View Full Version : Background DeLorean in the movie Scarface (1983)
Gregadeth
08-09-2017, 06:18 PM
Here is the scene for reference. At around 1:30 in the video when Pacino is standing behind the 928, you can sort of make out a DeLorean sitting in the dealer's showroom in the background.
The outline for the toll booth window is clearly visible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d8Fs08GkXs&t=01m30s
And here's a screenshot taken from my copy of the movie (slightly better quality):
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After a quick search on the web I found that the filming location for the scene was an old Mercedes dealership located at 8825 Wilshire Blvd here in the LA area.
I checked in the DMC dealer list PDF and sure enough it's listed:
05114 Beverly Hills, Inc. 8825 Wilshire Blvd Beverly Hills CA 90211
Obviously not a big deal since you can barely see the car, but as a fan of the film I think it's pretty interesting. The movie was filmed from late 1982 to early 1983 so what we're potentially seeing here is a brand new DeLorean still sitting in the dealer showroom waiting for its first buyer.
If your car was originally sold at Dealer #05114, this may even be your car.
Citizen
08-09-2017, 06:53 PM
If your car was originally sold at Dealer #05114, this may even be your car.
I did a quick scan of our Texas VIN database and found 33 cars with that dealer. Here they are in order:
1025
1124
1141
1225
1337
1921
1970
2040
2178
2295
2344
2572
2733
2858
2925
3983
4021
4082
4132
4154
4156
4192
4269
4277
4291
4378
4491
4504
5153
5389
5458
5654
6107
(That's not to say that our list is 100% complete, but I believe what is there is accurate). This is the first time I've looked at dealer/VIN relationships
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Michael
08-09-2017, 07:14 PM
It's mine.
BladeBronson
08-09-2017, 07:40 PM
Wow, good catch. I've seen that scene a hundred times and never noticed the DeLorean. I might've been skeptical, but your research into the filming location makes this seem pretty legit. I just wonder why they didn't choose to use the DeLorean in the scene. Actually, you know, the last thing we need is a Scarface connection.
Drive Stainless
08-09-2017, 11:26 PM
This appears to take DeLorean supersleuthing to new heights. Well done!
DKDMC
08-10-2017, 12:07 AM
This appears to take DeLorean supersleuthing to new heights. Well done!
I knew they used that dealership in the film but never noticed the car in the shot!! Oh man if only Tony Montana bought a delorean instead of that damn Porsche... great work putting this together!
Lwanmtr
08-10-2017, 02:39 AM
Im gonna throw a monkey wrench in here....I dont see it....if youre talking about the car outside, I see the natural curved reflections off of a window...there isnt enough detail to make out any possible trim around it. I'd bet its a 924 or 944, given that only the front part of the window is visible.
SoCalDMC12
08-10-2017, 03:17 AM
Im gonna throw a monkey wrench in here....I dont see it....if youre talking about the car outside, I see the natural curved reflections off of a window...there isnt enough detail to make out any possible trim around it. I'd bet its a 924 or 944, given that only the front part of the window is visible.
Same. Can someone descrip where it is?
Gregadeth
08-10-2017, 06:45 AM
Im gonna throw a monkey wrench in here....I dont see it....if youre talking about the car outside, I see the natural curved reflections off of a window...there isnt enough detail to make out any possible trim around it. I'd bet its a 924 or 944, given that only the front part of the window is visible.Not the car that's directly behind him, but the one further back, behind the window blinds. Here is a more zoomed-in screenshot:
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I think the low profile, the angle of the windshield, and especially the outline of the tollbooth window gives it away as a DeLorean.
Lwanmtr
08-10-2017, 07:03 AM
Yes, I know it wasnt the one right behind him...hehe.
I'm still not seeing a definate Delorean there...still looks like natural reflections to me...also the window has more of a curve on the upper area, where as the Delorean has a more pronounced turn because of the straight eges. I can see how you might interpret it as the drop glass...but if that was the case, the trim would be visible.
Also if it was a real Porsche dealership they shot at, there most likely wouldn't be a Delorean there, unless its a customer's car.
I still say 924 or 944.
louielouie2000
08-10-2017, 11:54 AM
Also if it was a real Porsche dealership they shot at, there most likely wouldn't be a Delorean there, unless its a customer's car.
The dealership scene was shot at Beverly Hills Mercedes-Benz, which was indeed a DeLorean dealership in the early 1980s- I've even seen "Beverly Hills DeLorean" license plates & license plate frames on eBay.
papanoel
08-10-2017, 01:43 PM
To be honeest i don't see it. doesn't look like a delorean to me.
SamHill
08-10-2017, 02:32 PM
I don't see it. Could be a leprechaun. Could be a crackhead.
BladeBronson
08-10-2017, 06:28 PM
I'm even more convinced after making this: https://giphy.com/gifs/scarface-delorean-l41K4pBHzQZURwyNa
Michael
08-10-2017, 07:24 PM
Get your DeLorean soon. Values will skyrocket once the Montana connection is public.
Lwanmtr
08-10-2017, 07:38 PM
I still dont see it..your overlay isnt taking into account distance or angle of the vehicle..for it match up like that, it would have to be inside the building. I still think its the playing of reflections and light off the window of the car. Also have to figure on whats going on above, buidling facades, signs, etc.
I'm not saying its not...but I'm just not seeing it...plus given the contrast of shadow along the upper part of the window, the trim around the drop glass would be more obvious.
bytes311
08-10-2017, 07:54 PM
It's hard to tell from the video, but it does look like a toll window judging by the reflection of the cars passing behind.
BladeBronson
08-10-2017, 08:30 PM
I still dont see it..your overlay isnt taking into account distance or angle of the vehicle..for it match up like that, it would have to be inside the building.
Yep, it was a 10 minute quick Photoshop job. I suppose I could park my own car at just the right angle to try to convince you, but I think I'll pass. :)
I almost hate to admit how much time I spent looking at the building on Street View and comparing it to the movie. I first assumed that the car was parked outside on the street, but once I looked at the location on Street View I realized that because it's a two way street, the car would be facing the other way if it were parked outside. The sidewalk (at least now) is fairly wide, so I considered that it might have been a special display on the sidewalk. However, after looking at the building on Street View more closely, it appears that there are two showrooms between the street and where the scene in the movie was filmed. Notice the wide square pillars in both the movie and on Street View. Those pillars aren't part of the exterior wall. So, because of the direction that the car is facing and those pillars, I think the car (whatever car it is - probably a DeLorean) was inside.
SamHill
08-10-2017, 10:22 PM
Yep, it was a 10 minute quick Photoshop job. I suppose I could park my own car at just the right angle to try to convince you, but I think I'll pass. :)
I almost hate to admit how much time I spent looking at the building on Street View and comparing it to the movie. I first assumed that the car was parked outside on the street, but once I looked at the location on Street View I realized that because it's a two way street, the car would be facing the other way if it were parked outside. The sidewalk (at least now) is fairly wide, so I considered that it might have been a special display on the sidewalk. However, after looking at the building on Street View more closely, it appears that there are two showrooms between the street and where the scene in the movie was filmed. Notice the wide square pillars in both the movie and on Street View. Those pillars aren't part of the exterior wall. So, because of the direction that the car is facing and those pillars, I think the car (whatever car it is - probably a DeLorean) was inside.
Mark down 8/10/17 as the day we officially ran out of things to talk about.
DMCVegas
08-11-2017, 12:23 AM
I don't see it. Could be a leprechaun. Could be a crackhead.
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Gregadeth
08-11-2017, 05:51 AM
I'm even more convinced after making this: https://giphy.com/gifs/scarface-delorean-l41K4pBHzQZURwyNaHaha that is perfect!
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