New Owner Build

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In February I picked up this car that was last registered in '99, not running, but otherwise in great shape with low miles. Going to get it on the road and see if the chassis is as fun as it looks. If so, it will likely get a motor swap as I have a problem with keeping things stock and like to be drunk with power. lol

I'll update this thread as time goes on, but daily updates are made on instagram at @lamborfuucckinghini

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it's in good company

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first meeting of my cars

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new parts

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Original brake calipers are seized. Now for the fun . . . F355 brakes. First up, new wheels. Going to be running square set up.

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New wheels back from powdercoating

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Tires courtesy of Toyo

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New wheels powder coated and 235/50R15 R888r added.

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Have some KW's en route to clean up that ride height

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fixed the broken antenna and saved some weight

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Doesn't look too bad for sitting for 20 years

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These showed up from KW . . . now I can kill the pre-runner stance.

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Oh, and working on those new brakes. Stock front wheels definitely won't work

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Front:

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Rear:

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Onto the car . . .

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This car is seriously low

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There is a lot of work to do to get this set up to work, but this is a good start. It ended up getting over 4" of drop when KW advertises a 1.3" drop.

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Onto more updates. . .

My fabricator just so happens to be a suspension engineer. He took a quick look at the front of the car and noted that the front wheels should be moved rearward to provide adequate clearance and based on the design of the front suspension, the sway bar doubles as a torsion bar, he added some spacers to it and the wheels/tires now clear the fender. Much easier to gain clearance than what we were expecting.

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He also raised it a bit:

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He went ahead and rolled all the fenders for extra clearance.

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He is also making some brackets to allow 1-2 degrees of camber on the front. Will obviously help with handling, but also will help give even more clearance for the front tire.

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When lowering the car to this level, the front tires end up with 1 degree of negative camber. By modifying the upper control arm, we were able to get 3.5 degrees of negative camber at this level (can go with less camber) and sill able to service the joints. For reference the rear is at 3 degree of negative camber without any adjustment. If the car was higher, the degree of negative camber would be decreased.

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Is there any interest in negative camber adjustment for the front? We can make plates to allow DIY modification or the upper arms could be sent to the fabricator for modification.

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Upper control arm modified with a reinforcement plate.
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New OEM brake master vs. old.
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New seal and reservoir are on order.
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Here is the final product for front fitment:

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Rear wheel spacers on order. Hope to have the Ferrari calipers & AP rotors on next week sometime.

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Rear spacers came in.

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Quite happy with the set up.

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DeLorean made a little cameo in a friend's video.

And yes, that is a Toyota Starlet powered by a Hayabusa motor.

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[Timeless]

Great work. I love the 15" wheels on the front - such a terrific look.

[vwdmc16]

Awesome work! Glad you could get those big front tires to fit. I'm running very tight clearance on my front tires at a simular ride height but 205 50 15s and just -1.0 camber.


Spacing the LCA rearward will give you clearance but it will also remove caster and make it feel less stable at higher speed. I recommend moving the upper arm rearward too. I'd be curious what your alignment numbers are first.

Keep up the nice work. Looking forward to the Ferrari brakes.

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New brakes are under way.

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Front done

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onto the rear

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Fronts mounted ... and fit with plenty of room to spare

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Rear rotors with spacers

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Fabrication for all the brakes are now complete. So here are some shots.

Front rotor comparison:
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on the car comparison:
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Rear rotor comparison:
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on the car comparison:
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Rear brake bracket was a nightmare to make, but the machinist was able to come up with a solution.
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Completed rear suspension, brake, wheel and tire assembly
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In other news, the Viper had a u-joint strap fail on a WOT 1-2 shift and took out an axle and the rear diff. So 3 of my 4 cars are officially in the air.

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It's ALIVE!!!!

... and hilarious to drive. Need to get a few things in working order, but going to get some miles on it in hopes that they "self correct"

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Took the DMC out for lunch today, it was all good. Such an easy car to drive.

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On the way home, hit a big bump and a few hundred feet later it dies. Definitely fuel related.

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Talk to my buddy who got it road worthy and explained how there was a part of the fuse box with a melted housing for a 20AMP fuse and thought that was the likely issue, he threw in a spare 20AMP fuse in case there was a future issue. I check it and bingo, fuse popped.

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New fuse in and I'm off. 4 miles down the road it popped again.

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Something moved when I hit that bump and is grounding out the fuse for the fuel pump. Time to hunt that down.

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[AugustneverEnds]

Fuse #7 is notorious for melting the fuse block. A lot of us use an inline fuse holder in #7 to help reduce the heat buildup. Sorry she stranded you but you got home safely and it sounds like you have a good handle on what's going on.

[Bitsyncmaster]

The fuel pump fuse has popped with one owner because his frequency valve shorted. Another common problem is the WUR heater shorts but often that does not pop the fuse mostly because the wiring to it is small gauge wire and it does not draw enough current to drive the fuse past it blow current. The fuel pumps draw about 7 amps and the lambda and FV only add about another 2 amps. The WRU heater is less than 1 amp.

You can pull the WUR heater connector to maybe get a chance to get you home if that happens on the road somewhere.

[David T]

The fuel pump fuse has popped with one owner because his frequency valve shorted. Another common problem is the WUR heater shorts but often that does not pop the fuse mostly because the wiring to it is small gauge wire and it does not draw enough current to drive the fuse past it blow current. The fuel pumps draw about 7 amps and the lambda and FV only add about another 2 amps. The WRU heater is less than 1 amp.

You can pull the WUR heater connector to maybe get a chance to get you home if that happens on the road somewhere.

Only if the fuel pump is in good shape. When it is going bad it can draw a lot more. Add to that bad/dirty/corroded connections and that is why you see a lot of Deloreans with fuse position #7 melted out and an in-line fuse holder for that circuit. A fuse is supposed to be rated to take 75% of it's rating as a continuous current so when you get to 15 amps and above you are going to melt things. Leaving the cover on the fuse block only makes things worse.

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Yeah, it was the frequency valve. Deleted it and installed a fitting with a .009 hole to mimic the valve. Up and running again.

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DMC is back from the detailer, who did an especially great job with the glass and revived the louvers.

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Cruising along

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DMC is back from the detailer, who did an especially great job with the glass and revived the louvers.

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Cruising along

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Looking good. How did they revive the louvers? Paint or otherwise?

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Looking good. How did they revive the louvers? Paint or otherwise?

I'll ask the detailer what he used, but it some sort of product. Apparently it needs multiple applications for the plastic to fully absorb it.

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Did you ever find out what the detailer used on the louvers?


I'll ask the detailer what he used, but it some sort of product. Apparently it needs multiple applications for the plastic to fully absorb it.

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Did you ever find out what the detailer used on the louvers?

Solution Finish - Black Trim Restorer
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He said to clean and prep the plastic as much as possible so the restorer bonds to the plastic.

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I use Solution Finish on all the rub strips. Looks great and lasts a long time. Prep is simply rubbing the surface down with isopropyl alcohol.

I did get caught in rain storm days after applying Solution Finish and I had black rain trails all running down the side of the lower stainless from the rub strip. Didn't think much about it at the time believing it would clean up easily...I was wrong. Had to use BKF to get rid of the black rain. It really got into the recently cleaned stainless grain and wouldn't let go using other cleaners. Won't stop me from using it again.

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The detailer revived the front bumper and lip plastic. Big improvement in how the car looks.

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[Josh]

Typical dmctalk. You just made a one off uprated brake setup for your car, among other things but you get more replies with a melted fuse and shined up louvers!

Glad to see you on here. Lets shove an LS in there now...

[opethmike]

For real though; dude puts f'ing FERRARI brakes on his car, and people care more about some fuse and some detailing? No wonder so much of this community fall for unsubstantiated claims for PRV "performance" parts.

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Typical dmctalk. You just made a one off uprated brake setup for your car, among other things but you get more replies with a melted fuse and shined up louvers!

Glad to see you on here. Lets shove an LS in there now...

There is a V6TT available that would look rad in the engine bay. But I want to drive the car a while as-is to see if I enjoy it enough to cannonball into that rabbit hole.


Here's my last LS swap

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[Mark D]

I've been following this build with great interest here and over on DMCToday.com. Lots more discussion over there for the most part.

Epic build so far and can't wait to see what else is in store for this car. :aniclap:

[Ron]

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+1 !!!

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Just put up a fun story on instagram @lamborfuckinghini

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roofline is at door handle height

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Also, it drives . . .

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Replaced the sealed beams with H1 & H4 Hella units.

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Then hunting down the radio power issue. After hunting through wiring, plugging in things that were unplugged I checked the in-line fuses behind the dash and they were blown. Getting new fuses tomorrow and hoping for the best.

[Timeless]

Utilize LED bulbs?

[Nicholas R]

Typical dmctalk. You just made a one off uprated brake setup for your car, among other things but you get more replies with a melted fuse and shined up louvers!

Glad to see you on here. Lets shove an LS in there now...

This right here^

Seriously, give this some thought. We can help you get the power you need.

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This right here^

Seriously, give this some thought. We can help you get the power you need.

There is a V6TT that should be very interesting for the DMC. LS is always a good option though.

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Took the cars out to a euro show

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someone took a pic of the Murci and randomly grabbed a pic of my girlfriend and I

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Vogue

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[Timeless]

Great to see "the shoes". Haven't seen those in a while.

[Henrik]

Hey white out!
I sent you a PM. Please check.

Thanks,

Henrik

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It's been a while since I've updated this thread. So here we go.

Car hasn't moved in months as I don't know how much longer the TOB has before it completely lets go.
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There are three of us working on the car, me and the two guys that built this monster
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Parts acquired for the build:

996.2 6 speed with LSD
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Turbos (that cost more than a nice LS)
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Noise makers
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One-off throttle body
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Not pictured: engine fuel system, wiring harness, stand alone ECU, etc.

Finalizing the remainder of parts that need to be sourced or fabricated without the car, then we get to dig into the DMC.

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[Michael]

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Nice!

[dmc4087]

Looking forward to seeing this progress.

[David T]

All of this modification looks very interesting (read expensive) and I reserve judgement until you put some miles on it. Not only must you be able to fabricate or obtain all of this, you need to make it reliable and safe. For example you may need a proportioning valve to balance the brakes. Play with the air pressures, shock adjustments and height adjustments till you get the suspension tuned in. It is not just making things fit, you must make everything work correctly together. So far the work looks very professional. If and when you do the engine swap you will have to redo all of your suspension adjustments to compensate for the difference in weight and power. As for the TAB's, with the increased braking power and the larger tires you are just putting that much more stress on those TAB's. They should at least be inspected to see if they are loose or bent. To adjust the rear toe you must loosen them and remove or insert shims anyway. Because you lowered the car you need to check the camber in the rear too. Most owners who have lowered their car wound up making or buying adjustable lower links. All of these mods affect handling. If you drive the car slowly and carefully you won't get near the limits of handling BUT, if you start driving it hard you may notice you have induced some very bad characteristics. Because the Delorean has a very high polar moment of inertia due to it's rear engine design, if the suspension and brakes are not set up properly you can quickly lose control. I am not saying you should not try to improve the car, I am just pointing out that any mods should be done safely. You should also document all of the parts and changes so in the future, if you need anything, you know what you did and where you got it.

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guru'd!

[Michael]

guru'd!

LOL. I especially love the condescending tone he wrote all that with. Dude has taken great care to do the job right and spared no expense to do it. Perhaps if he moved the project Dunmurry and had a bunch of unskilled guys who used hand tools to assemble a production car, then maybe the guru would be satisfied with the level of safety and reliability achieved. With the level of care and amount of thought and planning this guy has put into it, I would trust this guys car at 140mph before I would ANY stock DeLorean at any speed approaching that.




... and I reserve judgement until you put some miles on it. Not only must you be able to fabricate or obtain all of this, you need to make it reliable and safe.

I guess you will just have to go on without the guru's blessing or judgement on your awesome progress.

[MrChocky]

I guess you will just have to go on without the guru's blessing or judgement on your awesome progress.

V8 D for sale. But who knows what sins are in the engine bay and under the paint.

https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/cto/d/west-palm-beach-1981-delorean-red-56k/7072540300.html



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All of this modification looks very interesting (read expensive) and I reserve judgement until you put some miles on it. Not only must you be able to fabricate or obtain all of this, you need to make it reliable and safe. For example you may need a proportioning valve to balance the brakes. Play with the air pressures, shock adjustments and height adjustments till you get the suspension tuned in. It is not just making things fit, you must make everything work correctly together. So far the work looks very professional. If and when you do the engine swap you will have to redo all of your suspension adjustments to compensate for the difference in weight and power. As for the TAB's, with the increased braking power and the larger tires you are just putting that much more stress on those TAB's. They should at least be inspected to see if they are loose or bent. To adjust the rear toe you must loosen them and remove or insert shims anyway. Because you lowered the car you need to check the camber in the rear too. Most owners who have lowered their car wound up making or buying adjustable lower links. All of these mods affect handling. If you drive the car slowly and carefully you won't get near the limits of handling BUT, if you start driving it hard you may notice you have induced some very bad characteristics. Because the Delorean has a very high polar moment of inertia due to it's rear engine design, if the suspension and brakes are not set up properly you can quickly lose control. I am not saying you should not try to improve the car, I am just pointing out that any mods should be done safely. You should also document all of the parts and changes so in the future, if you need anything, you know what you did and where you got it.

If you’ve made it this far through the build and are “reserving judgment” then just stop now. You clearly cannot appreciate ingenuity, quality parts (purchased and built) or the fact that I already posted that the suspension was built by a suspension engineer. But thanks for spewing your generalized knowledge about suspensions and brakes without actually having an iota of technical reference.

You actually used the phrase “polar moment of inertia” (wow. just wow.), how many DMC’s and 911’s have you stuffed into ditches?

As for documenting the parts, that’s what’s going on here…

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Just for reference, the DMC should be slightly easier to drive than the widowmaker I use as my daily driver ... Which we intentionally initiate rotation with a hydraulic hand brake and upon "transition" counter the spin with steering and throttle input. This too has a rearward weight bias.

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[Michael]

Just for reference, the DMC should be slightly easier to drive than the widowmaker I use as my daily driver ... Which we intentionally initiate rotation with a hydraulic hand brake and upon "transition" counter the spin with steering and throttle input. This too has a rearward weight bias.

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I hope to see pics of your DeLorean power drifting before I die.

[powerline84]

If you’ve made it this far through the build and are “reserving judgment” then just stop now. You clearly cannot appreciate ingenuity, quality parts (purchased and built) or the fact that I already posted that the suspension was built by a suspension engineer. But thanks for spewing your generalized knowledge about suspensions and brakes without actually having an iota of technical reference.

You actually used the phrase “polar moment of inertia” (wow. just wow.), how many DMC’s and 911’s have you stuffed into ditches?

As for documenting the parts, that’s what’s going on here…

Hahaha you have been guru'd . ...don't worry it's happened to all of us. Don't know if you realize this but since your car isn't stock it's just completely useless . Mine as well burn it. ..


Bad ass stuff you have done with this car man. !

[Riley88]

This car will amazing.

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Original radio is dead . . . wanted to keep it OEM. However, I have always loved the Alpine units of this era so it's getting a bit of an upgrade with the best of 30 year old technology. :rofl:

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In other news, I was able to get all the interior dash lights working, the Lucas rheostat was bad (no *****? :lol:).

[Michael]

Original radio is dead . . . wanted to keep it OEM. However, I have always loved the Alpine units of this era so it's getting a bit of an upgrade with the best of 30 year old technology. :rofl:

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compared to stock:

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In other news, I was able to get all the interior dash lights working, the Lucas rheostat was bad (no *****? :lol:).

A member here rebuilds OE stereos and can add a bluetooth setup if you desire. That said a classic grewn 6 button Alpine just screams 80's.

[Riley88]

I have a good conditon, with working screen craig radio that was in my car. I will probably be upgrading mine again to a McIntosh here soon. Stuck playing keeping up with the jones's with my other 2 local owners lol

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Nest stage has begun

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[Nicholas R]

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[MrChocky]

I have a good conditon, with working screen craig radio that was in my car. I will probably be upgrading mine again to a McIntosh here soon. Stuck playing keeping up with the jones's with my other 2 local owners lolAnd if one's name were Mr Jones, which model would one have of McIntosh?

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[Michael]

I have heard through various sources that David T is still reserving judgement.

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reinforced and removable rear crossmember in

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Front suspension out for new bushings and clean up while driveline parts are fabricated.

[TheStoot]

Wow man you are cruisin right along with this thing! I'm loving it all so far! I'm still waiting for the shop to get mine running right STOCK so that I can drive it for the first time! Keep up the great work your doing!:)

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Wow man you are cruisin right along with this thing! I'm loving it all so far! I'm still waiting for the shop to get mine running right STOCK so that I can drive it for the first time! Keep up the great work your doing!:)

Thanks!

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LCA boxed in. Kept the weight down.

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[Riley88]

LCA boxed in. Kept the weight down.

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Very clean box in, looks great!

[Michael]

My LCA's are boxed in too, but they don't look that awesome.

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The shop is doing a YouTube build profile on the car as well if you want to see video coverage of my posts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGyfZSoeT6E



My LCA's are boxed in too, but they don't look that awesome.

The fabricator I work with has some serious skill.

[Maritime-elf]

What are you going to do with the old engine? in an earlier post you said you do not want to keep it stock?

[JETS 81 DMC]

What are you going to do with the old engine? in an earlier post you said you do not want to keep it stock?

He has it for sale:
http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?18367-Engine-amp-Manual-Trans

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What are you going to do with the old engine? in an earlier post you said you do not want to keep it stock?

Like JETS 81 DMC said, the entire turn-key driveline is for sale.

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Some shots of the completed intake manifold and port fuel injection conversion

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Suspension completely revamped.

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Radiator and Fans have arrived.

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Onto what you came here to see . . .
Engine / Transmission adapter is complete.

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Since the engine and trans are together, the drivetrain can be mocked up in the car.

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[Alex Brooks]

How did I miss this awesome thread?? that Delorean is going to be excellent !!!!!

[Michael]

How did I miss this awesome thread?? that Delorean is going to be excellent !!!!!

I'm reserving judgement till it gets the David T stamp of approval.

[Rich_NYS]

Excellent thread...really looking forward to seeing the test run.

The LCA's look pretty cool. Do you have a template you're willing to share?

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Excellent thread...really looking forward to seeing the test run.

The LCA's look pretty cool. Do you have a template you're willing to share?
Thanks!

There's no template, but the fabricator will make them for anyone interested and can install new bushings. It's not free, but reasonable. PM me if you want more info.

[Rich_NYS]

Thanks!

There's no template, but the fabricator will make them for anyone interested and can install new bushings. It's not free, but reasonable. PM me if you want more info.Cool, thanks. I'll get with when I reach that point with 4519.

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Little update

New cooling system & A/C system

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Remote oil cooler & filter

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Some random pics

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[AZ-D]

Literally...favorite D ever! Keep it up!

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[Kukem]

Wow! Love this thread. I am nowhere near skilled enough to do anything of this sort, but it is fascinating to follow those of you who can. Keep it up!

[Michael]

Been watching the Youtube channel of this build. The custom coolant pipes alone are just nuts!

This has got to be the most insane D mod/build I have ever seen and the documentation is top notch. Those youtube videos your shop is doing put any "reality" show DeLorean resto/build episode to shame.

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Been watching the Youtube channel of this build. The custom coolant pipes alone are just nuts!

This has got to be the most insane D mod/build I have ever seen and the documentation is top notch. Those youtube videos your shop is doing put any "reality" show DeLorean resto/build episode to shame.

Thanks!

They really do a good job with their videography. I like how they show some technical details that most builds skip over.

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Current status:

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[dmc4087]

Fantastic work, love that last image of the centre exhaust

[Victor]

Twin turbo! What a beautiful engine!Wonderful work!
👍🏼

[EngineerGuY]

Amazing work!! Following this for sure. Keep it up, on the edge of my seat over here hahaha. :thumbup:

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[AZ-D]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50631325671_e12cc4d814_c.jpgAmazing!

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[ZLoftsgard]

Wow. Amazing work on this Delorean. Tons of talent poured into this thing. Great job!!!

[Timeless]

Just stumbled on the YT videos yesterday -this build is fantastic. That engine looks perfect in the bay, as you mentioned it would. That intake manifold is my favorite. I love the clean look and the OE-like design. Can't wait to see it completed!

[mr_maxime]

This was linked on another thread and I'm also disappointed I missed this. Then i saw the title which really doesnt do the build justice. Not going to lie though, the LCAs don't match the rest of the massive amount of work. Custom Ferrari brakes and kw suspension followed by boxed in stock LCAs lol. I should probably reserve judgment until after David T though.

On a serious note, you had sold me on those kw coilover already. I even got some purple metallic powder for my brake calipers to match when j put those on. Also, do you just have an 80s dream car garage??

[Quinn]

This was linked on another thread and I'm also disappointed I missed this. Then i saw the title which really doesnt do the build justice. Not going to lie though, the LCAs don't match the rest of the massive amount of work. Custom Ferrari brakes and kw suspension followed by boxed in stock LCAs lol. I should probably reserve judgment until after David T though.

On a serious note, you had sold me on those kw coilover already. I even got some purple metallic powder for my brake calipers to match when j put those on. Also, do you just have an 80s dream car garage??

You're not the only one that had the same thought about the stock LCAs, but the rest of the build is PHENOMENAL!

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I know there is a lot of concern around the LCA because of 'the video'. But the design of the LCA, while not the best, is not bad ... if coilovers are used as there is no longer a spring connected directly to the LCA and the bushings aren't shot. The factory LCA is also fairly lightweight. So, aside from creating a tubular LCA with different mounting points this is a decent option with all things considered.

[Josh]

I know there is a lot of concern around the LCA because of 'the video'. But the design of the LCA, while not the best, is not bad ... if coilovers are used as there is no longer a spring connected directly to the LCA and the bushings aren't shot. The factory LCA is also fairly lightweight. So, aside from creating a tubular LCA with different mounting points this is a decent option with all things considered.

Nick, I strongly encourage you to reconsider. When I fabricated and installed outriggers on my LCA it made a world of difference. Not just under braking, but vibrations at speed, acceleration, and handling in general.

[Nicholas R]

Nick, I strongly encourage you to reconsider. When I fabricated and installed outriggers on my LCA it made a world of difference. Not just under braking, but vibrations at speed, acceleration, and handling in general.

I have to say, I agree with Josh. If I were to look back at every upgrade I've either made or seen on the market in the last 15 years, I would say that the highest value upgrade is the front LCA brackets. I am still always amazed at the difference when I hop into a car that doesn't have them.

[MrChocky]

I have to say, I agree with Josh. If I were to look back at every upgrade I've either made or seen on the market in the last 15 years, I would say that the highest value upgrade is the front LCA brackets. I am still always amazed at the difference when I hop into a car that doesn't have them.

Noted. $400 I don't have, but noted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nd7MVPKDbA

Install looks pretty straightforward too, if not entirely trivial.

[Timeless]

$400 is nothing considering we're all driving 40 year old cars - especially since it's a great upgrade.

[Bitsyncmaster]

I have to say, I agree with Josh. If I were to look back at every upgrade I've either made or seen on the market in the last 15 years, I would say that the highest value upgrade is the front LCA brackets. I am still always amazed at the difference when I hop into a car that doesn't have them.

Replacing my LCAs with the old Peirce SS ones stopped the steering wheel shake I always had around 60 MPH. Now was it the new bushings or the LCAs your guess is as good as mine.

[mr_maxime]

I really want to see LCAs with outriggers built in. The self driving dmc had something like that.

When I see the outriggers I can't help but think "run Forrest run!"

[Josh]

I really want to see LCAs with outriggers built in. The self driving dmc had something like that.

When I see the outriggers I can't help but think "run Forrest run!"


I really want to see LCAs with outriggers built in. The self driving dmc had something like that.

Ive made some concepts, but nothing physically.

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DOM / sheetmetal

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Billet aluminum

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[Quinn]

In addition to the rock solid feeling, another thing I really like about the DPI LCAs is the ability to center the tire in the wheel arch. It doesn't look like you would have that ability with some of these built-in outrigger designs. Although, I realize that using your fender panel fitment to dictate wheel position is probably not scientifically ideal. You could very well end up with one tire significantly farther forward (or behind) than the other, depending on how the symmetrical the two fenders were installed.

[David T]

Replacing my LCAs with the old Peirce SS ones stopped the steering wheel shake I always had around 60 MPH. Now was it the new bushings or the LCAs your guess is as good as mine.

The shake would be because of worn parts and/or an out of balance wheel. The LCA is stiff enough that it should not have been the cause of the shake. The worst part of the front suspension design is how the sway bar is also supposed to transmit the braking forces into the frame. The LCA by itself can't handle it and there is no tie bar like in most other double wishbone suspensions. This was Colin Chapman's way to make a part do multiple things to save some weight and "add lightness". He did not over design things and never expected them to live so long.

[Michael]

Before going the route of trying new LCA's and outriggers to solve your steering wheel jitters, try replacing those 10-15 yr. old tires with the newly avaliable Hankooks.

[Rich_NYS]

DPI outriggers look pretty good, I saw a set recently. They appear adjustable.

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[Josh]

In addition to the rock solid feeling, another thing I really like about the DPI LCAs is the ability to center the tire in the wheel arch. It doesn't look like you would have that ability with some of these built-in outrigger designs. Although, I realize that using your fender panel fitment to dictate wheel position is probably not scientifically ideal. You could very well end up with one tire significantly farther forward (or behind) than the other, depending on how the symmetrical the two fenders were installed.

The only thing centering the wheel in the well is the sway bar. And it does a poor job of it. Other factors come into play like the actual alignment of the fender to the underbody. The ride height of your car will make any mis-alignment even more noticeable.

All LCA offerings are the stock design, just made of different materials. They offer no performance upgrade what so ever other than they are less likely to fail, and this is what sets them apart from each other. All the mounting points are in the same place. if the car feels more solid with just a new set of LCAs and no outriggers it is because your bushings and/or ball joints in the previous arms were worn out.

Im not trying to push any product of mine, in fact i hope a vendor makes a A-arm style LCA so I can just buy a set easily and not bother fabricating them. There have been promises over the years. I am currently running the DPI LCAs. I have the current aluminum version, I have run their stainless arms in the past. I have also run boxed stock arms. All had excessive vibrations before I installed outriggers. All cars are different, of course alignment and tire condition will also play into a steering wheel vibration. It seems like all Deloreans have a vibration to some extent unfortunately.

[Josh]

It would be nice if a mod could split this out into its own thread so we are not cluttering up Nicks!

[Malevy]

Im not trying to push any product of mine, in fact i hope a vendor makes a A-arm style LCA so I can just buy a set easily and not bother fabricating them. There have been promises over the years. I am currently running the DPI LCAs. I have the current aluminum version, I have run their stainless arms in the past. I have also run boxed stock arms. All had excessive vibrations before I installed outriggers. All cars are different, of course alignment and tire condition will also play into a steering wheel vibration. It seems like all Deloreans have a vibration to some extent unfortunately.

Been asking for a good A style LCA for 20+ years.. Maybe that is why I never hear from Grady anymore??

[Josh]

Been asking for a good A style LCA for 20+ years.. Maybe that is why I never hear from Grady anymore??

Maybe its because you didnt say PLEASE!!!

[Malevy]

Maybe its because you didnt say PLEASE!!!

Josh, PLEASE make a true A frame LCA..

Thank you.

[Josh]

Josh, PLEASE make a true A frame LCA..

Thank you.

Finally! the magic word.

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[Michael]

Wouldn't surprise me to see this thing in major magazine publications in the near future.

The documentation on this build is intense!

[Helirich]

God, I love threads like this! Can't wait for more.

[Timeless]

White out, are you doing anything to eliminate the original exhaust cutouts on the rear fascia? making a custom piece?
Anything special required to run the 15" wheels on the front? I love the look.

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White out, are you doing anything to eliminate the original exhaust cutouts on the rear fascia? making a custom piece?
Anything special required to run the 15" wheels on the front? I love the look.

No plans to change the bumper. The cutouts are small and flow with the lower vents.

For running 15" on the front the front sway bar to LCA connection needs to be spaced to center the wheel in the wheel arch otherwise it will catch on the air dam/front fender.

[Mark D]

I'm jonesin for an update, anything new going on with this car?

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I'm jonesin for an update, anything new going on with this car?

Still working on it. Nothing super exciting to take pictures of (tuning & wiring) but OMD should have a video coming soon.

In the meantime I put headers on my daily driver Ferrari 575M which made a significant power bump and turned the volume up to 11.

https://youtu.be/zTB3MZnrGiU

[Mark D]

Still working on it. Nothing super exciting to take pictures of (tuning & wiring) but OMD should have a video coming soon.

In the meantime I put headers on my daily driver Ferrari 575M which made a significant power bump and turned the volume up to 11.

https://youtu.be/zTB3MZnrGiU

Cool, thanks for the update. In the meantime I rewatched the youtube videos from OMD. It's such a great build.

[Mark D]

Here's the latest video update from OMD. :yesss:

I might have to get one of those shirts...lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEf6QZ14USw

[Josh]

This is awesome. That car is putting down some serious power, especially considering its on a mustang dyno.
I need to hurry up, put my car back together and see if I can keep up!!

Great job Nick and OMD!

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This is awesome. That car is putting down some serious power, especially considering its on a mustang dyno.
I need to hurry up, put my car back together and see if I can keep up!!

Great job Nick and OMD!

Thanks! You're the only other one in this power range (except for the delusional claims made by many owner turbo/swapped cars),

The dyno a Dyno Dynamics twin brake. . . heartbreaker. For reference (since dynos are calibrated differently), this dyno registered 405whp for a Ferrari 458 (570hp) and the DMC put down 487whp. My LP640 put down 612whp on this and I went to another dyno where it made 100whp more. So the figures are quite conservative.

Weighed the car with a full tank and its at 2724lbs.

[Michael]

Absolutely stunning build!

Almost as powerful as mine but I realize we can't all have stage II automatics.

[Helirich]

I have to ask, (Josh also) is that in danger of popping a wheelie?

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I have to ask, (Josh also) is that in danger of popping a wheelie?

The initial bite the tires need probably won't allow for it as I expect copious amounts of wheelspin without rolling into the throttle.

[Josh]

If you had stock suspension or poorly setup coil overs at this power level it is entirely possible to lift the front tires off the ground.

[Josh]

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From "Fastest Delorean in the World" on a 12 second pass.

[Helirich]

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From "Fastest Delorean in the World" on a 12 second pass.

Lifting that much is cool. I was afraid it might really lift to the point of scraping the rear.

[Josh]

Lifting that much is cool. I was afraid it might really lift to the point of scraping the rear.

Its actually terrifying with our suspension setup.

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The car could easily be set up to do wheelies with some suspension/tire adjustments, but aside from looking cool, they are not ideal.


Its actually terrifying with our suspension setup.

Oil pan is uncomfortably close to the ground if the front takes flight.

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Fun Fact: DeLorean lower engine cover fits perfectly on the 575M parcel shelf

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Also, the back of the car is together

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[Mark D]

Awesome to see it fully reassembled and it's great that the engine fits under the louvers.

What's next for this car, or is this pretty much the end goal achieved?

[Helirich]

Will you be taking any trips in the car. It would be interesting to see what the mpg is at 60-70 cruise. I don't think it should be terrible. My old C5 (LS3, I think) got about 30mpg on the highway. My C7 is bad for some reason. I'm not sure why, but that still might be better than a stock Delorean. It would be cool if you gained all that hp and get better mileage.

[Timeless]

Where in MI do you reside? I lived in Detroit for 35 years.

[Nicholas R]

Will you be taking any trips in the car. It would be interesting to see what the mpg is at 60-70 cruise. I don't think it should be terrible. My old C5 (LS3, I think) got about 30mpg on the highway. My C7 is bad for some reason. I'm not sure why, but that still might be better than a stock Delorean. It would be cool if you gained all that hp and get better mileage.

What year C5? The LS3 didn't come out until the C6's came out. All C5s had either the LS1 Or the LS6 (in the Z06 model).

One of the reasons the Gen IV LS engines (LS2, 3, 4, and 7) get notably good gas mileage is because of the displacement on demand where 4 cylinders shut down while highway cruising. That said, my dad has a 98 C5 and it gets 28mpg or so which is still pretty good.

[Josh]

What year C5? The LS3 didn't come out until the C6's came out. All C5s had either the LS1 Or the LS6 (in the Z06 model).

One of the reasons the Gen IV LS engines (LS2, 3, 4, and 7) get notably good gas mileage is because of the displacement on demand where 4 cylinders shut down while highway cruising. That said, my dad has a 98 C5 and it gets 28mpg or so which is still pretty good.

The LS2 is a gen3 and the 4 is a gen3/4. The 7 is also a bit of a hybrid.
None of the ls engines other than the 4 got displacement on demand. Also it has been observed in the community that it doesnt net much of a difference. There is no displacement on demand (DoD and later called active fuel management, AFM) on standard transmission vehicles. A major key to its smooth operation is to unlock the torque convertor when deactivating cylinders.

The biggest difference between the C5 and C7 in terms of milage (ignoring the fact that it uses a Gen5 DI engine of larger displacement) is that the gearbox is a 7 speed with 3 overdrives compared to the C5s 6 speed with 2 overdrives. The automatics are similar as well the c5 had a 4 speed and the C7 has a 6 speed (8 speed in later years)

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Will you be taking any trips in the car. It would be interesting to see what the mpg is at 60-70 cruise. I don't think it should be terrible. My old C5 (LS3, I think) got about 30mpg on the highway. My C7 is bad for some reason. I'm not sure why, but that still might be better than a stock Delorean. It would be cool if you gained all that hp and get better mileage.
No plans for road trips in the DMC as the Lambo & Ferrari are reserved for trips since they were designed to crush continents. With the fuel system, r-compound tires and how quickly it goes on boost I'm not expecting fuel mileage to be impressive, but that was never the point.

I don't think much can touch the C5 mpg, my modified C5 FRC 6 speed would consistently get 30+mpg highway.

[Helirich]

What year C5? The LS3 didn't come out until the C6's came out. All C5s had either the LS1 Or the LS6 (in the Z06 model).

One of the reasons the Gen IV LS engines (LS2, 3, 4, and 7) get notably good gas mileage is because of the displacement on demand where 4 cylinders shut down while highway cruising. That said, my dad has a 98 C5 and it gets 28mpg or so which is still pretty good.

The C5 was a 97', so I guess it was a LS1. (Not a Z06) I'm pretty sure we measured 30 mpg on a trip. Our 16' C7 is much worse, like 22 mpg. We don't hotrod the car, so I'm not sure why. We have had transmission problems and it still may not be fixed. I realize the car has a hundred more hp, but it would seem like that shouldnt make a differnce on the highway.

I think the LS series is a very efficient engine. So assuming the car uses 60 hp to go 60 mph, I'm thinking the LS can make that much hp with less gas. (It doesn't really matter how much excess hp there is available.) It would be nice if it did get better mileage because it doesn't have a very big tank.

[Nicholas R]

The LS2 is a gen3 and the 4 is a gen3/4. The 7 is also a bit of a hybrid.
None of the ls engines other than the 4 got displacement on demand. Also it has been observed in the community that it doesnt net much of a difference. There is no displacement on demand (DoD and later called active fuel management, AFM) on standard transmission vehicles. A major key to its smooth operation is to unlock the torque convertor when deactivating cylinders.

The biggest difference between the C5 and C7 in terms of milage (ignoring the fact that it uses a Gen5 DI engine of larger displacement) is that the gearbox is a 7 speed with 3 overdrives compared to the C5s 6 speed with 2 overdrives. The automatics are similar as well the c5 had a 4 speed and the C7 has a 6 speed (8 speed in later years)

Thanks for clarifying Josh. I didn't realize only the LS4 actually had DoD. I thought that all of the Gen 4 engines had the valley castings for the DoD plumbing but maybe I'm mistaken; or maybe they have it but dont utilize it.

[Josh]

Thanks for clarifying Josh. I didn't realize only the LS4 actually had DoD. I thought that all of the Gen 4 engines had the valley castings for the DoD plumbing but maybe I'm mistaken; or maybe they have it but dont utilize it.

You are mostly right. The 2005-2006 LS4 was a bit of an experimental engine along with the E40 ecu. FOr example it had a gen3 24x crank trigger, with DoD (bosses in the block) and gen4 rods/pistons. I really with it didnt have DoD, its a pain in the ass just more money to spend on a delete.

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DMC dyno sheet for those wondering.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51105569327_8e4ed7f592_z.jpg

Turbos kept building power the more we spun the motor. Torque curve is flat. Makes more power below 3000rpm than it did at peak power stock. lol

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[Josh]

beautiful. Excited to see and hear more about how you like driving it.

[Helirich]

Had to read the whole thread again. Fantastic. The engine is mind blowing, but I actually like all the work you did on suspension and brakes even better. Im courious, early on you said you dropped the car 4+ inches. Later you said your suspension guy raised it a bit. Do you know how much you finally ended up with. Also you mentioned rear wheel spacers. Was that because of the custom brakes, or you just wanted it slightly wider? How wide of spacers?

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Had to read the whole thread again. Fantastic. The engine is mind blowing, but I actually like all the work you did on suspension and brakes even better. Im courious, early on you said you dropped the car 4+ inches. Later you said your suspension guy raised it a bit. Do you know how much you finally ended up with. Also you mentioned rear wheel spacers. Was that because of the custom brakes, or you just wanted it slightly wider? How wide of spacers?

Still lowered 4+" from stock as he only raised it a few mm. Spacers, 20mm, are for matching the front and rear offsets when running 15's up front.

[Mark D]

Sweet baby Jesus.

https://youtu.be/Hn1zvx95WP0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn1zvx95WP0

Is the guru still "reserving judgement"?

[Helirich]

Cool video.

Another question. With those coil overs, were there any modifications to be made or you just bolt on? I assume you just set the ride height with a spanner wrench?

[Ron]

+1! ...made my shiftier stand straight up.

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The DMC is still in pieces, but it needs to do some shakedown driving and then further tuning of various components. After that the interior will get attention. So right now the interior looks like a the time machine with exposed wiring and a taped on boost gauge. It's a blast to drive, it makes such good noises and stupid fun to drive. The turbos spool so quickly that it's basically always in boost.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51144893760_f9a56176d0_z.jpg

Immediately put the DMC to work hauling a box full of 2WD Lamborghini parts on the passenger floor.

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Sweet baby Jesus.

https://youtu.be/Hn1zvx95WP0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn1zvx95WP0

Is the guru still "reserving judgement"?
Hahahaha!!!

Video is about as close to doing the car justice as possible. It is very quick and surprisingly puts the power down in a much more controlled manner than I was expecting. The turbo noises it makes with the slightest of throttle input is wonderful and has immediate throttle response, which is exactly what you want in a fun car. The clutch pedal is not heavy, but has some weight to it but the clutch is grabby so it needs your attention (again, perfect for a fun car).


+1! ...made my shiftier stand straight up.
:rofl:


Cool video.

Another question. With those coil overs, were there any modifications to be made or you just bolt on? I assume you just set the ride height with a spanner wrench?
The coilovers are direct bolt on (mount to the factory shock locations). The ride height adjustment and damper setting tools are included.

[Mark D]

It sounds unbelievably good. Yesterday on my commute home from work I played the video probably 10 times and just imagined being in my DeLorean and having it make those wonderful noises.

[dmc4087]

The engine looks like it wants to escape in that video! Awesome, fantastic work

[Josh]

It sounds unbelievably good. Yesterday on my commute home from work I played the video probably 10 times and just imagined being in my DeLorean and having it make those wonderful noises.

Ive watched it several times too, very awesome video. This car came together so nice.
I know its not the same but at the next DCS we will go for a burn!

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Initial figures.

0-60: 3.91
fastest 1/4 mile ET: [email protected]
fastest 1/4 mile trap: 123.6mph
60-130: 9.27
1/2 mile trap: 147mph

[Michael]

Those times need to be in the Bible somewhere....right before the part where God gets angry.

[Josh]

Initial figures.

0-60: 3.91
fastest 1/4 mile ET: [email protected]
fastest 1/4 mile trap: 123.6mph
60-130: 9.27
1/2 mile trap: 147mph

Making deloreans fast has been my life for the last 6 years. This is without a doubt the fastest delorean out there.


For now! Cant wait to keep up with you.

[Helirich]

I bet that gets the heart going! Is it hard to keep the tires from spinning?

Edit, I just watched the video a couple more times. In the beginning, it really is not to noticeable that it's highly modified when your not getting on it. Of course you can hear the slight whine of the turbos, but some people wouldn't know something is up. Lol. I had to laugh at the road work guys at the end of the video. I bet they took notice. Lol.

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I bet that gets the heart going! Is it hard to keep the tires from spinning?

Edit, I just watched the video a couple more times. In the beginning, it really is not to noticeable that it's highly modified when your not getting on it. Of course you can hear the slight whine of the turbos, but some people wouldn't know something is up. Lol. I had to laugh at the road work guys at the end of the video. I bet they took notice. Lol.

It hooks up very well. It spins hard on the 1-2 shift but that's about it for traction issues (cannot launch in boost otherwise the tires turn into a wall of smoke).

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Making deloreans fast has been my life for the last 6 years. This is without a doubt the fastest delorean out there.


For now! Cant wait to keep up with you.

Of course, cannot wait to see your results.

[Helirich]

It hooks up very well. It spins hard on the 1-2 shift but that's about it for traction issues (cannot launch in boost otherwise the tires turn into a wall of smoke).

Did you turn those times? Or did you have a professional driver? I'm not suggesting you aren't professional, but I know turning 12 sec 1/4 mile takes some skill no matter what your driving. Especially if it is standard. (Skill I don't possess)

[Michael]

Did you turn those times? Or did you have a professional driver? I'm not suggesting you aren't professional, but I know turning 12 sec 1/4 mile takes some skill no matter what your driving. Especially if it is standard. (Skill I don't possess)

???
A 12 second street car is about as common as a Honda Civic. It's not uncommon to run 12's these days.
Teens on liter bikes turn 9 seconds almost every weekend here at Bristol on street night.

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Did you turn those times? Or did you have a professional driver? I'm not suggesting you aren't professional, but I know turning 12 sec 1/4 mile takes some skill no matter what your driving. Especially if it is standard. (Skill I don't possess)

I was driving for the data logging and I am far from a professional.

[Josh]

???
A 12 second street car is about as common as a Honda Civic. It's not uncommon to run 12's these days.
Teens on liter bikes turn 9 seconds almost every weekend here at Bristol on street night.

A motorcycle is not a car.
a stock delorean (as you know, especially with your auto) is far from a 12 sec car.
Sure you can go to a dealership buy a brand new car that runs 12 sec out of the box.
This is a 40 year old car with over quadruple the stock power and supporting systems (brakes, cooling, electrical, etc.) to match.

[Michael]

A motorcycle is not a car.
a stock delorean (as you know, especially with your auto) is far from a 12 sec car.
Sure you can go to a dealership buy a brand new car that runs 12 sec out of the box.
This is a 40 year old car with over quadruple the stock power and supporting systems (brakes, cooling, electrical, etc.) to match.

I wasn't knocking this Delorean's performance(or anyone's car)just disagreeing with the myth or idea that it takes a "pro" to go home with a 12 sec slip(it's why I quoted the statement to avoid confusion but here we are). 50% of the cars that show up at the street fights are 12 second (or better) cars that got driven to the track by amateurs and will get driven to work the next day.

Hell I never made a fast pass in my life but my buddy let me take is built big block 81 Malibu down the strip(I just pretended to be him) and I got in the 11's. I'm no pro driver either but I can drive a straight line down a prepped track.

It doesn't take a professional driver to click off a 12 second quarter mile. It takes a 18yr old kid in a WRX.

[Helirich]

I wasn't knocking this Delorean's performance(or anyone's car)just disagreeing with the myth or idea that it takes a "pro" to go home with a 12 sec slip(it's why I quoted the statement to avoid confusion but here we are). 50% of the cars that show up at the street fights are 12 second (or better) cars that got driven to the track by amateurs and will get driven to work the next day.

Hell I never made a fast pass in my life but my buddy let me take is built big block 81 Malibu down the strip(I just pretended to be him) and I got in the 11's. I'm no pro driver either but I can drive a straight line down a prepped track.

It doesn't take a professional driver to click off a 12 second quarter mile. It takes a 18yr old kid in a WRX.

When I said 12, I ment 12 or better, not "in the 12s". My younger brother has a car that can do low 11's and ive ridden in it. It redefined fast to me. He told me he's seen lots of cars that sound and look bad ass, but they turn mid 13s. I agree cars are getting faster. I have a Vette that might be able to do 12s, but not with me driving. I guess you live in a fast and furious area.

[Michael]

I guess you live in a fast and furious area.

I live 20 miles from one of (if not the) top drag strips in the country. When the average guy has a chance to race at Thunder Valley for a 10 dollar bill one or two nights a week, that sweetens the pot to build a damn fast street car.

[jackb]

https://https://www.thedrive.com/news/40379/worlds-most-powerful-delorean-rocks-a-630-hp-kia-v6-and-a-porsche-911-six-speed-manual (https://www.thedrive.com/news/40379/worlds-most-powerful-delorean-rocks-a-630-hp-kia-v6-and-a-porsche-911-six-speed-manual)

[Helirich]

https://https://www.thedrive.com/news/40379/worlds-most-powerful-delorean-rocks-a-630-hp-kia-v6-and-a-porsche-911-six-speed-manual

Link doesn't work for me.

[Ron]

Link doesn't work for me.Fixed...

[Josh]

I respect this build and Nick ALOT. he is a true trailblazer.

What does not sit well with me is estimating flywheel power numbers from chassis dyno results. It is a very abstract number, and you cannot confirm it short of pulling the engine and putting it on an engine dyno.
But everyone likes these numbers as they are much bigger than at the tire.

I find someone claiming a 630hp delorean a bit of a misnomer. Most people dont care to learn the difference between tire and flywheel power numbers, so they merge them together.

[Helirich]

I respect this build and Nick ALOT. he is a true trailblazer.

What does not sit well with me is estimating flywheel power numbers from chassis dyno results. It is a very abstract number, and you cannot confirm it short of pulling the engine and putting it on an engine dyno.
But everyone likes these numbers as they are much bigger than at the tire.

I find someone claiming a 630hp delorean a bit of a misnomer. Most people dont care to learn the difference between tire and flywheel power numbers, so they merge them together.

I don't like some estimating engine from wheel power based on some "average" loss due to tranny/diff, but if they have a known loss from a Porsche 6speed on a Porsche, I think wouldn't be too far off with some other engine.

In this case, you have a writer probably demanding a number and Nick did the best he could.

All that being said, we all want a video of you side by side with Nick giving it all you got.

[Josh]

I don't like some estimating engine from wheel power based on some "average" loss due to tranny/diff, but if they have a known loss from a Porsche 6speed on a Porsche, I think wouldn't be too far off with some other engine.

In this case, you have a writer probably demanding a number and Nick did the best he could.

All that being said, we all want a video of you side by side with Nick giving it all you got.

I would love that too, and it will happen one day, but we live 2900kms apart and the border is closed right now.

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Guess who got accepted to Quail. :jawdrop:

[Helirich]

Guess who got accepted to Quail. :jawdrop:

Nice! You deserve it.

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Also . . .

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51240133159_d82cd00bb4_z.jpg

[DeLoreanTech]

I got to look at the car up close and personal at a recent Tech Event, and Nick took me out for a spin in it (thanks again for that). Very fun car to say the least. I was pretty surprised at how it pulls.

Did a walkthrough and test drive (more of a joyride) of it at the event:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Og_BdgSqY

https://youtu.be/q6Og_BdgSqY (https://youtu.be/q6Og_BdgSqY)

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[powerline84]

This is a phenomenal build .thanks for the video

[Helirich]

Im courious about your suspension. I got some front coilovers and lowered the car about 1 1/2" to get rid of the "off road" look. I noticed that the car bottoms out fairly often. So I adjusted the damping fairly stiff and it has helped. With yours being 4" lower, I have to believe it bottoms out all the time. Do you only take it on good roads? I know you did quite extensive work to make the tires fit. Did this allow you to lower it some without losing as much suspension travel?

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Im courious about your suspension. I got some front coilovers and lowered the car about 1 1/2" to get rid of the "off road" look. I noticed that the car bottoms out fairly often. So I adjusted the damping fairly stiff and it has helped. With yours being 4" lower, I have to believe it bottoms out all the time. Do you only take it on good roads? I know you did quite extensive work to make the tires fit. Did this allow you to lower it some without losing as much suspension travel?

My car has never bottomed out (suspension bump stops or car/ground). My dampening is halfway between soft/hard, which is great for a street car, but too soft for track use, so it can be adjusted much more firm. The car is driven on all types of roads and is fully compressed 3 times entering and exiting my garage.

The work to make the tires fit was not 100% necessary, but gave extra clearance with the square shoulder Toyos. The wheel arches should have plenty of clearance for stock wheel/tire cars unless you're slammed or running spacers.

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The interior is back together, but not completed.

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That 88mph hit

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[Helirich]

Interior looks great. Can you see the boost guage at that angle? It would be cool if you could somehow make the clock be a boost gauge. (Since there's a clock in the radio) I bet those seats are nice.

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Interior looks great. Can you see the boost guage at that angle? It would be cool if you could somehow make the clock be a boost gauge. (Since there's a clock in the radio) I bet those seats are nice.

The current gauge location is temporary. While it is redundant with the separate clock, I am a fan of it from a nostalgic standpoint.

[Helirich]

I was re-reading the early pages of your thread. Could you give a review of your brakes? I'm not sure if you ever drove the car with stock brakes. Have you driven any stock Delorean to compare? Do you have any anti-lock setup on it? How big are your rear discs? I imagine those tires are very sticky. Have you ever locked them up in a panic stop?

Sorry for all the questions.

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I was re-reading the early pages of your thread. Could you give a review of your brakes? I'm not sure if you ever drove the car with stock brakes. Have you driven any stock Delorean to compare? Do you have any anti-lock setup on it? How big are your rear discs? I imagine those tires are very sticky. Have you ever locked them up in a panic stop?

Sorry for all the questions.
I haven't driven a DMC with stock brakes.

Brakes are good. One of the strongest non-CCB braking cars I've driven.
Strong initial bite. Zero fade. When they start to warm up the seat belt really reminds you of its existence.
No ABS. Aside from attempting to lock the brakes I haven't been able to get them to lock in normal operation. Tires really help. On my BBK Viper (non-ABS), swapping to R888r (same as DMC) stopped it from locking up, so having grip really does make a big difference.

The car now has mechanically actuated line lock to allow for pure front brake control and act as a parking brake. I ran this same set up on my Viper and am very happy with the line lock. It also acts as a really nice anti-theft device.

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[jackb]

Absolutely amazing.

https://youtu.be/Nc-kCHReP4E

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Absolutely amazing.

https://youtu.be/Nc-kCHReP4E

Thanks!

Running next to 1000+whp 4WD to 500ft is cool with me. Check out the DMC's nose in the air and rear squat during the runs, it was pulling HARD.

[Helirich]

How did that come to happen? Did they approach you or were you aquatinted with them allready? I'm sorry if it said in the video. (I watched it without sound)

[Mark D]

Looks like this one is up for sale on BAT.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-delorean-dmc-12-64/

Good luck with the sale, and hope you enjoyed the car while you had it. This build was a joy to follow.

[Helirich]

Wow, I would have thought he would keep this longer. I know he has a lot of other toys, but this really is special. I’m not a speed junkie, but I understand some people are. But in the case of this car, you have all the speed and the exotic qualities in one.

[Mark D]

Currently bid up to 100K with 6 days to go. This may bring record breaking money.

Still waiting for David T's reserved judgement on this one...:)

[Michael]

Still waiting for David T's reserved judgement on this one...:)

Having the Guru's blessing would no doubt add 15-20% value.

[MrChocky]

Having the Guru's blessing would no doubt add 15-20% value.

You think? It's not Concourse, though. I had originally guessed it would end somewhat over 100K, but I know better than to try and guess auction prices. But it could go much higher with all the attention it has.

[ssdelorean]

All that work and still an 85mph speedometer? Pfffft :-)

[82DMC12]

Perfect time to sell it with attention on it at an all time high, DeLorean prices in general at highest ever, and the economy hasn't quite yet crashed. Personally I get too attached to projects but if you can divorce that and look at everything as a transaction, then this is a smart move.

[Helirich]

Perfect time to sell it with attention on it at an all time high, DeLorean prices in general at highest ever, and the economy hasn't quite yet crashed. Personally I get too attached to projects but if you can divorce that and look at everything as a transaction, then this is a smart move.

Everybody I know believes that our future economy involves high inflation. So trading a standard Delorean for cash is probably not a good idea unless you have somewhere to put that cash that holds its value better. In the case of this Delorean, it’s a lot more speculative. For example, if a standard Delorean goes from 50K to 60K, will this go from 150K to 180K? I have no idea.

I think the best way to look at this is “I want a Delorean like this, so how much do I have to pay to have one built”? You could also consider how long would it take to build one. (For the “I want it now” personality.)

[WHO1DMC]

Currently 125K with 4 hours to go.





Dave B.

[Henrik]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-delorean-dmc-12-64/

"Sold for $243K"

:jawdrop:

[Michael]

I'm reserving judgement till positive feedback has been left, the new owner accumulates 10k miles with no issues, and has intercourse with at least 5 women as a direct result of handbrake turns and powersliding in this car.

[WHO1DMC]

If Deloreans were made this way and this was not a uncommon price I wouldn't been able to afford one!

Will this prompt DMCH to get serious about a new VIN car? Was also thinking can this car be insured for this value? I think it will be a hell of a process!




Dave B.

[Helirich]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-delorean-dmc-12-64/

"Sold for $243K"

:jawdrop:

Wow! I didn’t see that coming. I wonder if Josh is considering his options? I don’t know which car is faster, but I consider a LS to be more reliable. (Also, a US engine seems more appropriate for some reason)

[Mark D]

It's just amazing to see one of these cars bring that kind of money. I'd love to see OMD do another one now that they have the design all figured out... Should only take half as long the second time around right? :)

[Timeless]

All that work and still an 85mph speedometer? Pfffft :-)
Right!? Get a 140mph unit in there ASAP.

[Michael]

Making the rounds with the mainstream. It's good press even if the naysayers can't explain it. Usually goes like:

Them: That will never happen

That just happened

Them: Yeah but it didn't happen the way I said it wouldn't happen

What??



https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/dollar248k-for-a-kia-powered-delorean-great-scott/ar-AAQysug?ocid=msedgntp

[Helirich]

It is pretty amazing. I know I could build a comparable car for far less, but that’s doing a lot of work. My feeling about it is you could have a comparable car built by a reputable shop for half that and never pick up a wrench. So the only reason to pay this is to have the car TODAY!

If your a billionaire, that’s a good reason. I’m glad it sold for that. Rich people over paying is good for the economy.

[MrChocky]

What a lot of people seem to have missed about this is that not only was this an engineering tour de force, it was also a marketing one.

The car got a ton a press during the build, and then later during various events. And then during the auction, plenty of people who
had seen the car in person popped up to say how great the car/builders were, etc. I'm not saying this was staged or anything, and
I don't doubt the sincerity of anyone who commented, but the marketing was a huge factor here in the final price. Stories sell cars.

Would similar swap go for a similar price? Who knows, but probably not.

Anyone looking to make $$$$ on a DeLorean build would probably be better off with a Time Machine. That's a well understood
and repeatable build, and there's decades of marketing already done for you. One will be on BaT next month, so that'll be interesting.

[Josh]

What a lot of people seem to have missed about this is that not only was this an engineering tour de force, it was also a marketing one.

The car got a ton a press during the build, and then later during various events. And then during the auction, plenty of people who
had seen the car in person popped up to say how great the car/builders were, etc. I'm not saying this was staged or anything, and
I don't doubt the sincerity of anyone who commented, but the marketing was a huge factor here in the final price. Stories sell cars.

Would similar swap go for a similar price? Who knows, but probably not.

Anyone looking to make $$$$ on a DeLorean build would probably be better off with a Time Machine. That's a well understood
and repeatable build, and there's decades of marketing already done for you. One will be on BaT next month, so that'll be interesting.

I fully agree with this.

However I also do take away that there is a demand for well done engine swapped cars as well. It was once perceived anything other than stock takes value from your car. I would not say this is true.

[Timeless]

I fully agree with this.

However I also do take away that there is a demand for well done engine swapped cars as well. It was once perceived anything other than stock takes value from your car. I would not say this is true.
Looks as if DPI is jumping on the swap bandwagon. Ford 5.0 and electric motor options listed on their site.

[Josh]

Looks as if DPI is jumping on the swap bandwagon. Ford 5.0 and electric motor options listed on their site.

Id love to see a coyote mocked up in a frame. With it being 5" wider than an LS, I have some very strong doubts.
Also I dont know what experience DPI has with electric setups but its a little more than bolting a motor in.

[ssdelorean]

Id love to see a coyote mocked up in a frame. With it being 5" wider than an LS, I have some very strong doubts.
Also I dont know what experience DPI has with electric setups but its a little more than bolting a motor in.

"Contact To Order (https://deloreanindustries.com/spec-c-5-0-coyote/)"
Translation = How much money you got in your bank account? :rofl: