Exhaust tips

[Trstno1]

Hey guys-

I have a generation 1 spec 1 DMC exhaust system. (mild steel that has been jet coated silver). I bought the system used from a member here a couple years back. First off, I want to say that a spec 1 exhaust over stock is a phenomenal upgrade! Unfortunately, at no fault of the seller, my package must have been dropped on its journey to AK and one of the tips were damaged in shipping. So basically I had 1 tip that was round while the other not so much. I hammered it out the best I could, but regrettably that tip would never be round again.... At first the bent up tip didn't bug me, but now that I have had the system installed for a couple years, it sure does now. Though most people don't notice it, I do every time I look at the car from the rear.

So... you guessed it..... I am looking to replace my exhaust tips. At first I just wanted replacement DMC spec 1 tips with the DMC printed on them, as I figured they would just be plug n play. However, the jury is still out with DMC regarding purchasing just the new tips.... I'm starting to think that either they don't want to sell them individually from the whole exhaust system, or the new generation of DMC spec 1 tips are not compatible with the old mild steel generation 1 tips. This due to the fact that I have not received either a call/email back yet with an answer either way for the better part of 2 weeks. They say they are working on finding out if the tips are offered separately...... Am I crazy to think that a company that sells an expensive exhaust system, should also sell each component that makes up that expensive exhaust system separately? I know crazy right...?!?

So....first I guess I should ask: does anyone have a set of generation 1 DMC mild steel exhaust tips that are in good shape for sale?

What I really wanted were these.....

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Unfortunately, It appears I may be forced in going with custom tips on my spec 1. Does anyone here have custom exhaust tips, and if so, how large did you go and what style? i.e., slanted, round, rolled..., What are they made out of? stainless steel, chrome, etc.....? If you have custom exhaust tips, please post a pic and a general description of the system and size(diameter). What about resonator tips? Would they cut down on the drone from highway speeds? I am also looking for any advice on what some of these tips will do with age and heat depending on what they are made of.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Just for reference a DMC spec 1 generation 1 tips are welded to a 2.375" 90 degree elbow that goes into the muffler. The tips themselves are 2.5" angle cut tips.

[sdg3205]

You're a little crazy. Lol. I would NOT expect any vendor to have individual parts of a whole exhaust system for sale except for maybe clamps and gaskets.

If i were you I'd take it to a GOOD muffler shop and have them weld on new tips of your liking.

OR

Toby recently was rear ended and his DMCH STAGE 1 system is toast. One tip might be salvageable though, you could call him up and ask?

[Delorean Industries]

You're a little crazy. Lol. I would NOT expect any vendor to have individual parts of a whole exhaust system for sale except for maybe clamps and gaskets.

If i were you I'd take it to a GOOD muffler shop and have them weld on new tips of your liking.

OR

Toby recently was rear ended and his DMCH STAGE 1 system is toast. One tip might be salvageable though, you could call him up and ask?


We stock stand alone replacement parts for our SPEC I system. :)

[sdg3205]

We stock stand alone replacement parts for our SPEC I system. :)

I stand corrected!

[Delorean Industries]

I stand corrected!

I just didn't want to get bunched into the bad inventory habits of others!

[DMCH James]

First to clarify, there is no such thing as a DMC Spec 1. Spec 1 is the term used by DPI - perhaps to create confusion in the marketplace, as seems to be the case here - while the original DMC Stage I (and Stage II/Stage III engine) terminology goes back to the year 2000/2001.

Over the last 15+ years, the design has evolved in different ways. It's very likely that the tips we use now will fit on the exhaust that you have - but they may not. In the event of an accident or your case, shipping damage, of course we have spare parts available.

As I understand it, you may have originally inquired of DMCMW - I just heard about this yesterday afternoon when Stephanie reached out to us to ask about it. Either that or there are two people wanting DMC logo tips now! I'm sorry that if you inquired of them two weeks ago and we were just asked about them by DMCMW. Feel free to reach out to me directly and we'll see what we can do for you...


Hey guys-

I have a generation 1 spec 1 DMC exhaust system. (mild steel that has been jet coated silver). I bought the system used from a member here a couple years back. First off, I want to say that a spec 1 exhaust over stock is a phenomenal upgrade! Unfortunately, at no fault of the seller, my package must have been dropped on its journey to AK and one of the tips were damaged in shipping. So basically I had 1 tip that was round while the other not so much. I hammered it out the best I could, but regrettably that tip would never be round again.... At first the bent up tip didn't bug me, but now that I have had the system installed for a couple years, it sure does now. Though most people don't notice it, I do every time I look at the car from the rear.

