded about 4 inches apart. the Brain box is resting on them.


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[john 05141]

II have a brand new original DMC steeringvrak built in I can move my steering wheel an inch without the wheels reacting. I was tld dom steering racks have ths problem.
Big bummer....... has to come out.

Jan