So... you guessed it..... I am looking to replace my exhaust tips. At first I just wanted replacement DMC spec 1 tips with the DMC printed on them, as I figured they would just be plug n play. However, the jury is still out with DMC regarding purchasing just the new tips.... I'm starting to think that either they don't want to sell them individually from the whole exhaust system, or the new generation of DMC spec 1 tips are not compatible with the old mild steel generation 1 tips. This due to the fact that I have not received either a call/email back yet with an answer either way for the better part of 2 weeks. They say they are working on finding out if the tips are offered separately...... Am I crazy to think that a company that sells an expensive exhaust system, should also sell each component that makes up that expensive exhaust system separately? I know crazy right...?!?

So....first I guess I should ask: does anyone have a set of generation 1 DMC mild steel exhaust tips that are in good shape for sale?

What I really wanted were these.....

54179

Unfortunately, It appears I may be forced in going with custom tips on my spec 1. Does anyone here have custom exhaust tips, and if so, how large did you go and what style? i.e., slanted, round, rolled..., What are they made out of? stainless steel, chrome, etc.....? If you have custom exhaust tips, please post a pic and a general description of the system and size(diameter). What about resonator tips? Would they cut down on the drone from highway speeds? I am also looking for any advice on what some of these tips will do with age and heat depending on what they are made of.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Just for reference a DMC spec 1 generation 1 tips are welded to a 2.375" 90 degree elbow that goes into the muffler. The tips themselves are 2.5" angle cut tips.


When you have a very small inventory, I would expect that it's easier to stock things. When you've got literally millions of parts, it's exponentially more difficult. That said, I think we do a pretty good job.


I just didn't want to get bunched into the bad inventory habits of others!

[Delorean Industries]

The difference is we have an inventory of desirable parts. Not 30,000 wiper motor units etc.

You can take your underperforming misrepresented "stage" terminology and shove it up your.....

[NckT]

I think it'd be better to keep responses professional and not get into a 'last post wins' situation. Instead of giving a bit of blinding to each other Sirs, it'll keep things simply lovely this way. Be seeing you :)

[Delorean Industries]

Nope.

[mr_maxime]

1982 exhaust tips are similar in shape to the stage 1 tips. You might be able to find 2 of them and have them fitted on.

[Trstno1]

Holy cow! I had no idea this was going to start a war. My apologies...

Please let it be known that I respect and appreciate all of the vendors I use to purchase parts from. The folks at DMCMW are wonderful. They are my go to DMC location for parts and as such I hope they did not take any offense to my original posting. They have been trying to get answers for me regarding the tips, I guess I was just not happy with the answer they were able to provide. I was just hoping they would be able to find me the tips. After all, that is what this post is all about.

As far as spec 1 vs stage 1......thats also my fault because I called it a spec 1 exhaust. My mistake. You must understand that sometimes this stuff gets a little confusing for the consumer. Spec 1 and stage 1 almost sounds identical.

So hopefully no harm done, and we can get on enjoying our cars.

[David T]

I am sure, if you find the right person/shop, the tip should be repairable. If not, one could be made or, just replace both. Probably the cheapest option and requires the least amount of skill (replacing both). You may not be able to find exactly the same ones but you should be able to find ones very close.

[Delorean Industries]

Holy cow! I had no idea this was going to start a war. My apologies...

Please let it be known that I respect and appreciate all of the vendors I use to purchase parts from. The folks at DMCMW are wonderful. They are my go to DMC location for parts and as such I hope they did not take any offense to my original posting. They have been trying to get answers for me regarding the tips, I guess I was just not happy with the answer they were able to provide. I was just hoping they would be able to find me the tips. After all, that is what this post is all about.

As far as spec 1 vs stage 1......thats also my fault because I called it a spec 1 exhaust. My mistake. You must understand that sometimes this stuff gets a little confusing for the consumer. Spec 1 and stage 1 almost sounds identical.

So hopefully no harm done, and we can get on enjoying our cars.

No harm! Just messing around!

[opethmike]

:popcorn:

[Josh]

but what if I need a wiper motor?! I bet DPI doesn't have any :poke:

[sdg3205]

but what if I need a wiper motor?! I bet DPI doesn't have any :poke:

Didn't you hear the announcement? Josh has a new, 100% stainless steel, forced-induction wiper motor coming out in 2018. It'll clean the glass right off your windshield! Ain't that right JB?!

[Jonathan]

but what if I need a wiper motor?! I bet DPI doesn't have any :poke:


Didn't you hear the announcement? Josh has a new, 100% stainless steel, forced-induction wiper motor coming out in 2018. It'll clean the glass right off your windshield! Ain't that right JB?!

Oh snap! But dude won't ship to Canada so we're all SOL...

[sdg3205]

Oh snap! But dude won't ship to Canada so we're all SOL...

Thats the real beauty about living so close to the states and having an American mailbox. I didn't even know DPI didn't ship to Canada. My buddy out here is going to order the full DPI suspension package soon and it'll also go to my mailbox.

[Josh]

I got some seat covers shipped to my door from DPI in August?

[Delorean Industries]

We ship to Canada all the time.... we just quote directly sonour online store shipping calculator makes it expensive.

[mr_maxime]

Didn't you hear the announcement? Josh has a new, 100% stainless steel, forced-induction wiper motor coming out in 2018. It'll clean the glass right off your windshield! Ain't that right JB?!


:rofl:

Truth be told, I'd be down for some SS wiper arms, especially if polished.

[opethmike]

Didn't you hear the announcement? Josh has a new, 100% stainless steel, forced-induction wiper motor coming out in 2018. It'll clean the glass right off your windshield! Ain't that right JB?!

And it will cost only $30,000!

[Delorean Industries]

And it will cost only $30,000!

Seriously though... Gauging interest in stainless wiper system.....

[Alex Brooks]

Seriously though... Gauging interest in stainless wiper system.....
I think stainless Wiper arms would look good. I'm not paying 30grand for them
lol

[DMCMW Dave]

I think stainless Wiper arms would look good.lol

Until you drive into the sun some afternoon.

[Delorean Industries]

I would be more concerned about applying the fight club monologue mathematics to the DMCH fuel pump "recall" than stainless wiper arms. The following taken from a reputable internet source:

"The Inane Explained"


"A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one."

So boiling it down, there are the four variables.
A. Number of vehicles
B. Probable rate of failure
C. Average out-of-court settlement
X. Cutoff number for a recall

Following the narrator's math, X<A*B*C or Recall<Vehicles*Probability*Settlement

Sounds terrible and mathematical right? If a business does this, we should boycott their clearly unethical behavior, right? Well, legally, this is not only ethical, but legal and expected behavior from any person.

Welcome, to the wonderful world of negligence law. In particular, the formula the narrator describes is a rephrased version of the "Calculus of Negligence" or Hand Test. Now, lawyer's typically aren't good at math, so leave it to them to make a very basic Algebraic formula "Calculus." Here there are three variables:

B. Burden of taking Precaution
P. Probability
L. Loss

Applied, this formula comes out as B<P*L or Burden<Probability*Loss.

Starting to look familiar? That's because this is the same formula the narrator rattled off. The probability multiplied by the number of the cars in the field gives you the total probability of loss in the field. The loss in this case is the average settlement, and as 97% of cases are settled out of court, using the average out of court settlement is completely fair.

So was the car company evil? That's completely debatable from a moral perspective. Granted, they didn't beat people half to death, but they didn't do a voluntary recall to save some lives. However, legally, they were completely in the right, as long as their math was right.

[DMC-81]

I would be more concerned about applying the fight club monologue mathematics to the DMCH fuel pump "recall" than stainless wiper arms. The following taken from a reputable internet source:

"The Inane Explained"



Josh, what exactly are you insinuating about DMCH's recall? As an affected customer, I feel they handled it promptly and professionally.

I read your post as an attempt to deflect the negative attention off yourself. Perhaps you can explain again the inane mathematics that went behind your business policy of excluding an entire country? To me, blacklisting the Canadians is like kicking your sweet grandmother in the shins. Eh?

[Delorean Industries]

We didn't black list Canadians. Just Quebec. Not sure where you are getting the all of Canada thing from. I was just responding to the insinuation that stainless wiper arms would pose a liability while driving with a current liability and the statistics behind it. And what negative attention? Didn't know joking about making 30k stainless wiper arms was negative??

[Iznodmad]

Wait a minute.....wasn't this about exhausts or exhaust tips or something? Anyone wanna buy a DPI SPEC I exhaust? I hear they are really nice? [emoji16]

[Shep]

For what it's worth, DMCH James page 1 directly confronted DPI Josh on the "inventory habits of others" bit, which let's be honest could be about Summit Racing even. I used to work for Summit, their inventory process is a crapshoot. Until that point in the thread, no vendor had poked a stick at any other vendor. Fuel to the fire.

Yes, the fuel pump recall is a bit haphazard, recalls always are. I don't know much more to comment on that, but from the snippets I have seen it looks messy. 559 had one of those pumps for a while, probably on your list somewhere, I can email the original owner's name to cross it off your list but would rather keep it off a public forum to respect the family. He's deceased, the son isn't in the community anymore, and the pump died in a tank of bad gas, so it's safe to cross off the list.

DPI not shipping to Canada? He's openly said he does already, as for why not Quebec, I'll let him answer that. From my conversations with Josh, it wasn't an easy choice, it was a series of bad business deals that forced him to go that route. Frankly if that was my company it was happening to, I'd call it fraud but that's just me. I'm just hoping that as my company grows, the BS doesn't!

Again, not really taking sides here, just, as a up-and-coming guy, my stance at some point will become relevant. Thankfully I won't be a "vendor", but making parts for the niche yes I will be involved in some form.

[DMC-81]

We didn't black list Canadians. Just Quebec. Not sure where you are getting the all of Canada thing from. I was just responding to the insinuation that stainless wiper arms would pose a liability while driving with a current liability and the statistics behind it. And what negative attention? Didn't know joking about making 30k stainless wiper arms was negative??

Well, your Canadian customer base apparently doesn't know that then. I believe their confusion came from this post:


Clearly stated "politely" that we could not help you with your requests. Even went as far as to give you advice on where to Look. I have grown tired of Quebec as a whole seeing how the limited number of owners are batting 1000 collectively in regards to being condescending, demanding, entitled and above reason or recourse. This is why I have blocked this region and will not deal with the customer base. Our site will not accept orders and calls are not forwarded from your country. All service work is also refused.

From this thread:
http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?11247-DPI-Delorean-Performance-Industries-No-response

Perhaps a constructive communication to clarify and try to amend the apparently negative goodwill from them would be preferable to perpetuating the mudslinging against another vendor.


Seriously though... Gauging interest in stainless wiper system.....

Joking about stainless wiper arms? You seriously asked about customer demand. I almost commented about the obvious reflectivity earlier. There is a reason why every known wiper arm is black.....so you left yourself open for that one.

And, yes.... back to the original topic of exhaust tips.

[Delorean Industries]

The arms would be nitride coated black... the idea is to have a non rusting component evening if it has a finish applied after for cosmetics. We powder coat our stainless rock screens....

And I clearly stated Quebec in that quote above. We ship orders to Canada every day.

[Rich_NYS]

I want slash-cut tips that slip on....

[Shep]

Are we still talking exhaust there Rich or fingers? Halloween's coming up you know :freddy:

[sdg3205]

We're talking about tips.

Just the tip.

Someone please give him just the tip.

Lol.

[opethmike]

Oh hai guys, how's it going?

[Alex Brooks]

The arms would be nitride coated black... the idea is to have a non rusting component evening if it has a finish applied after for cosmetics. We powder coat our stainless rock screens....

And I clearly stated Quebec in that quote above. We ship orders to Canada every day.

If they were to be Brushed SS I can’t see them reflecting any more than the rest of the car. Polished stainless yeah that would shine but I’ve seen trucks for chrome wiper arms before .

[Rich_NYS]

hahaha!

[Shep]

If they were to be Brushed SS I can’t see them reflecting any more than the rest of the car. Polished stainless yeah that would shine but I’ve seen trucks for chrome wiper arms before .To be fair, this is still extreme at the right angle. Ask my 2nd floor wall-to-wall window boss why I needed to face with the hood away from him for a few years. He loved the car (as did the cops that would park and stare), but not when it was sunny out and he couldn't see his own screens.

Laser etched DMC logos, what's next on exhaust tips? Can we get super ridiculous and make them into the DMC shape to fit on a Kia? Asking for science.

[mr_maxime]

If we're back on the topic of being blinded in the delorean. I'd kill for some damn modern swiveling sunvisors that don't deform in the heat.

I drive directly East to go to work and West back home. Sun directly in my field of view is way worse than any other possibility.

[sdg3205]

If we're back on the topic of being blinded in the delorean. I'd kill for some damn modern swiveling sunvisors that don't deform in the heat.

I drive directly East to go to work and West back home. Sun directly in my field of view is way worse than any other possibility.

Gauging interest in stainless sun visors...

[mr_maxime]

Gauging interest in stainless sun visors...

I'll only take it if it's cut out like the openings inside the doors

[Shep]

If we're back on the topic of being blinded in the delorean. I'd kill for some damn modern swiveling sunvisors that don't deform in the heat.

I drive directly East to go to work and West back home. Sun directly in my field of view is way worse than any other possibility.On my list of upcomings! :) Taller too, fold-down or slide-out.

Bring on the competition! Would love to be beaten to the punch on this one, it's more foreign to me than my other projects I've already prototyped, but I'll do it if no one else gets to it.

[Trstno1]

OK guys -

I ended up finding some tips and taking them to a local shop to get welded on. You can tell from the photos how I had one tip that was damaged, thus the need for replacement. I ended up purchasing 2.5" inlet to 3" outlet slant cut rolled edge 304 stainless steel exhaust tips that were 6.5" long. Though they don't say DMC on them, I think they turned out quite well. What do you think?





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[David T]

The new ones look great but I still say the original, bent one could have been straightened out by someone who knows what he is doing.

[DMC-81]

OK guys -

I ended up finding some tips and taking them to a local shop to get welded on. You can tell from the photos how I had one tip that was damaged, thus the need for replacement. I ended up purchasing 2.5" inlet to 3" outlet slant cut rolled edge 304 stainless steel exhaust tips that were 6.5" long. Though they don't say DMC on them, I think they turned out quite well. What do you think?



They look great! :thumbup: