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SupercoolBill
10-08-2023, 08:17 AM
I had one last broken bolt, well I hope it is the last, to drill out on the intake housing. I really suck at doing this. I never seemed to be able to get the punch centered and therefore my hole is not centered and often isn't drilled straight. I really hoped the piece would come out while I was drilling it but no such luck. I tried feeding in a tap from the back side but it just kept kicking off at an angle and binding up. So I kept going bigger with the drill bits until all of the old bolt was gone. Unfortunately this meant I drilled into new aluminum on one side of the hole (because my hole wasn't centered). One saving grace is that the broken bolt didn't got all the way through the tapped hole. So I decided to try the JB weld trick I had seen online. Spray a new bolt with WD40 or something similar. Put JB weld in the hole, thread the bolt in. If it works right I should be able to break the bolt free, thread it out, and be left with a nice threaded hole. If it doesn?t work...well I get to drill out the same hole again.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231008/d494ed56d28f8a3c559390a4f7f3b7ab.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231008/eed0a115eb930e89461fbbb64b3c815a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231008/9bffb6c7055bd2f17558703876ba89b2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231008/5b2c041e8c9725f3e9e191c232f152a8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231008/9e09a516338e8cf40578ea8dc0dbf699.jpg

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Helirich
10-08-2023, 06:00 PM
I would be more inclined to install a heli-coil. But I guess you can always do that if this doesn?t work.

SupercoolBill
10-08-2023, 08:49 PM
I would be more inclined to install a heli-coil. But I guess you can always do that if this doesn?t work.Yeah I don't like how it came out. It was an experiment but I'm not satisfied with the results. I found another M7 bolt hole on the same part that is also compromised so I'm going to buy an M7x100 Helicoil kit to go with my other metric Helicoil kits.

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SupercoolBill
10-08-2023, 09:06 PM
This afternoon, we did the following:
The wife finished painting the seat slides
I made a coolant system air purge and she installed it on the car.
We worked together measuring the cylendar in the engine to determine what thickness shims we need. More on this later.
I honed the rest of the cylendars, and inspected them. One of them has a scratch in it. It looks bad but is very superficial. Also the engine had great compression before we took it apart which I would think it wouldn't have if it was really bad. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231009/e07bbc0068176449307cd98b4d438ed7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231009/fb452365d4e95362482a538da744f2a3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231009/a40f2621d25084a7ece940470f61912e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231009/9977b8316e232fc24527c41d393f6a49.jpg

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SupercoolBill
10-08-2023, 09:16 PM
I also decided to fix a seized roller tube in the air meter assembly tonight. This was kind of stressful.
I thought it was just a tube on a shaft but it turns out this is actually a tiny needle bearing roller. So I had to push out the pin, not lose the brass washers, the roller, or any of the tiny needle bearings as I cleaned, lube, and assembled them. The worst part, driving the pin back through the bearing praying that none of the needles fall out of place and get wedged against the shaft. The whole time I was working on it I kept thinking "Yup if I break or lose any of these tiny parts then I need an entire new meter assembly". Ugh...[emoji21]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231009/1f90d607ed64f4d3548f3c06aebf53bb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231009/b9039bcbaa183f91a412f0554a8082db.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231009/0b3efdcd9fdc901417a6822fe3d1951b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231009/897344e1acac930ac2ff439ba31508ab.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231009/cf832aac4f13fc62c44ad594dc502da8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231009/777d3fec85329cb4d23cfbebc9570214.jpg

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Helirich
10-09-2023, 10:04 AM
I?m impressed. I probably wouldn?t have attempted that small work.

SupercoolBill
10-09-2023, 08:23 PM
I?m impressed. I probably wouldn?t have attempted that small work.My eyesight seems to be getting worse by the day. It was quite challenging to try to see what the heck I was doing.

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SupercoolBill
10-09-2023, 08:41 PM
Tonight I received peace of mind. My running buddy that happens to be an excellent machinist agreed to come over and help us measure and check the engine. He started by doing something quite interesting. Instead of putting the cylendar sleeve in the block then measuring how proud it was in comparison to the block he instead did the following. He measured the height of every sleeve in several locations with a micrometer. Next he measured the depth from the deck of the block down into where the sleeves seat. He took the numbers, averaged them, subtracted one from the other to come up with the numbers of how proud each sleeve was in relation to the block. They were all around .002 to .003.
Next we put the sleeves in and measured the difference between the block and the sleeves. He had a little snafu because his tool wasn't zeroed so he had to do it again. Once again the measurements were .002 to .003. So we need yellow shims.
Before he left I had him check the sleeves inside with my bore gage. He said that he thinks the sleeves are in great shape with very little variance on the I.D. he said. .0001 max variation.
I figured they were good since we had good compression before we took the engine apart but it is good to have a second opinion.
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SupercoolBill
10-10-2023, 10:01 AM
Last night I opened the door of the car to show my buddy what the interior looks like and was surprised to see (and smell) how moldly it was in there. The car sat in a barn closed up for over 20 years and it wasn't nearly this bad. I don't understand why it has got so much worse in such a short amount of time. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231010/dc073ef03e602c27bea58e61176d04cb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231010/70eb88b74384efeb1b4a5c8a9d9406cb.jpg

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Timeless
10-10-2023, 12:37 PM
Last night I opened the door of the car to show my buddy what the interior looks like and was surprised to see (and smell) how moldly it was in there. The car sat in a barn closed up for over 20 years and it wasn't nearly this bad. I don't understand why it has got so much worse in such a short amount of time.
My car was stored from 2002 to 2022 when I purchased it and the interior is mint. When it's parked in the garage I leave the windows down - do that with all my non-daily driven vehicles. I like the idea of having of having air circulation in the cabin plus it's keeps the old car smell to a minimum. Photo from earlier this year - original interior.
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SupercoolBill
10-10-2023, 01:52 PM
My car was stored from 2002 to 2022 when I purchased it and the interior is mint. When it's parked in the garage I leave the windows down - do that with all my non-daily driven vehicles. I like the idea of having of having air circulation in the cabin plus it's keeps the old car smell to a minimum. Photo from earlier this year - original interior.
70091Yeah I have a lot of dust in my shop so I was keeping it closed up.

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Timeless
10-10-2023, 04:44 PM
Yeah I have a lot of dust in my shop so I was keeping it closed up.
I hear that. I HATE dust build-up in car interiors!

SupercoolBill
10-14-2023, 09:38 PM
Today the wife and I focused on assembling the Mixture Assembly and Throttle spool assembly. My wife is getting really good at working on this stuff.
I didn't have new screws for the throttle disks so we walked over to the hardware store. I didn't find any screws that were a good match. We wanted to get this part of the project wrapped up so we removed the screws from our original instake. I broke off the split part of the screws. We used medium loctite on the threads of the screws.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231015/e36f5b214342ecc2c54ff303a79cd449.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231015/c946a0856e17ced4a1d6fcb5112512a1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231015/ac4ed09715b3ba02f9089c3c90e6b8a9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231015/afa6ecd82458bd575ef145407a38ceb4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231015/55573ddcce1b593596e17e5e3091fce7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231015/1820681f79bbbe4b33bab3a190084752.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231015/9eff124c0f1c2e9e8bb334c3099960c6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231015/ec615f3a0245912b25570799b4fd7e4e.jpg

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SupercoolBill
10-14-2023, 09:39 PM
Throttle spool. In the second picture I was trying to figure out what that nylon ring was for.


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Helirich
10-15-2023, 08:06 PM
Boy, I would love to display that thing on my coffee table.

SupercoolBill
10-15-2023, 09:54 PM
Boy, I would love to display that thing on my coffee table.Haha yeah I thought the same thing

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82DMC12
10-16-2023, 02:46 PM
Damn, that mixture unit looks top notch. The key here will be making sure there is zero friction in the roller for the fuel distributor piston and in the see-saw for the air flap. If there is any friction or drag from grime or vapor blast media, it could cause fueling issues. Same with the throttle body, it can't feel sticky when operating by hand, though that's not such a big deal because you have springs helping it return to zero.

Rich
10-16-2023, 03:36 PM
As you probably figured by now the nylon ring has nothing to do with the throttle quadrant but that part does belong with the assembly you're working on.

It's this part (https://store.delorean.com/102282-back-up-ring.html), the Backup Ring that fits with an O-ring where the central inlet of the W-pipe slips onto the throttle body outlets. Items 53 and 54 in this assembly (https://store.delorean.com/parts/engine/1-4-1-air-induction-system.html).

You should have a pair of them, one for each barrel in the throttle body. Unlike the o-rings those nylon backup rings should last decades.


Throttle spool. In the second picture I was trying to figure out what that nylon ring was for.

SupercoolBill
10-17-2023, 05:49 AM
As you probably figured by now the nylon ring has nothing to do with the throttle quadrant but that part does belong with the assembly you're working on.

It's this part (https://store.delorean.com/102282-back-up-ring.html), the Backup Ring that fits with an O-ring where the central inlet of the W-pipe slips onto the throttle body outlets. Items 53 and 54 in this assembly (https://store.delorean.com/parts/engine/1-4-1-air-induction-system.html).

You should have a pair of them, one for each barrel in the throttle body. Unlike the o-rings those nylon backup rings should last decades.Yeah thanks Rich. Actually 82DMC told me this in a message also.

Not sure if these are all that critical or not. I have only been able to locate one at this point so I'd need to get another one or just not use them at all.

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SupercoolBill
10-17-2023, 06:01 AM
Damn, that mixture unit looks top notch. The key here will be making sure there is zero friction in the roller for the fuel distributor piston and in the see-saw for the air flap. If there is any friction or drag from grime or vapor blast media, it could cause fueling issues. Same with the throttle body, it can't feel sticky when operating by hand, though that's not such a big deal because you have springs helping it return to zero.Yeah I ended up restoring that little roller bearing because it was stuck. That was a stressful job since you can't buy any of these parts individually. No friction anywhere. Everything has been rinsed and washed then rinsed twice. Then after dry blown out with compressed air. Then in some cases blasted with canned degreaser just to make sure. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231017/a8a76bcaa9608312c3a981edf1be0b02.jpg

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Delorean Industries
10-17-2023, 06:50 AM
https://deloreanindustries.com/online-store/fuel-emissions/2-2-0-fuel-injection-system-kjet/21-3-roller-bearing-air-meter-housing/

SupercoolBill
10-17-2023, 07:07 AM
https://deloreanindustries.com/online-store/fuel-emissions/2-2-0-fuel-injection-system-kjet/21-3-roller-bearing-air-meter-housing/nice! I guess I was worried for nothing. Oh well disaster was averted and it is all back together safe and sound.

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SupercoolBill
10-17-2023, 07:09 AM
https://deloreanindustries.com/online-store/fuel-emissions/2-2-0-fuel-injection-system-kjet/21-3-roller-bearing-air-meter-housing/After totally rebuilding one of these is can say that this is a really good price.
I'm assuming a decent core is required?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231017/01b13e33197a0577ed53981ed2de52c7.jpg

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Delorean Industries
10-17-2023, 07:40 AM
No, we have accumulated a massive inventory due to all of our efi installs. We would like one back, but if the one you have isn't the best it's fine.

Rich
10-17-2023, 11:41 AM
Those backup rings aren?t rare. Houston sells a pair for $5.

You want them both there in order to provide the correct cavity dimensions to properly seat and retain each one of those O-rings.

Install the backup ring into the butterfly assy first with the O-ring on top of it. O-ring seals against the face of the W-pipe as in the Air Induction diagram.


Yeah thanks Rich. Actually 82DMC told me this in a message also.

Not sure if these are all that critical or not. I have only been able to locate one at this point so I'd need to get another one or just not use them at all.

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SupercoolBill
10-18-2023, 03:58 PM
Those backup rings aren?t rare. Houston sells a pair for $5.

You want them both there in order to provide the correct cavity dimensions to properly seat and retain each one of those O-rings.

Install the backup ring into the butterfly assy first with the O-ring on top of it. O-ring seals against the face of the W-pipe as in the Air Induction diagram.Okay thanks Rich.

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SupercoolBill
11-04-2023, 09:01 PM
It has been nearly impossible to carve out time to work on this project. Our HVAC business has us working long stressful days. I swear every year half of our customers forget that it is going to get cold out in the fall. We really should have spent today doing household chores, prepping for snow, etc. But the wife has been really upset that nothing is getting done on the car so we blew off adulting today to go for a long run (8 miles for me and 18 miles for her) and then work on the Delorean.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/ab98ffb4162b75ac8ada8640a222dece.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-04-2023, 09:05 PM
I showed the wife how to check the ring gap and she got that done while I cleaned one of the heads that seemed to have dirt in it (stuck in the oil layer) when I received it from DMW.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/beabe897d4c5683d4da3313f6b8484ef.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/ac2adf2b90dfeac3593a8199b2374a62.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-04-2023, 09:10 PM
She got that done in short order so I showed her how to install the piston rings.
It seems like all too often I warn her of the consequences of messing up on what she is working on and she gets mad at me yelling "Why do you always say that!?!"
I don't know how else to handle this. I'm just being honest. You spread one of the rings too wide and it breaks and now we need to buy another piston ring set. Anyways she did a great job putting the rings on. She asked why I made her put all the rings in 120 degree offsets now if they are just going to move around until we are actually installing the pistons in the engine. A valid point indeed.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/2d9dd649045cdfa84cd57981f599c379.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-04-2023, 09:16 PM
While she was doing that I inspected the cams and the valve tappets.
One lobe on one of the cams looked bad to me. I carefully tried cleaning with degreaser and scotchbrite. It seems like it was some sort of a coating. Not sure why only this lobe had it on it. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/587c30c4defd9c92a9ea7de0f1b4bed3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/8233c07d4fafc0941fd18cad2bff619b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/ebf1a73fccdde987d06cfc60e7eaa851.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-04-2023, 09:19 PM
I put assembly paste, break in lube on the cam lobes and valve tappets. I had this stuff in stock because I use it on rebuilding vintage BMW motorcycle engines.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/9bfe0ee7652ac1adbd6dab23136a89ee.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/d58a5d3123098abc2008c9decec2976c.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-04-2023, 09:23 PM
82DMC12 (Andy) wanted to see pictures of the index in the crank so I took pics and measured it.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/58032127ec36d10a09daea7d66a503ab.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/365b84f8855204d38aac46d2e725c12b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/8171973ae81df358df64143b9f74fda2.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-04-2023, 09:29 PM
We oiled the crank bearings and put everything in place. We had one snafu. Bearing block #1 didn't seem to fully seat in place correctly and made the crank jam up.
I installed it, removed it, and installed it several times. After a half hour of us sifting through old pics we found out that the bearing block needed to be flipped 180 degrees. Once we did that it went right into place and the crank spun freely.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/57fe8227f3c3447699db49b3cc58a001.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/28f040bd64f8fa6973aa5d0550b9b9bc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/a7a7d37399f610ba5d18acaebe93f89c.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-04-2023, 09:43 PM
We had a decision to make now. Follow the order of assembly of the manual and of the advice the owner of a reputable Delorean repair shop or stop working on the engine until the Hylomar I ordered showed up.
Basically there are two ways to proceed with assembling the engine from here out.
A. Install spacers on crankshaft bearing blocks, tighten down the nuts, flip motor over, install cylendar sleeves with shims (with Hylomar on them), install temporary sleeve retainers, install pistons, torque connecting rod bearing half nuts, flip motor over, remove crank bearing nuts and spacers, install bottom section of the engine, reinstall crank bearing nuts, torque nuts, install oil pan plate.
B. Install bottom section of engine, install crank bearing block nuts and torque (actual degrees but same idea), mount engine to engine stand, install cylendar sleeves with shims, install cylendar retainers, install pistons, flip engine back and forth as installing pistons, torque conn rods nuts, install oil pan plate.

We decided to do option B. To me it makes more sense because I can get the block bolted to the engine stand sooner. Hopefully we won't regret it.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/8c501511db5461ac474b9118738b3db5.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-04-2023, 09:45 PM
It doesn't show putting sealant here but I was worried about oil leaking through the bolt holes so I added some sealant as cheap insurance. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/6fb8566fa860a18f129704531fe70281.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-04-2023, 09:50 PM
I had purchased a degree gauge on Amazon. I assumed it work work as designed to but unfortunately right when the pressure was on we found out that it didn't work right. The dial wouldn't move like it was supposed to. Super annoying! We had to keep loosening the nut back up, torqueing to 20 ft-lbs, then trying the 75 degree tighten again. We ending having to have one of us hold the dial fixed by hand while the other person held the engine block with one hand and tightened with the other. Royal pain on the butt and we had a lot of anxiety about the whole thing. I really wish they just had final torque specs rather than the stupid angle tighten technique.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/fe045cd664937ce4a303fd05da53660d.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-04-2023, 09:53 PM
We installed and tightened the oil baffle plate to squat the sealant down to where it is going to be when the oil plate is installed later. This is one extra wasted step that I hadn't thought of before that is required for option B.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/729ec779ec37acbe9686a52575adda8f.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-04-2023, 10:13 PM
I showed my wife how to install a Helicoil to repair stripped out threads. She was having a hard time getting the tap going in straight. I tried to show her how it is done and didn't have much better luck, but we finally go it done. This should be the last two threaded hole repairs on the car. [emoji1696] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/159a82ff300556285bd35adcbd1bfd8b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/2ccbf966511d20df35623b3532bdf6ec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231105/f5b448fc48b88efce8862c25f3f2224e.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-08-2023, 08:44 PM
One VERY IMPORTANT thing I forgot to mention. YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THE BOTTOM ENGINE SECTION IS FLUSH WITH THE ENGINE BLOCK BEFORE FULLY TIGHTENING BOLTS!
In this picture I am checking the transmission mounting surfaces but I actually used the pulley side to make sure the bottom engine section was even with the block. It is easier to see on that side and if the pulley side is lined up then so isn't the transmission side.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231109/eb45778945b783de25ea2fc83066fa55.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-08-2023, 08:50 PM
I posted my progress on a Facebrag page. I got some criticisms for having my heads sitting on a metal work bench and for putting sealer on those two bearing cap studs. I admit it is not a good practice to set aluminum heads on a metal surface. Frankly I don't even remember ever not having the heads on cardboard, a towel, or my wooden bench. I must have though because I have the pictures.
I defended my decision to put sealant on the two studs and one person that originally said I shouldn't have done it later private messaged me saying he got what I was saying and it probably was a good idea to put sealant on there.

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SupercoolBill
11-08-2023, 08:58 PM
Today was a very stressful and frustrating day for my wife and I at work. I almost called off working on the car because my brain was fried. We really need to get going on this though so we worked on it. Unfortunately it ended up being a total waste of time.
I installed the crank seal in the seal plate. I showed the wife some pictures that Andy (82DMC-12) had sent me of how to seal in the plate. I have attached his photos.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231109/8516559d91b372ab688cd5aeb1955b83.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231109/c7adeb3faa19900a6e69975369fa3b5e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231109/566a4f8e0381d35995d2c4020b1a327b.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-08-2023, 09:00 PM
I had my wife apply the sealant. These are the pics.
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SupercoolBill
11-08-2023, 09:05 PM
I installed the cover and the wife installed the bolts. I snugged all the bolts down.
We installed the engine stand mount and set the engine block on the stand (DON?T DROP IT!!).
We decided to call it a night.
Proud as a peacock I messaged 82DMC-12 from my truck before I left the shop. This is what transpired next....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231109/8c871f921865a3309949b499e82bc806.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231109/8430ea99dcf40c369e2b489db0a43736.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-08-2023, 09:11 PM
So......we went back into the shop, took the engine back off the stand, removed the mount, removed the seal plate. Sure enough...tiny gap in the back corner. It would have leaked. Now everything is a sticky mess.

I take the blame. It's totally my fault. I should have told her how important it was to get the corners really well.
Now the sealant is a sticky mess. We covered the engine and went home defeated. I am glad to have a friend like Andy. It would have been awful to get the whole car back together and have it leak.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231109/a6d4b596ae96b3637de1a3cfee615529.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-12-2023, 10:02 PM
This.afternoon we made a new gasket, stripped the old sealant, and re-installed the seal plate. I figured we could get the cylendar liners and pistons installed also but it was not to be so. No matter what we did we could not get a single piston into one of the cylendars. Super frustrating. Going to try to find a better piston ring compressor to buy or rent this week.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231113/471f413288c48dd1c89fdac80f60d65b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231113/50ce01ff248926be130a70ba9d835560.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231113/3de74934fc82b4b23392bf1e504dad65.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231113/e7146463d7d31c091c28e3c45b094d89.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231113/39c5b7ec242f25cc72f79d740462825a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231113/0afb83d2372ec847765d2d1022203717.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231113/19db1659392fbe2ac08c83f790b16ca9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231113/74263e21b51d385bd40e314bad95d0e4.jpg

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Ron
11-13-2023, 11:50 AM
Assuming the pic shows right before you tried to install it, try loading the piston into the lower half of the ring compressor instead of the top half...Soak with oil first.

SupercoolBill
11-13-2023, 07:07 PM
I bought a better piston ring compressor today. We managed to get the piston into one of the sleeves. We got excited but that excitement faded when we tried over and over to get the next piston into the cylendar. We said "Okay...what the heck are we doing wrong?" I kept thinking "I bet if we put the origonal rings on the pistons they'd go right in!!" Okay well if that is true why is that? At the same time we were noticing that the top piston ring wouldn't go flush with the piston. Okay so....did we clean the piston ring grooves good enough??....Did we even clean the grooves at all (besides just general cleaning of the pistons)? Nope I don't think either one of us did. [emoji2357].
So we are going to take all of the rings off from all of the pistons and make sure the grooves are cleaned out really good, put the piston rings back on, and try installing the pistons again.
I watched some YouTube videos on cleaning piston rings and in the comments someone said "Just soak in brake fluid. Easiest way to clean pistons." So I pulled the rings off one piston and left it soaking in brake fluid. Hopefully it works and doesn't somehow damage the piston.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231114/28676c8b2f9689d7116c23994601d26f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231114/c5e719f371580f442a8ebaf40d728769.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231114/9911318676d55ec490956cdc2ad6e805.jpg

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82DMC12
11-14-2023, 10:27 AM
Did you vapor hone them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAP602u14vQ

SupercoolBill
11-15-2023, 09:08 PM
Did you vapor hone them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAP602u14vQNo I didn't. I'd love to but that opens up more potential issue because I now need to get into removing and reinstalling the grundion pins. In fact the manual says if you remove them new ones need to be pressed in using special tools.

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SupercoolBill
11-15-2023, 09:17 PM
Tonight we thoroughly cleaned the piston ring grooves. It was time consuming tedious work but we got it done. I ripped off thin strips of sandcloth and used it to clean the oil rings grooves. This worked great and made quick work of it. Obviously you need to be careful and not go crazy with the sandcloth. We used a stiff plastic bristle brush and little dental scraper tools to clean the other grooves and finish off the oil ring grooves.
I didn't take pictures but the pistons went into the cylendars pretty slick this time.
I feel like the technique for installing pistons in cylendars is to just SEND IT! The reason I say that is because there is always this moment where the ring is exiting the compressor but hasn't quite made it into the cylendar yet. So if you go slow the rings sometime get hung up on the way in. If you go fast it doesn't have time to push out as it is transitioning from the ring compressor to the cylendar. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231116/b9b7025b77f61a9e74f9e6b04dd5f801.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231116/4b8b11bc94c3e2b6dbe74aed0fd8acf7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231116/287ae5e603b424ada824598c06d04e59.jpg

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Helirich
11-16-2023, 12:12 PM
Win!



Carry on.

82DMC12
11-16-2023, 12:18 PM
Which piston rings did you wind up getting?

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SupercoolBill
11-16-2023, 07:05 PM
Which piston rings did you wind up getting?

Sent from my Pixel 6a using TapatalkHastings from DNW. Around $100.00

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SupercoolBill
11-18-2023, 08:34 PM
Today we did the following:
Installed all six cylendars and pistons into the engine block, installed oil baffle plate and oil pick up, installed the right side head, installed valve cover oil vent baffle plate, installed the engine ID plate, made a list of hardware needed. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/7041f2c7576211b5ebe70057b3b5d3cf.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/c4737a4c49d3427a13b1b3343cbbec6c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/0e5c922c0068bb52ef55c72405fac4d2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/ee79b0439b820730362a1ef9254fc1c7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/cac7f91e31a0c63801097d278467262a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/92cc52b0c14d374a616e089f8aad0320.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/e9425621b2de26a33f577344b49ed132.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/b08046f9ebfd4fab9f5f4125fc588c5e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/be4eba4c36c5451e4ea382cb39bd5dc7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/db1d701ffc4ff55b3aa02212e50c6565.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/ab1f574a838cd5e787c527b625094b9e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/b248b82ba8bc71a81dd03c2793505f5c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/0c98f49d14a342fd39e2b88ba8a7f830.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-18-2023, 08:41 PM
I realized that I recieved two right side head gaskets from D-Ind rather than a left and right set. Pretty frustrating since I was all prepped to install both heads today. So I messaged Josh to get the left side gasket ASAP. I also discovered more bolts and washers needed for the engine. I am going see if Josh will send the head gasket free of charge and give me free shipping on the hardware. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/9e4d737ba21bba73ae1d0e09e128e079.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231119/ca7bd07d4f30b04a0c3c1cc1fea60204.jpg

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Helirich
11-20-2023, 11:32 AM
I don?t want to sound like I?m complaining, because I love your thread and I know it?s a lot of work for you to document it here. But could you possibly put one blank space (line) between pictures?

WHO1DMC
11-20-2023, 11:54 AM
I don?t want to sound like I?m complaining, because I love your thread and I know it?s a lot of work for you to document it here. But could you possibly put one blank space (line) between pictures?

I've found that Tapatalk is a lot better for uploading pictures but I don't think it can do that. But it might be possible i 100% don't know. He could possibly edit his pictures with a border. It all depends how much more work he wants to do.

I definitely like the work that they are doing.


Dave B.

Helirich
11-21-2023, 06:14 PM
I've found that Tapatalk is a lot better for uploading pictures but I don't think it can do that. But it might be possible i 100% don't know. He could possibly edit his pictures with a border. It all depends how much more work he wants to do.

I definitely like the work that they are doing.


Dave B.

Ah yes, puters can be so easy and so hard at the same time. I can live with the pics touching. Carry on.

SupercoolBill
11-24-2023, 07:21 AM
Ah yes, puters can be so easy and so hard at the same time. I can live with the pics touching. Carry on.I have tried to do a picture or two with a description of that picture or pictures then do another page with one or two pictures with a description of those and so on but as you may guess this is very time consuming. The other day it was a long frustrating day so I just did a photo dump.
As far as spacing them out I am not sure if I can do that or not. I'll see.
To make matters worse I don't have the paid for version so I can only upload one picture at a time which can be a pain some times.

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SupercoolBill
11-24-2023, 07:27 AM
Josh from D-Ind shipped the left side head gasket right away so we received it two days ago (Wednesday). I was pleasantly surprised.
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SupercoolBill
11-24-2023, 07:49 AM
Wednesday night I spent a couple hours doing the following: Looking at my most recent order of parts from D-go (5 pages of parts mostly hardware for the engine), making a list of what we would need for new hardware for the next stage of the engine rebuild, then trying to figure out what I still need to order and what I should already have at the shop.

This part of a full restoration that a lot of people don't fully comprehend is this part here. Spending hour after hour mulling over the factory parts manual while looking at one of more vendors websites, comparing prices, verifying part numbers, making sure that you are not ordering something that you already have in good used condition or that you have already previously ordered, etc. Sometimes you lose track of where you are on the list, sometimes the website messes up and you have to start all over, etc.. For example the other night when I was on the D-go website I had spent an hour making my list and putting various hardware items in my cart. I decided to go back and view my past orders. I clicked on my most recent order. I accidentally added the order to my cart.[emoji2357]

So now I had five pages of parts in my cart that I didn't want in there. I tried deleting them one at a time but you can't select multiple. You have to remove one at a time. Also every time you deleted one item the cart had to update and the website had to refresh [emoji849]. It was taking for-ever....
I ended up just emptying my cart and starting all over. So I wasted at least an hour.

The moral of the story is if you are doing a full restoration just be aware that this tedious work is part of the project and will eat up a lot of hours. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231124/6d09ef861585108bd423ae84b61a3007.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-24-2023, 08:05 AM
This is one thing I am struggling to decide on. Do replace the flywheel mounting bolts or do I reuse the ones I have? They are not cheap and most people are saying they don't replace them.
On the other hand I have restored other vehicles in the past and the online communities for those vehicles were adamant about saying the flywheel bolts needed to be replaced everytime they were removed for any reason.
On my last restoration, a 1970 BMW motorcycle, I installed the flywheel and the five new bolts then decided I didn't like the end play on the crank so I pulled the flywheel back off and had to replace all of the flywheel bolts again! And the bolts were not cheap!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231124/34773bf07afcd006fc82e9e2124f39fb.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-25-2023, 09:21 AM
I dropped off my pitted Y-Pipe to my buddy that works at a machine shop. He was able to machine off enough to get rid of most if not all of the pitting. I haven't seen the final results yet but will post when I have the part back.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231125/202c8ebb7994ad90ce197387fcee1416.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231125/558feea038fb8d97798e161ab42272f5.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-26-2023, 09:00 PM
We worked on the car today.
We installed the left side head gasket and torqued the head down. We oiled the bolts before installing them. The manual says to angle tighten the head bolts but I decided to just use torque settings tightening in stages. 20#, 40#, then 75#. I talked to other owners that had good luck just using torque for tightening. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231127/c790f4cd9d2faf40da8d9cb4f927e176.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231127/c05abeb9b0ed7f6ab9c063c4133ed481.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231127/dad05ee90a56ea8d2dc920c4743ff582.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-26-2023, 09:08 PM
I heated the crank sprocket so it would easily slide right on. We could only find one of the two required woodruff keys. We looked through all of our stuff. Then looked again. We couldn't find the second key. I looked through a drawer of keys in my shop. I had larger keys and smaller keys but none the correct size. We decided to take a break from working on the car and went to Napa to see if they had the correct key. They had larger and smaller ones (just like I did) but none the correct size. We went to two other auto parts places and they were completely clueless of what we were looking for. We returned to the shop defeated. I may have to just order one on line.
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SupercoolBill
11-26-2023, 09:14 PM
Looked at what I had for parts in the baggies and the stains on the pieces and figured out that flat washers go on the back side of the chain guides. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231127/50b4f7c9e9d3dfd68d0b1ee41af87e2b.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-26-2023, 09:16 PM
I didn't reuse these screens. In this picture you can actually see how they had blown out. The online experts said not to install these screens. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231127/dedebd573e1cce6f52834fac54fe3014.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-26-2023, 09:18 PM
We got the right side done. That was pretty simple following the manual. The left side seemed like a real pain for some reason. When we got both timing chains installed we turned the motor over by hand one for cycle. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231127/578aefb0f9365ebefe5f64037412a8d6.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-26-2023, 09:24 PM
Delorean Industries is running a Black Friday special on their roof box kit so we figured we better take a look at our roof box to see if we should order one or if we can get by a couple years as is.
Removing the T roof is a bit stressful since you don't want to damage it. We got it off though.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231127/071afe75d5682588815eddf2b07baa02.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231127/0576ee868fb9ad981dcba0e168b4dd4d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231127/a178fda1cd51887f7b2ec31f721229f0.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-26-2023, 09:28 PM
The roof box looked really good from outside. I used a scope to look inside. At first everything looked great. That was looking from the hole forward. Then I looked towards the back...night and day difference. Really rusty looking. I think I see a new roof box in my future.

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Rich
11-28-2023, 06:43 PM
Did you see the Y-pipe flanges since you posted about what your friend planned to do?
Have your friend machine both of those faces down until all of the pits are gone. What we see in your 25-Nov post isn't good enough for a proper long-term O-ring seal unless you're real lucky.

See this thread (https://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?8861) about that, including notes about maintaining flange flatness/planarity when milling it among other things.

While you're thinking about it what do the mating O-ring grooves look like on the block? Better than the Y-pipe flanges look? I didn't check your thread to see if there are teardown photos of the valley.


I dropped off my pitted Y-Pipe to my buddy that works at a machine shop. He was able to machine off enough to get rid of most if not all of the pitting. I haven't seen the final results yet but will post when I have the part back.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231125/202c8ebb7994ad90ce197387fcee1416.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-28-2023, 08:12 PM
Today I got my Y-Pipe back from my buddy. It looks really good. One tiny little divot. I may just apply a little sealant on that. He said that he could have taken it down more but was worried it may cause some other problems. He told me I didn't owe him anything but I couldn't do that. He worked on it over Thanksgiving weekend. So I gave him $60.
Here is a before and after picture. I'm going to dress it up a bit with some fine sand paper. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231129/2a7e0ee01172c17876963e7cc64b8496.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231129/e66c72e5b29d2fdd37bfa40bc139d689.jpg

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SupercoolBill
11-28-2023, 08:13 PM
Did you see the Y-pipe flanges since you posted about what your friend planned to do?
Have your friend machine both of those faces down until all of the pits are gone. What we see in your 25-Nov post isn't good enough for a proper long-term O-ring seal unless you're real lucky.

See this thread (https://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?8861) about that, including notes about maintaining flange flatness/planarity when milling it among other things.

While you're thinking about it what do the mating O-ring grooves look like on the block? Better than the Y-pipe flanges look? I didn't check your thread to see if there are teardown photos of the valley.Done! See my recent post.

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SupercoolBill
12-01-2023, 01:29 PM
Monday we pulled the trigger and ordered the roof box while it was on sale. It showed up today along with a woodruff key that Josh threw in free of charge. Thanks Josh and thanks for getting this out so quickly and checking in with me during the week. [emoji4]

Right now we have bigger fish to fry so this is going to get put away on the shelf for a year or two. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231201/b64f8a8469978a1254d003d7a5a57eef.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231201/f77e2939dc2aade8216a3c5c937fad05.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231201/dff61de15f7f0afdd915639d947760af.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231201/d42e5431f16b5e2da886507e08385aad.jpg

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Timeless
12-03-2023, 08:21 AM
Nice! Did you order SS door hinges as well?

Delorean Industries
12-03-2023, 09:40 AM
He purchased the base kit. We offer it a complete package under the ultimate product page or where you can buy the pieces as need once you tear down and see what you are up against. Nearly 90% of owners end up coming back for additional bits and pieces. Most cars are in poor shape at this point.

SupercoolBill
12-03-2023, 11:23 AM
I haven't decided on the hinges and stuff. I feel like the stainless hinges are bling rather than needed for mechanical reasons. We will probably just clean up the hinges on the car and paint them or have them powder coated.

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SupercoolBill
12-07-2023, 10:34 PM
We picked away at the engine some more after work. Now that we had a second woodruff key (thanks Josh B.) we were able to install the oil pump.
I measured the thickness of the reworked Y-pipe. The short bolts were going to be fine but the shank on the long bolts was close to bottoming out so we installed some extra washers on these bolts.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/1c1cb3f0d1dfa59aebe3055147e1d4af.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/34144afcff1b70f3f3b4cc4a14138757.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/9543f6fc153aa90b0482b0e27d66880e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/f891bb230385553be69e975119d15685.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-07-2023, 10:40 PM
I wanted to dump some oil into the oil passageways to prime the pump. It turned out that this was a mistake. There is a hole in the block that the oil just started running out making a mess. I messaged Josh and he told me that this port gets blocked by the timing cover gaskets. I figured that was the case but why? Josh said it is a pressure relief. Should the spring loaded pressure control fail and the system pressure get too high he said it will blow out the timing cover gasket in that area. Interesting...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/442319cb29379d9947cd4f610f56ce00.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/1b13268f295aa7dda48960b273ca43a0.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-07-2023, 10:46 PM
I had bought an oil filter from Napa but then found that I had already bought a Bosch filter from one of the Delorean vendors. The Napa filter looked like it had the same threads and same diameter gasket but it was shaped way different so I got worried and decided to not use it. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/630226fef5a1618f3c1ff71c9850cfd7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/c253f9e92173e58c13cb7d6cf167810f.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-07-2023, 10:51 PM
I had a technician from a local fire protection company stop in to our shop today to inspect the fire extinguishers. He spotted the Delorean and instantly blurted out "Is that a fukin Delorean!?" "oops sorry" [emoji3526]
It was pretty funny.

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SupercoolBill
12-07-2023, 10:53 PM
The wife put a small bead of Hylomar on the timing chain cover. She put the gaskets in place then put a light film of oil on the other side of the gaskets.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/8c4c0d8440f2ba4372b44bfd5e5213ea.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-07-2023, 11:02 PM
She installed the cover and we tried to figure out what bolts go where. I had to rob wave washers from my parts for the valve covers. I don't know how I keep ordering so much hardware but still end up coming up short. I was short by a few new bolts also.

I was missing a oil galley plug for the engine. Well I thought I was missing one anyways. I finally figured it out. I put a plug where the oil pressure sending unit goes (the one for the oil light). I looked through all.of my pictures and finally found one that showed where it need to go and installed the new sending unit. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/9ab57d9a5ce83b122aef2f2020b5164d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/06c5f2bc4d2837670fe159777cba4e57.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/2a095d8eafe36690964c3ff0ff8ca536.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231208/020da353bf7a75c1dd227dab11a0cd1b.jpg

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Helirich
12-09-2023, 10:21 AM
Cool to compare those last two pics.

SupercoolBill
12-09-2023, 10:43 AM
Cool to compare those last two pics.Yeah I know right? I just happened to have quick access to it when posting because I had to look it up to see which oil port the sending unit went into.

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SupercoolBill
12-15-2023, 08:52 PM
We worked on the car for a few hours last night.
Assembled the water pump. Installed new D-Ind coolant ports onto the block.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/2b26b3e2d6d07c71f0e778b89ab2c008.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/36b3d29ec7e1e9eff389819a129ffc57.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-15-2023, 08:55 PM
We used to procedure in the manual to set the valve tappet gap. Pretty straightforward procedure. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/3e64b468fdc9b339a4ecba6819c45fa8.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-15-2023, 09:01 PM
I installed the bearings into the pulleys and installed the bolts through the pulley. I had to use my press to install the bearings in the pulleys and to get the bolts into the pulley bearings. They went in dry. I am thinking that the plating was a bit to thick. I probably should have sanded the ID of the pulleys and the OD of the bolts before trying to install them.
Time will tell if this tight fit will affect anything negatively.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/92a70d26adfb16e5d2578adf46cb7790.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/667978df48553b4ea7253abb162115ab.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/046c2edef9139b70aca08ce42cf82918.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-15-2023, 09:05 PM
The idler pulley set up on this engine is so over complicated and weird. It took us over an hour of looking at pictures and the manual to figure out how to assemble this setup and mount it to the engine. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/d1e8c7fa79d931b0a650aaf16313aff5.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-15-2023, 09:10 PM
Installed the water pump on the engine. Also put the valve covers just to keep stuff from getting in there.
Mounted the pulleys assembly to the engine.
One super annoying thing is that I am missing the o ring that goes behind the timing cover and the crank seal. So I am going to have to order those. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/b851d859ea98242083bbca72f7b0b892.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/3c98e59dd72e02b051b93145491ef1a5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/55d8c3cab25e6062f1a02aaa7ce32d38.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-15-2023, 09:22 PM
I got out my new coolant hoses. The kit I bought from D-Ind ditches the metal tube in the valley and replaces it with a silicone hose. I was very confused with how the set up goes. There is a coupler that has a mounting bracket on it. Josh has been very good at being available by messenger lately so we messaged back and forth about it. I thought that it should go here (2nd photo). And he said it goes here (1st photo). I couldn't understand how this would possibly work so he sent me this picture (3rd picture) So I we figured out that I was missing a spacer and longer bolt that I was supposed to have. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/042c5743bf349d0702a7c299fb2eb396.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/ec6b7e85f04ed8418141b59a0a5fb2e9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/b68dd4e110b6f3e9a55a86b6437fa3af.jpg

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82DMC12
12-15-2023, 09:23 PM
Installed the water pump on the engine. Also put the valve covers just to keep stuff from getting in there.
Mounted the pulleys assembly to the engine.
One super annoying thing is that I am missing the o ring that goes behind the timing cover and the crank seal. So I am going to have to order those. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/b851d859ea98242083bbca72f7b0b892.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/3c98e59dd72e02b051b93145491ef1a5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/55d8c3cab25e6062f1a02aaa7ce32d38.jpg

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82DMC12
12-15-2023, 09:24 PM
I got out my new coolant hoses. The kit I bought from D-Ind ditches the metal tube in the valley and replaces it with a silicone hose. I was very confused with how the set up goes. There is a coupler that has a mounting bracket on it. Josh has been very good at being available by messenger lately so we messaged back and forth about it. I thought that it should go here (2nd photo). And he said it goes here (1st photo). I couldn't understand how this would possibly work so he sent me this picture. So I we figured out that I was missing a spacer and longer bolt that I was supposed to have. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/042c5743bf349d0702a7c299fb2eb396.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/ec6b7e85f04ed8418141b59a0a5fb2e9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/b68dd4e110b6f3e9a55a86b6437fa3af.jpg

Sent from my SM-F926U1 using TapatalkI have that same kit. A year later so far so good. Had my intake off last month and no signs of leakage from it so I'm satisfied.

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SupercoolBill
12-15-2023, 09:30 PM
I was looking at and feeling the area of the crank pulley where the seal rides. It was really rough feeling from the plating. I sanded this area and also the inside of the pulley. I still don't love how the seal area looks and feels still so I think I am going to have my buddy chuck it up in a lathe and take just a tiny bit off and polish it up. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/2f0dbb77a385d9437091f8028f223327.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-15-2023, 09:31 PM
Which o ring are you talking about? Not sure I know what you mean. Part number?

Sent from my Pixel 6a using TapatalkThe one behind the plate which is behind the idler pulley bracket.

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82DMC12
12-15-2023, 09:33 PM
The one behind the plate which is behind the idler pulley bracket.

Sent from my SM-F926U1 using TapatalkOkay got it. Also you should just put a sleeve on the crank pulley now.

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SupercoolBill
12-15-2023, 09:40 PM
The last thing I did is tip the engine on its side and dumped some oil into the port behind the oil filter as described in the book for priming the pump.
We don't have the oil dipstick housing installed yet so of course oil ran out all over the floor. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231216/ec57c72f59e677878fd5b3eb010afae4.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-16-2023, 07:08 AM
Okay got it. Also you should just put a sleeve on the crank pulley now.

Sent from my Pixel 6a using TapatalkYou think so? Rather than just skimming a tiny bit off from it? Does the sleeve require reducing the OD of the pulley?

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SupercoolBill
12-16-2023, 10:15 PM
Worked on the car 5 hours today. I gave my wife the new alternator to figure out. She was angry because it didn't come with the bolt and nut for the adjuster (the one on the motor) but she found a bolt and nut in our left over parts. It was even a stainless steel bolt and nut. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/d4d7336bea8953deda5683ad8b1b549c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/39b3b212e7eb7594e0d4ebc06f63add2.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-16-2023, 10:19 PM
While she was doing that I prepped and primed all of the parts on the engine that were bare steel so they wouldn't rust.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/0635bf1506c9d471cc49d1c3c81e92e6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/60e9061a9758867e575e13fa49b376ee.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/1aacbb05e071dc7c0d28436021ecfffa.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/0bb17c3c7b8de15151778c85952abe8f.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-16-2023, 10:24 PM
I've heard that the bottom four bolts need be sealed or else they may leak oil. So the wife removed them, cleaned off the anti-seize, and put hylomar on the threads.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/d4f52202a4216eaadf5845431f486fa1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/019728eb7325c7edb5bfc00f122c0cf7.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-16-2023, 10:26 PM
I still don't see how this hose coupling is supposed to work here. It looks like the hose will hit on the sensor.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/b84c574759d7cdd0e81aaf7e735dc297.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/1bd09623b0ab5ada22df58389a131b78.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-16-2023, 10:33 PM
We jumped into rebuilding the spark distributor next. I didn't really have anything to go by so I just tried to figure out how it was supposed to come apart.
While I was taking things apart the wife vapor blasted the distributor housing. It looks a lot better but you can really see how corroded it was,....is.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/ee28489d10dd822b2bd5dbbf929a33f2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/6654a3365b9f0d7905ca4ba7385892f3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/81ba8a91d852041a0f70cade67c7f11e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/f2b5eb565c4b5c7afd816276814a3414.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/bd92ed04536d726fa55b7edb7d6d6a75.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/0745f8b1a7e6d261f24e9cba72d39ecc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/bcf7d0b8f8a5af604a0d7e0dd7a17b6d.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-16-2023, 10:35 PM
I managed to lose the spark advance spring but my wife found it. I broke a little piece off from the plastic piece that the spring hooks onto. Hopefully that won't cause any issues. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/7ea4e5f187821450cd4c77819fae73e5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/85ca0fa2b35e944fb87527004e9cb645.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-16-2023, 10:37 PM
We removed the felt from inside the dist. housing, cleaned it, and reoiled it. Did similar with the other moving parts for the spark advance.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/c8dadad2b898f855317e61322f817653.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/86aa7c34ccf70178aef52acdab415d14.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-16-2023, 10:39 PM
Here are some before and afters of the housing.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/7dfebf9eaafa68fb029490613ae94a83.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/911a7fd9d379461cf8916baa1d930e40.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/88806324ac6a1a3415f8dddbdf5cf5cd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/0f25d11528a52b692bb4d556ebdec5d1.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-17-2023, 03:00 PM
Before I left the shop, I made a list of parts needed. I somehow ended up short on some bolts for the valve covers, bolts for the chain case cover, all the spring washers for the valve covers, etc. I also now need some parts for the distributor.

Today I took my list and ordered parts from D-go and some from DMCH.
While I was on the DMCH site, I searched a few parts that nobody seems to have or be able to get and was happy to see that they have them listed. I filed that in the back of my mind. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/b0e475efb2b9fa1baf6e2377bf3b47dd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231217/d3cf4f51cc802bd44c6afcd1e1b15b6b.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-21-2023, 07:49 PM
Parts from D-Go showed up yesterday. Once again I am amazed with how quickly I received my order. I was pleasantly surprised to find new headlight adjustment screws in my order. At first I thought they screwed up on my order but then I remembered way back on my last order I emailed Aran and told him that the adjustment screws on my headlight mounts were not plated very well. He said he'd send some different screws on my next order. I had completely forgotten, but he hadn't.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/0994b987ae96b3251b96e6bd52c390ed.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/9e8bcaeeee359bd19fd3bb1d153a80c0.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-21-2023, 07:53 PM
I have never installed a speed sleeve before. Seems like a pretty simple concept. Originally I thought that the engine pulley, transmission output flanges, etc. Had to be machined then the sleeve pressed on. I didn't realize that they are really thin and push on right over the unmodified parts. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/434e23ea7432d8db212c0cb54065e6b6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/4f502d1941c0385afcc8566557aa756c.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-21-2023, 07:56 PM
Here's the latest booty from D-gohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/c6b65aee464912201fd3b2fbca7423b8.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-21-2023, 08:00 PM
The parts we ordered from DMCH showed up today. Impressive packaging although I could see this being a problem if you didn't want the mail service people to know that you have a Delorean.
The parts were very well packaged and labeled. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/7c2838f8b74ac4795767549204d57bd9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/96bc171611130fe24e49547355843718.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-21-2023, 08:03 PM
This is one part that isn't worth trying to fix up. Unfortunately I didn't know that until I saw it on the DMCH website so my wife had already spent time and effort trying to remove the rust from the original one. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/697b8981e9c1e922d19e159965cdccd9.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-21-2023, 08:07 PM
This part on the other hand,....is worth restoring. The replacement is very pricey and also it seems like it has no plating or very weak plating to keep it from rusting.
I sealed mine off as good as I could. Blasted it in the glass bead blasting booth. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/830faf96973b7a94b30061290cfbec76.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/a1aee1e3c74d0f317dac67d026b8ba58.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/c4aa6bfc51fe96c02e1e08e06517973f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/3f6462358c2ea8fba792bc8d4ec876a4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/1e78dd9e94f070dec7ce410148059deb.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-21-2023, 08:10 PM
After blasting I removed the temporary seal and blew out both sides of the diaphragm housing with compressed air.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/e79925fdd8404d64ff87c5926f5980f9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/e1cbc388a5bb1d307c494d0fc0a43ad4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/bf385f3c45449c2d5342c2ddd1c19c66.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-21-2023, 08:13 PM
Sprayed the part with fast evaporating degreaser, primed it, painted with cast aluminum engine paint (the closest thing to looking like zinc plated), then painted with a coat of clear coat engine paint.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/6efa431f7883d61abcce062f3281d24f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/5e809ffe19b5571ee978934bdd492218.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231222/b849749c5d8fa7babe2f9583ddbb22b5.jpg

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Helirich
12-22-2023, 11:56 AM
That sure changed. It looks good enough for my car. (Doesn?t look good enough for yours)

SupercoolBill
12-22-2023, 01:28 PM
That sure changed. It looks good enough for my car. (Doesn?t look good enough for yours)Yeah I know right? It's kind of hidden out back once the engine is in the car.

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SupercoolBill
12-23-2023, 04:23 PM
I was told to make sure I test the vacuum actuator so I did. Seems okay.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231223/2b6c5f9e69590de1ddc1f86221580860.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-23-2023, 04:24 PM
I was looking though my pictures. Quite a transformation so farhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231223/8607ba2d3b8770ebcccf32d509047831.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231223/fd128e3bbb1760f59a09b9d20ab86898.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231223/481aaae84eab1be642b4178174ecb3e2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231223/96ad8ba286bac27198ab45512ea3fd91.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-25-2023, 07:43 PM
Got a kit of modern style connectors for Christmas.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231226/0171e92bf1e5a9e174f6b1cc056e96b2.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-25-2023, 07:50 PM
I tried the stereo in our car before we took the battery out. It turned on but no sound came out so I think it may be junk. Even if it isn't junk I would rather box it up and pack it away rather than use it.
So decisions need to be made. Do we stick with a tape player for that full 80s experience or get a modern single DIN head unit with bluetooth and perhaps even a unit that can accept a rear camera, handsfree calling, etc.
Our Miata came with the original stereo in it which has a tape player. We thought it was awesome at first. We even bought a bunch of cassette tapes. But now we never listen to tapes. We usually just listen to the radio and I sometimes wish it had Bluetooth.
Anyone know if the inexpensive Chinese Single DIN stereos loaded with features are any good?

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ssdelorean
12-27-2023, 01:48 PM
Go high or go home!
https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/but-wait-theres-more/a1912791/must-have-accessory-well-equipped-1980s-driver-2-screen-dash-tv/

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Helirich
12-27-2023, 08:40 PM
I tried the stereo in our car before we took the battery out. It turned on but no sound came out so I think it may be junk. Even if it isn't junk I would rather box it up and pack it away rather than use it.
So decisions need to be made. Do we stick with a tape player for that full 80s experience or get a modern single DIN head unit with bluetooth and perhaps even a unit that can accept a rear camera, handsfree calling, etc.
Our Miata came with the original stereo in it which has a tape player. We thought it was awesome at first. We even bought a bunch of cassette tapes. But now we never listen to tapes. We usually just listen to the radio and I sometimes wish it had Bluetooth.
Anyone know if the inexpensive Chinese Single DIN stereos loaded with features are any good?

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I have a double din Chinese stereo in my truck. I find it hard to work. The instructions are worthless. I have a grand nephew that is good with computers and he got some of the things working, but even he couldn?t get some stuff to work. It seems to work if you know how.

SupercoolBill
12-27-2023, 09:02 PM
I didn't want to just go home after work and veg out but I also felt guilty working on the car without my wife since we have been doing this together all along so I spent 3 hours sorting out tools, cleaning up, and rearranging the top drawer of my toolbox.
Toolboxes are like garages. No matter what size you may THINK that you need, go bigger because it will be full in no time.

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Timeless
12-28-2023, 09:45 AM
So decisions need to be made. Do we stick with a tape player for that full 80s experience or get a modern single DIN head unit with bluetooth and perhaps even a unit that can accept a rear camera, handsfree calling, etc.
Our Miata came with the original stereo in it which has a tape player. We thought it was awesome at first. We even bought a bunch of cassette tapes. But now we never listen to tapes. We usually just listen to the radio and I sometimes wish it had Bluetooth.
Anyone know if the inexpensive Chinese Single DIN stereos loaded with features are any good?
I went with an Alpine non-CD BT head unit - $110. on Amazon. Auto-connect BT for music streaming is great and the microphone for hands-free phone calling is small and discreet fitting perfectly into the gap between the binnacle and console without the need to drill/cut/hack the original material. Luckily my car's PO had the DMCH audio upgrade w/sub so it was easy decision to pop in a modern BT head unit. Plus, the sound quality is improved. I hate radio today and haven't listened to the FM/AM in decades.

SupercoolBill
12-28-2023, 10:47 AM
I went with an Alpine non-CD BT head unit - $110. on Amazon. Auto-connect BT for music streaming is great and the microphone for hands-free phone calling is small and discreet fitting perfectly into the gap between the binnacle and console without the need to drill/cut/hack the original material. Luckily my car's PO had the DMCH audio upgrade w/sub so it was easy decision to pop in a modern BT head unit. Plus, the sound quality is improved. I hate radio today and haven't listened to the FM/AM in decades.What model is that one? Does it look old? I either want one that still looks old or ill just jump up with something with all the bells and whistles so I can have a back up camera etc.

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Timeless
12-28-2023, 11:24 AM
It doesn't look period correct but it's not too flashy like a double-DIN unit. Retro Sound is an option.

https://www.amazon.com/Alpine-UTE-73BT-Advanced-Bluetooth-Mech-less/dp/B07BJM6H51/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2XMVHMJMBV31D&keywords=alpine+car+stereo&qid=1703780471&sprefix=alpine+%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840

https://www.retromanufacturing.com/collections/vehicle-search/products/1981-83-delorean-retroradio?rq=yr_1981%7Emk_DeLorean%7Emd_Select-Model

SupercoolBill
12-28-2023, 10:01 PM
Can you change the lighting color?

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SupercoolBill
12-28-2023, 10:05 PM
Tonight we installed missing washers and bolts on the valve covers. We prepped the crank pulley, put hylomar on the inside of the Speedi-sleeve, then installed it onto the crank pulley. Pretty easy job.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/3d3e72a13dd425fb2bc954d83e6d97b4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/8caa8d827cb2b2e4949730dac343c8d6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/4598ccf20619f4a62828c5827ba4c53c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/1d6065c064281b7d43a8caada8234a28.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-28-2023, 10:13 PM
We also assembled the distributor. It seems like no matter how many pictures you take at whatever angle, there is always something you missed. The manual doesn't go into rebuilding the distributor. Pictures of this distributors on line are difficult to find also. I wanted the vacuum advance to be sealed well at the connection to the distributor body so we used gray RTV. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/e5fcf6ea7637999da2497000032d46f9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/7f6738f5c42a3be1a0948d28ec6681cc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/26418e4d08441124469feaf4ff8b86e6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/789dc7c4400742143eca24262e9b9cde.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/54c4b93a2371ce18f6185fc0fac9bbd4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/ea91dce95eaf9e583b50fc371bba156f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/4362d123928b78713b224b425d89a596.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/fd6c8768806f2481f23559de667246e7.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-28-2023, 10:18 PM
I gave my wife the job of installing the #tinypin. She was thrilled. At one point it went flying and she got very mad. It was so much fun. Haha. She got it eventually. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/4d468e22260fbb04f96b19556b524d04.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/3b385bee1bab1298c0005cfe09da52da.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-28-2023, 10:20 PM
I had the wife work on centering the.....thingy.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/653bd6e9306c9ea490ad00686ebf9794.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-28-2023, 10:22 PM
Rebuilt vacuum advance, new clips, new stainless steel screws with anti-seize https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/e654ff61474e5efc58f8f96b248ffea4.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-28-2023, 10:26 PM
We installed the rotor button, dist. cap, and installed the distributor on the engine with the rotor button pointed at plug wire #1. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/7ca781cf2fd2b1379cc13f6f72ac2a54.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/c25e756c3f8ca32b244176cc41fc3945.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/1d25f15f6ae5b9cf993251b48eb83743.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231229/2188cc0455b0e2cc0d21dc28870809c9.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-31-2023, 09:46 PM
Waiting on a couple of missing parts from Josh at D-Ind, so we decided to tear into the transmission.
I was a bit hesitant to jump into opening up this transmission. I have worked on motorcycle transmissions, and I have worked on automotive differentials before, but I've never messed around with an automotive transmission before.
We had already removed the tailpiece a while back so that part was already done. As we pulled it out I remembered how nasty dirty this thing was.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/d43ec161d8ca20640844dac6fa31e8bf.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/8446915d2fe20b03d28d2d337d6d37a8.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-31-2023, 09:57 PM
We set it up on the bench....let me pause for a moment to say how blessed we are. Many years ago my wife and I lived in a single wide mobile home and we did mechanic work out of a 12'x12' shed. I swapped out the engine in a 1982 Chevy pickup outdoors in the winter. Now we have this awesome shop with this large heavy duty steel bench. And our house? It's a nice ranch style house that we just paid off the mortgage on. So blessed....but years of hard work too. Anyways I degress.....
Once we had the transmission on the bench I noticed this 5th gear cog (synchro gear?) Looked damaged. On one part of it the peaks are missing from the teeth. It is hard to explain but if you look at the pictures you'll see what I mean.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/59a5440bb51b7edeec44d93314b40a47.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/8d0c5eee9f6c8216db7c48b80916d793.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-31-2023, 10:01 PM
We used the procedure to lock up the transmission and cracked the nuts loose. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/13e0c6fac5b37228a50af309acdf19ec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/eacf16b0d4539fb412beb86d980370c6.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-31-2023, 10:04 PM
More disassembly pictures.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/431654cbbf67fbb30251c6b89115a929.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/58bbf5c33bab6c833d9ab1ac432d074a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/91ba35ba162a2e38402109147c7b268f.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-31-2023, 10:07 PM
I marked the location of the adjustment ring because chances are it will end up back in the same location or close to it. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/d04f39ea7847f62bc044f271591ce3d5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/79a4f504e27af369661ec24e71356815.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-31-2023, 10:10 PM
And with a few whacks from the dead blow hammer the transmission opened up.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/b883d5e6be4adf9b775582ebb9d43f52.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/13ac7a923a20be3546d1f91e3f497fdd.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-31-2023, 10:17 PM
I found something in the bottom of the transmission. At first I was like "What the heck is this?" It turns out it was a factory magnet with goo all over it. Which is basically digested steel. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/2428065b4a35ec26a24f41e271a742f6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/9b977a4c36c2b5cb2f2ed72f2017f8fb.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-31-2023, 10:18 PM
More disassembly photos https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/d067055681893f404bad40888d1c36f3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/be654e072028ac4144c669159a157460.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/c4b6626c0005b9909de892c41408cab2.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-31-2023, 10:28 PM
Next up removing the shifting shafts. This was new for me. I never have messed around with shift shafts like this.....not that I can remember anyways.
I was worried about pushing the roll pins through (is there enough space to drive them out?) So I messaged my buddy Andy L. (82DMC). He said there is enough room to drive them through...just barely.
I found the method that worked best for me was to rotate the shift shafts after the roll pins were removed then I could easily slide them out. You have to cup your hand over detent springs and balls so you don't lose them when you pull the shaft out. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/1501b022232dd3cf955922d33c8dd827.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/bff6f26fd2f8195014812186b93d1796.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/afe69b79534a41a214b6dc9a4ee93ae5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/c429efa74f002e03b1353e0fe75e8465.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/b401e60168dff3aa7134c0c51be2b9f9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/2a67f7d91c183b31a4856c415729c1cb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/7e577522ce02befc0fcafcd327886042.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-31-2023, 10:32 PM
While I was looking at the shafts this small tapered bearing slid right off the shaft. I also found that the pinion bearing slid easily on the shaft. This doesn't seem right to me. It seems like these should be press fit on there.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/b5773075624fd5c8c9cecb3b01c962fe.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/48e6ad86e28a6540fcf8438ce0c34c21.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/61d9ce5e8bebbc1119ed9e92c6338787.jpg

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SupercoolBill
12-31-2023, 10:39 PM
We cleaned everything in the parts cleaner (kerosene) then in our heated high pressure parts cleaner.
We made a list of needed parts. We also took all of the removed bolts, washers, and nuts and looked through our order of new hardware from Belmetric. We bagged and tagged everything.

So in the end the transmission job turned out to not be that big of a deal...so far.
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SupercoolBill
12-31-2023, 10:43 PM
I'm wondering if I should replace this, try to have a machine shop fix it, see if they make a repair sleeve to fit it, or just run it as is. I am worried about oil leaking past the seal.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/f5a6ff3bb2388bc76f10be82c6a11174.jpg

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Helirich
01-01-2024, 10:28 AM
While I was looking at the shafts this small tapered bearing slid right off the shaft. I also found that the pinion bearing slid easily on the shaft. This doesn't seem right to me. It seems like these should be press fit on there.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/b5773075624fd5c8c9cecb3b01c962fe.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/48e6ad86e28a6540fcf8438ce0c34c21.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240101/61d9ce5e8bebbc1119ed9e92c6338787.jpg

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Yea, I don?t think they should slide. The thing that sucks is the shaft is probably under size rather than the bearing oversized. If their not real loose, you could assemble them with locktite. They make a locktite called ?press-fit? with titanium in it. I?ve used it before with some success. (Never in your location)

SupercoolBill
01-01-2024, 09:18 PM
Today I was texting the previous owner of the car giving him an update. I asked him for the phone number of the guy that owned the car before him. I don't know why I never thought of this before. I called the previous owner. We had a nice talk about the car. Sounds like he only owned it for a couple of years around 1999. I hoping he wouldn't remember the car as being something great that he never should have sold because I wanted to be honest with him about how much time and money we've had to put into this car. Luckily he beat me to it stating that the car was in such bad shape that it probably should have been parted out rather than fixed up. I got a good laugh out of that and totally agreed. He brought up a good point. He said he really liked the car and DID want to do a restoration on it back then but he said they were not worth much back then so back then it would have been a huge waste of money to fix it all up. I texted him some progress pics and asked him if he had any old paperwork on the car. He said he'd look and see if he had anything left. Pretty cool.

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SupercoolBill
01-01-2024, 09:23 PM
Back to the transmission rebuild. I was thinking of removing this blank off plate and re-plating it. Oddly while looking at it this piece fell out from behind it.
In the end I decided to let sleeping dogs lie and not disturb it.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/fea88d3dd8b26000e520efec95cde9a8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/8f09f5e59fcbabe874f86462ed5836a5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/5f306e69550301223edd1fec637ae84d.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-01-2024, 09:27 PM
This piece fell out of this hole in the transmission.
I looked it up in the parts manual. I guess it is a vent piece for the transmission [emoji1745]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/49e478b188e0250303d9f42e0d37a58d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/8c915f16cbc4488334e420b7b0e93d05.jpg

SupercoolBill
01-01-2024, 09:34 PM
The cases got dry blasted then wet blasted by the wife while I inspected the transmission internals and made a parts list.
After the case halves were done I dried them off with compressed air. Rather than messing around with painting the blank off plate I just coated it with gray RTV.
I sprayed both case halves to protect them.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/76d8f7cc35f4fcbe52a5e98c0de068fb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/8b95be4e39fe55072370bbe2435e6d78.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/f2de9c4b29374abad7202895dd9dc733.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-01-2024, 09:43 PM
I removed the adjuster nut. Cleaned it up, removed the metal plate, the o-ring, the seal, and cleaned the o-ring mating surface.
Man the seals came out hard! I managed to ding up the inside if the adjuster nut removing the seal. I cleaned it up with sand cloth.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/e763c658f9f1f0df8eb09e3b479abe26.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/fb7dd26dcc74cb395cd462b7f530eb4c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/350f4677fe87f04556486321827d9b6b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/90e02fbf8f65874ccd04fa52f536ee3b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/bd2686581a6b0fc2bd83e2c47f54b8bf.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/c65f17d6c96bc7ec26b3e3c51e747d44.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-01-2024, 09:46 PM
On the parts diagram I noticed this o-ring. I don't think that most people replace this one.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/2dddf35c5e5dbd1883bfd2886226ad2d.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-01-2024, 09:48 PM
I compared the seal for the output shaft to the new one. They seem very similar. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/d24340b6236dfbea197ca592a2cc2967.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/b3d2a76c04c92c2d1d63606bd3b33c7b.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-01-2024, 09:50 PM
I checked the cogs for all of the gears. They all look pretty good. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/1914ced942fc2d2c8642ed8d10d77190.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/a9d17f643b5e83491011a488be9d45d8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/706ee10cf299352961be73ace6e30420.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-01-2024, 09:57 PM
I talked to someone that has rebuilt several of these transmissions and he said it is normal for this gear to look like this. He sent this picture and said the following:

"The little teeth missing on fifth seem to be a common thing. They dont harm the function of the transaxle missing.

Both bearings not being a press fit is normal. Inspect the rollers and races but everything is likely to be just fine to be cleaned and re installed. At most people will replace the differential bearings."

I am not sure why nobody replaces any of the other bearings but they replace the differential bearings.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/6fbf9413457cdea4138c0a1b4de70948.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240102/7ccd795b1e0acd25b3bc7177f5138434.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-05-2024, 12:53 PM
A couple of days ago I made my first purchase from Rob Grady. I have to admit I have let the fact that his set up (website, ordering system, etc.) is kind of old school deter me from ordering from him up until recently but I really wanted to give him my business because he is thr most local vendor to me, I've been hearing good things about his offerings, he is a small business like myself, and because he is one of the most knowledgeable guys on these cars in the world.
I couldn't be more pleased with my recently purchased items. The parts arrived quickly, the quality is top notch, and the prices are on par.
I received reconditioned output flanges with custom stainless steel sleeves installed, rare NOS type seals with wipers, a rebuilt clutch slave with brass bushing, a double lip seal for the crankshaft, a new clutch hose, and o ring for the differential adjuster nut.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240105/0d83233be2609de41212e5c1cd53e60c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240105/bd651f9d02ad30b54b2bab0cd3c076e7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240105/1ddaa88cefeebbfe492a4b87d08a9785.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-06-2024, 06:58 PM
We worked on the transmission again today.
My wife did all the work on cleaning it up. She spent hours on it. I told her not to worry about it being perfect. We still have a broken off starter bolt and clutch slave cylendar bolt that both need to be drilled out.

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SupercoolBill
01-06-2024, 07:08 PM
I tried installing the input shaft seal over the coupler. I didn't like how much I was having to stretch the seal to try to get it over the coupler so I removed the coupler, cleaned the splines, put anti-seize on the splines, installed the seal, and installed the coupler.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/3dd39e5e261d05adf3b1ef59acc9a062.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/3011311eb96633e18bcd27284b465025.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/41b967e00f5fedfc2859904e7539004b.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-06-2024, 07:11 PM
I installed the magnet and stuck it in place with some Hylomar so it wouldn't fall out while working on the transmission.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/9db92d996058a1f30d359e613f5bda36.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-06-2024, 07:21 PM
I always wondered why fluid doesn't leak out of the roll pin holes on the transmission output flanges. Now I know why. There are o-rings on the differential carrier. They get compressed when the roll pins get driven into the flanges through the shafts.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/d8496a513cd700b9895084b55d6f1c20.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/22ebb85c06cb5348015acec13d4c4c3c.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-06-2024, 07:26 PM
We installed the shifting rodshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/0f2bb45038a5792fa14da834d96667ec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/1877bf548de377543fc9eef2697da375.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-06-2024, 07:29 PM
We did the roll pin inside a roll pin modification.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/3cf4f62396f8b032c99e4fd6daf41f51.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/f6452491fc45097bb6f0fd2bd83d19f6.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-06-2024, 07:33 PM
I was glad to have the two of us for this next part. I held back the spring with some hose pliers. It worked pretty well with two people. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/2bfb78c496aa0c2be533877bd0cd76dc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/789d3bb4ee7452c3ffeb484e25f34be1.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-06-2024, 07:34 PM
Called it a night at this point.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/57fe0a23469f1f6e534e4e4351ae5cec.jpg

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82DMC12
01-06-2024, 07:45 PM
Called it a night at this point.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/57fe0a23469f1f6e534e4e4351ae5cec.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-06-2024, 08:11 PM
Did you double up the second roll pin too?

Sent from my Pixel 6a using TapatalkThe one on the other side of the spring?

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82DMC12
01-06-2024, 08:12 PM
The one on the other side of the spring?

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SupercoolBill
01-06-2024, 08:15 PM
I didn't know that one was an issue. I may see if I can come up with another pin to put in there. My worry is if the outer pin starts moving down as we are installing the inner pin that's going to turn into a nightmare.

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Helirich
01-07-2024, 04:07 PM
I was glad to have the two of us for this next part. I held back the spring with some hose pliers. It worked pretty well with two people. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240107/2bfb78c496aa0c2be533877bd0cd76dc.jpg


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SupercoolBill
01-07-2024, 05:56 PM
Cool pliers.Yeah I spent 20 years not having these. Then one day I saw a set of three sizes in Harbor F. Money well spent. Game changer for pulling off rubber hoses in tough to reach places.

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SupercoolBill
01-08-2024, 09:54 PM
Tonight after work we decided to work on snapped off bolts removal. We were tempted to just assemble the transmission and work on the broken bolts later. I am really glad we didn't. You'll see why later so here we go.

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SupercoolBill
01-08-2024, 09:59 PM
Bolt #1. Clutch slave mounting bolt. Whacked the bolt with a hammer, clamped on vise grips, heated the bell housing, wiggled the bolt back and forth starting with tiny movement at first then more.
One down three to go.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/409467e5cdac8f0d560b67f86fc655e8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/e6b223854e3e97fd10274e54a90066b3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/5f05c90861dda4e9dc4ced0f71c9781f.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-08-2024, 10:07 PM
Bolt #2. I think this one hold on the sheetmetal plate that holds the flywheel sensor. Heated the bell housing, drilled with LH drill bits. No movement. Tried and easy-out. I've never had luck using these.
I ended up just drilling bigger and bigger until I got to the correct size for a M7 Helicoil. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/f8cb6a5290dd9c0c0804ed9fac1671b7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/b227c7e81909f60dde94af2ddca8d511.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/c27adc9740e422f4f8ab3cd41133250e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/fe0ea36e968ef8fa4f3e3f483af01626.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-08-2024, 10:12 PM
With the hole tapped I was able to install a Helicoil. I have had a Helicoil back out while loosening a bolt before so I like to put a spot of thread locker on the threads. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/892251682cbfdad003f47c3544baff5f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/585ad41e1422cd927d09a4113b0f5977.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/eb6070d6f826573920193c188b88fcbb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/e02672f051b212764127855c88cfd39b.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-08-2024, 10:19 PM
Bolt #3....the SOB....
I did a horrible job center drilling the bolt. Not off to a good start. Then I accidentally drilled through the transmission half. Ugh.....[emoji19]
Around this time my wife walked up while I was huffing and puffing. She calmly looked at the situation and started trying to get what was left of the bolt out with a punch (which I had already tried). In the end we just ended up drilling out the boss until the remains of the bolt were gone. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/9180e838c1b2e8c362b87606191d8e01.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/2fc6278d46228fbac06ee741e6017124.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/3dccdf5b6ba863f7560b2c89e4fe33da.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-08-2024, 10:22 PM
The wife vapor blasted the flywheel, measured the pin reveal, then drove out the pins.
We were going to just blast the flywheel and call it good but now we can see that there is some corrosion damage on the flywheel so it needs to be turned down some. That will get dropped off tomorrow. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/fd34eaacd1d18cc127ea1732f964a154.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/4b4ba1060aad8264fca58bbe63e2efbc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/ceda28eb0a0b27c8e8200bf4ff5556cb.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-08-2024, 10:38 PM
This rubber flap was one of the few parts on the car that I thought we wouldn't need to replace but upon further inspection we could see the rubber was cracked and failing. So off it comes. The rivets just crumbled away when I tried to dril them out.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/1c5bb182137f48ac58806259174d032f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/9a1c96891253363d79ec545b0e69d71a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/00810132a5bb02aa9b77603d94463a42.jpg

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WHO1DMC
01-09-2024, 03:15 AM
The wife vapor blasted the flywheel, measured the pin reveal, then drove out the pins.
We were going to just blast the flywheel and call it good but now we can see that there is some corrosion damage on the flywheel so it needs to be turned down some. That will get dropped off tomorrow. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/fd34eaacd1d18cc127ea1732f964a154.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/4b4ba1060aad8264fca58bbe63e2efbc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240109/ceda28eb0a0b27c8e8200bf4ff5556cb.jpg

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Mark D
01-09-2024, 10:41 AM
I haven't commented in this thread much, but I am following along and look forward to each update. Thanks for continuing to document the process in such great detail as well as the hurdles you've encountered along the way. This is one of the few threads that keeps me coming back to DMCTalk, so keep up the great work!

Helirich
01-09-2024, 11:35 AM
I haven't commented in this thread much, but I am following along and look forward to each update. Thanks for continuing to document the process in such great detail as well as the hurdles you've encountered along the way. This is one of the few threads that keeps me coming back to DMCTalk, so keep up the great work!

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SupercoolBill
01-11-2024, 05:36 PM
I haven't commented in this thread much, but I am following along and look forward to each update. Thanks for continuing to document the process in such great detail as well as the hurdles you've encountered along the way. This is one of the few threads that keeps me coming back to DMCTalk, so keep up the great work!Glad you like it. Thanks Mark!

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SupercoolBill
01-11-2024, 05:36 PM
X2Thanks [emoji4]

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SupercoolBill
01-11-2024, 05:41 PM
Two days ago I dropped the case half off to a buddy of mine to have him TIG weld the hole back in so we can re-thread it again. Unfortunately when I was drilling out the old bolt I accidentally went through the case so just doing a Helicoil wasn't an option anymore.
He got it done that night and I picked it up yesterday. He only charged me $25 (I gave him $50).https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240111/179b85e591e651129c92a23a7faa199a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240111/aede7c51a7c48b16107d7b02f54cf6d7.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-11-2024, 05:48 PM
We were happy to be on the right track. I didn't want to just drill a hole in the center of the boss incase it didn't line up with the bracket. So I bolted on the transmission rear section with the gasket in there to make sure it was 100% accurate. I used a center punch to make a centered punch mark. If you work on stuff or fabricate stuff and you don't have a center punch kit...GET ONE!! So handy.
Much to my surprise that gave me a punch mark way off from center. So now what do I do? If I drill in the center off the boss then it may not line up with the bracket. But if I line up with the center of the bracket the hole won't be centered in the boss. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240111/6a31d1cfd20bc949268fdebe2759b6ea.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240111/bfbbc4a5662b2ff01466adda5a5b71e6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240111/6e0cd79ca27df5c314a1f4583b34e1d3.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-11-2024, 06:00 PM
I had my wife remove the tail section of the transmission so we could lay the case half down flat. Suddenly the case dropped....bending the gasket and snapping it in half. So now we need a new gasket.

Since we already had a deep punch mark in the boss I decided to go with that option.
We measured how deep we wanted to go on our drill bits, put tape on the bits, and started drilling. I was drilling and suddenly the bit just dropped in further. I looked through the hole with a flashlight. As far as I could tell my buddy left a void in there when we welded up the boss. I went up to the correct bit size for the M8 tap. The same thing happened "clunk" I broke through then dropped into a void. Lovely..[emoji19]
I tried drilling past the void but it wasn't going smoothly so I stopped. We decided to just tap the first 12mm or so and see how that goes. I had my wife tap it. She went through the top section, through the void, and was trying to tap into the next section which we hadn't really drilled very far.
I told her to be careful because aluminum strips out easily. Well....I'm pretty sure she went too hard and started to booger the threads. We tried a M8 bolt in it. I didn't like how loose it fit. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240111/a22d01bdff7ca4398a39c34ae5f56d74.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240111/a179ec612621076eb81521b67a7cf146.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-11-2024, 06:14 PM
What a frustrating night....ugh....I am not blaming anything on the wife. I could have made the same mistakes. It is hard to not get frustrated though.
I called around and found a store that had a M8 Helicoil kit so we went and bought it. Well that cost $54. Geez....So now we are over $100 into this stuipid broken bolt repair.
We drilled and tapped for the Helicoil. My wife had never done one before so I had her do it. I am not sure if I have mentioned this before but I always put some thread locker on the threads before threading in the insert. I have had Helicoil inserts back out with the bolt before. It turns into a mess. So now I lock them in.
So the wife screwed the insert in. I told her to go until it was flush or just below the surface, but I could see that it suddenly got harder to turn so I told her to stop. I didn't want to push our luck so I left it there and cut off the little bit of excess with a Dremel tool.
We punched out the inner tang and fished it out. We threaded a bolt in. It felt WAY better! Nice snug solid fit. [emoji108] This will work. We just need to make sure we use a shorter bolt on this side.

After all the back luck we decided to quit on a win and call it a night. She went home and I went to the brewery up the road for a beer [emoji481] and a burger [emoji488] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240111/90f9eb8d1909bc334c5e72ff419dd8dc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240111/3c62ffc7f3f04045439798c6390468c3.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-11-2024, 06:16 PM
I was messaging Rob Grady and asked if the gasket could be used and he recommended not to use it.
He said he'd send me one free of charge due to my recent purchases. Awesome! [emoji41]

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82DMC12
01-11-2024, 08:19 PM
I was messaging Rob Grady and asked if the gasket could be used and he recommended not to use it.
He said he'd send me one free of charge due to my recent purchases. Awesome! [emoji41]

Sent from my SM-F926U1 using TapatalkWhat a swell guy!

When I did my frame off I had two or three pretty frustrating situations where things did not go the way they should have and snowballed into a worse situation. But, each time I had patience, an open wallet lol, and eventually made it through. Keep it up!

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SupercoolBill
01-11-2024, 08:29 PM
What a swell guy!

When I did my frame off I had two or three pretty frustrating situations where things did not go the way they should have and snowballed into a worse situation. But, each time I had patience, an open wallet lol, and eventually made it through. Keep it up!

Sent from my Pixel 6a using TapatalkThen someone sees your car now that it is all perfect and they say "It must be nice" or "Can I drive your car?" And can't understand why you say no. [emoji848]

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Helirich
01-11-2024, 09:27 PM
Good out come!

Mark D
01-12-2024, 10:26 AM
Glad you finally got that one hole on the trans case figured taken care of. I've had similar experiences on other projects where there always seems to be something that fights you extra hard the entire way. Way to keep at it!

and that was nice of Rob to hook you up with a new gasket too.

SupercoolBill
01-12-2024, 03:25 PM
Glad you finally got that one hole on the trans case figured taken care of. I've had similar experiences on other projects where there always seems to be something that fights you extra hard the entire way. Way to keep at it!

and that was nice of Rob to hook you up with a new gasket too.Thanks Mark.

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SupercoolBill
01-12-2024, 03:40 PM
More parts showed up today.
A pulley end crank seal and a special bolt and spacer from D-Ind. These were parts that I never recived in my bulk order from D-Ind way back when. I also received the transmission selector shaft and o-ring from Delorean EU.
I am hoping that this is the NOS seal and not just one of the new ones that doesn't fit right. If it is we will just put something on the OD to make it lock in place. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240112/cbe8a324994671b3b3412559d0934f8a.jpg

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82DMC12
01-12-2024, 03:52 PM
More parts showed up today.
A pulley end crank seal and a special bolt and spacer from D-Ind. These were parts that I never recived in my bulk order from D-Ind way back when. I also received the transmission selector shaft and o-ring from Delorean EU.
I am hoping that this is the NOS seal and not just one of the new ones that doesn't fit right. If it is we will just put something on the OD to make it lock in place.

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I wonder if some heat shrink tubing on the selector shaft would take up too much space under the seal? I have a variety pack of heat shrink tubing and I'm sure some of the larger pieces would fit over the shaft.

SupercoolBill
01-12-2024, 04:01 PM
I wonder if some heat shrink tubing on the selector shaft would take up too much space under the seal? I have a variety pack of heat shrink tubing and I'm sure some of the larger pieces would fit over the shaft.I was thinking of the same thing for the original shaft where it had the corrosion damage. Just put a sleeve of heat shrink over it. I would guess that ot would wear out though after a while.
I was under the impression that the portion of the new seals that didn't fit right was the OD of the seal into the case. Is that not correct? Is it the ID onto the shaft that is not correct?

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82DMC12
01-12-2024, 04:12 PM
I was thinking of the same thing for the original shaft where it had the corrosion damage. Just put a sleeve of heat shrink over it. I would guess that ot would wear out though after a while.
I was under the impression that the portion of the new seals that didn't fit right was the OD of the seal into the case. Is that not correct? Is it the ID onto the shaft that is not correct?

Sent from my SM-F926U1 using TapatalkI'm not sure. The seal I installed came from Midwest and it was fairly difficult to tap in perfectly. I don't know where the leak is.

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SupercoolBill
01-13-2024, 09:54 PM
Nothing too exciting today. More like necessary evil.
My buddy wanted to use our vapor blaster. So he volunteered to help me service my equipment.
He took apart the blower on the dust recovery unit for the dry blast system. It's been making some weird noises then siezed up.
He found one of the motor bearings completely destroyed. He found one on Amazon. Later on I found the whole blower on Amazon for around $100 so I may just buy that. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/2e716407682bd8994492d3f995162474.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/3b768b7aa4e10355e51f0797987d4835.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-13-2024, 10:02 PM
My buddy replaced the media hose on my red blasting booth which has Slag media in it. AKA Black Beauty. I cleaned out my heated enclosed pressure washer. The pump didn't sound good the other day so I figured maybe the filter was plugged. This thing was GROSS!! There was like 2" of stuff like diarrhea in the bottom up the sump. The pump filter WAS intact plugged. The hanging sock filters were a greasy mess.
I feel like such a bad equipment owner.
After I had it all cleaned out I filled it with new water and Simple Green Crystal Clean and tested it out. Pump sounded much better. Hopefully I didn't damage it by running it with the filter plugged.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/5c4e18e0dfc8919c387109e510819c22.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/8fdf9faffa01e332199ecd35a9fcd630.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/04c9fefa0919eb8edfba4462a90bed43.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/f78371159de51d12af06e9c0f79c159f.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-13-2024, 10:10 PM
Last but not least we tackled the vapor blaster. The water smelled like old grease and oil. The media was slimy. We drained the machine, the filter boxes, cleaned out all of the media, degreased everything, etc.
I didn't have any new fine grit (small glass beads) for this machine but what I DID HAVE was the beat up media that i just removed from my dry blaster. It started out as 80 grit but felt really powdery now so I decided to use it in the vapor blaster.
The windshield washer hadn't worked for several months so I fixed that.
I showed my buddy how to test to see if you had enough media in the machine. We added some more fine media that I had then we tested it out on an old piece of brass. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240114/8e692d4371f55ba64e19a4abcec46483.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-13-2024, 10:12 PM
Still more work to be done but we got some good progress.
We made a huge mess cleaning this stuff up so after he left I spent 2 hours cleaning up and putting stuff away.

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SupercoolBill
01-24-2024, 12:36 PM
Took a break from work and working on the car to go on vacation. Went to Roatan Honduras and had a great time. I love seeing some of the vehicles they have in other countries that we don't have in the US when on vacation. My wife and I were huge fans of the somewhat controversial Suzuki Samurai. We owned 12 of them over the years. So of course we rented a Suzuki Jimny (Samurai).
There were also 1000s of small CC motorcycles buzzing around everywhere.
I didn't get to many chances to talk about Deloreans. I get the impression that nobody here really cares. It would be pretty useless to own one here on the island. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240124/82c27b4b81a0c76801ee85123f08cf56.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240124/38755b7926f09758c339a9d5ea0f08ba.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240124/140483b4e10de9ab446b0cc00b0681b3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240124/7cfdda6a37664a36b61395650006e01f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240124/ec18f0d61089cca20acc05f939ec4f3a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240124/c8a1db5bc87e7eb541de8ac67f730c9b.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-24-2024, 12:43 PM
This the place we stayed at. It was awesome!! We had it all to ourselves for a week.

Okay back to work and back to the Delorean project.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240124/c47efab1823f9ac58ea74923792f9f75.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240124/e8168a98ba8468cd11c3e06a09bc53a6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240124/47d28b89b4ef78cf5c912f9bfe8dda1d.jpg

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SupercoolBill
01-25-2024, 02:33 PM
More parts from D-go showed up while we were away. Unfortunately I'm leaning more towards the one piece flex pipe option for the hydraulic clutch. This would mean the SS pipe, flex line I currently have, SS mounting bracket, flare fitting, SS nut, and SS anti-rattle washer wouldn't be needed. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240125/4be8fcf7039f740ad97201e6cebc1770.jpg

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Helirich
01-26-2024, 09:25 PM
Neat vacation.

SupercoolBill
01-26-2024, 09:38 PM
Neat vacation.Yeah it was a blast. I could easily be convinced to spend my winters there.

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SupercoolBill
02-03-2024, 06:16 AM
We worked on the transmission Wednesday night. It end up being super stressful. Not for my wife but for me for some reason. I think it was because so many days had past since we had first taken the transmission apart. And a LOT had happened since then. Doubt snuck into my brain and I was having thoughts of putting the entire transmission together, installing the transmission in the car, putting the body on the car, hooking everything up and having the transmission not work correctly or not work at all. That would really suck.

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SupercoolBill
02-03-2024, 06:32 AM
We stacked all of the parts in the case half that has the shifter rods in it. That way we can make sure that the shift forks are engaged into the shift rings. I looked at on-line pics to make sure that we had the differential carrier installed in the correct orientation. This is VERY IMPORTANT because it CAN BE ACCIDENTALLY INSTALLED BACKWARD. Yes that right. If you put it in the wrong way you'll end up having 5 reverse gears and 1 forward gear. That would totally suck!
Oh and supposedly the picture in the Delorean manuals show it in the wrong orientation for a Delorean. I didn't verify this yet but if I do and it is true I plan on making notes in the manuals.

We cleaned the bearing races and the places that the bearings live. Then we installed Loctite retainer compound. I had my doubts whether this was really necessary but as we were cleaning the areas where the bearings sit it did actually look like a couple of them has spun at some point. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/790c3316ab182a10c387ac041701594d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/9815bcf3f1075dfe6e305847f4b5af15.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/1ad97ca30d5de16a712d019c11bdd673.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-03-2024, 06:38 AM
We put some Hylomar on the input shaft seal groove. Not sure if this is really needed or going to help but it worries me that the seal housing just sets in a groove but isn't supposed to leak. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/2e3df5cd6d181f502275180ee18e6200.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/f5965576e6e040dcd1f9b00f67f4b644.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-03-2024, 06:42 AM
We laid the gear shafts in place. The shafts would rotate freely at first which really worried me that something was wrong. We took them in and out a couple times. Still things were jammed up. NOT GOOD! Now I was starting get upset. We played around with the shift forks and things started spinning. Still seem rough to me. Not feeling great about this.

We prepped the mating surfaces then laid down a bead of anaerobic sealant. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/dd7116f9740e2d2be66a2b124f70b47e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/0e665d4e1177a892308c59ba39564009.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-03-2024, 08:32 AM
After the sealant was laid down I realized that we had to get the reverse gear in the correct position for the shift arm to land in the slot on the gear. We tried fitting the other case half several times and it seemed like things weren't lining up correctly. The whole time I am thinking that we can drag this out forever...we've got sealant and bearing retainer that is drying. I panicked and started using a plastic dead blow hammer to persuade the case half to go on. We decided to pull the case half off AGAIN. I noticed that the input shaft seal was not sitting exactly right in the case and therefore not lining up with the groove on the other case half. This time we measured how far inward the reverse gear arm was then measured the other case half and set the reverse gear in a position that had the groove the same distance inward. The problem is when you flip the case half if you allow the case half to tip, the reverse gear easily slides on the shaft. We put the case half on as far as we could push it on by hand.

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SupercoolBill
02-03-2024, 09:42 AM
We tried to look in and see if the seal was sitting in the groove like it is supposed to and is the reverse gear and arm aligned? Well...this is nearly impossible to do. We just had to continue on. We put six bolts in the case and used them to pull the halves together. Did I mention this was stressful for me?[emoji30]
We had it pulled together almost all the way (1/2" gap). I tried spinning the shafts and it didn't feel right. It was not smooth at all and felt like it was trying to bind up. I started cursing and throwing tools. Not something I'm proud of but it happened. So now we had to decide do we keep going or take everything apart and start over. We thought about, looked at the picture of the parts laying in the case half before putting the other side on. We decided to keep going. #sendit! The case halves pulled together. I tried spinning the input shaft. It would not turn beyond just a tiny movement. Great! Now this thing is together and it needs to all come apart now!! #%$&!!![emoji36]
We took a break and after decided to try to change gears (even though we were in neutral). I moved one of the shift rods. I still couldn't move the input shaft. [emoji53] I put it back in neutral. Now I could spin the input shaft and the pinion shaft. Okay that's a win. I tried shifting into a gear but this time I rotated the input shaft WHILE moving the shaft. "Clunk" it fell into gear and everything spun. It felt much more smooth. I also had to remind myself that the bearings and gears were dry other than a light coating of WD40 so that is affecting how it feels. I ran through several of the gears and tried to figure out what gear I was in for each rod position change.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/e079970e3a33fbe7f381b7a84e7e2c37.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-03-2024, 09:47 AM
Since we finally felt confident that things went together properly we put the rest of the bolts in, torqued them to spec, and marked them.
We sealed the bolts that go though the case. The manual says you only need to seal one of them but we didn't want to take any chances. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/0f8ea5019e5facad727cc6c9efc14cd4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/010019d94e6e802a78f92d55677fe802.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/6a402016a669cd13d86728afc288813f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/282d2bd4358fadf0eaf4e0a2691d333b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/77720480dc1128ddc2de24a5f5cea82b.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-03-2024, 09:50 AM
This picture shows the bolt #1 that they want sealed in and you can see why. But also of you look at where the other bolt passes through yes it is a nice flat mating surface but I don't trust it to not weep oil with no sealant on the bolt or the mating surfaces.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/ec8e16d903995d946adf1bb6b9d0ec39.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-03-2024, 09:54 AM
We continued assembling the transmission and testing the gears trying to figure what gear we were in.
Can I just say that there should be a separate word for gears as it refers to shifting gears vs. gears the circular cogs located inside the transmission. It is confusing.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/7794fa9db79fc9c62a29fcfecb010113.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/0ee946dff4e995984a433242e48f7ba1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240203/2a5760341c994ddfc57aad8bae963897.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-03-2024, 10:39 AM
I would like to point out that I don't hate manual transmissions.
My wife and I have always been huge advocates for manual transmissions. We bought manual transmission vehicles for daily drivers starting with my first vehicle, a 1986 Nissan truck and her first a 1984 Chevy S10 truck up until it became nearly impossible to buy a new manual transmission vehicle around 10 years ago.

They have been around since 1891 and aside from constant mesh with synchronization rings added in the 1920s and remained the same basic design. They are cheap to make, rarely fail, don't require external components such as cooler, control units, etc. They are cheap and easy to repair/rebuild.
Outside of the US manual transmissions are still very popular and in some countries they are adored and automatic transmissions hated. Although this is slowly starting to change as other countries follow the US.

Long live the manual transmission!

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WHO1DMC
02-03-2024, 11:08 AM
I would like to point out that I don't hate manual transmissions.
My wife and I have always been huge advocates for manual transmissions. We bought manual transmission vehicles for daily drivers starting with my first vehicle, a 1986 Nissan truck and her first a 1984 Chevy S10 truck up until it became nearly impossible to buy a new manual transmission vehicle around 10 years ago.

They have been around since 1891 and aside from constant mesh with synchronization rings added in the 1920s and remained the same basic design. They are cheap to make, rarely fail, don't require external components such as cooler, control units, etc. They are cheap and easy to repair/rebuild.
Outside of the US manual transmissions are still very popular and in some countries they are adored and automatic transmissions hated. Although this is slowly starting to change as other countries follow the US.

Long live the manual transmission!

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I've owned nothing but manual transmission vehicles for 25 years. It definitely sucks trying to find a new vehicle with a manual you like these days!




Dave B.

SupercoolBill
02-03-2024, 11:54 AM
I've owned nothing but manual transmission vehicles for 25 years. It definitely sucks trying to find a new vehicle with a manual you like these days!




Dave B.Yeah if you can find one it is usually a base model.

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Timeless
02-03-2024, 02:01 PM
I've owned nothing but manual transmission vehicles for 25 years. It definitely sucks trying to find a new vehicle with a manual you like these days!
Dave B.
Indeed. Thankfully a couple E39 M5s still grace my garage.

SupercoolBill
02-04-2024, 08:47 PM
We ran a 10 mile race this morning then after worked on the transmission for a few hours.
We started by installing the 5th gear gears. Torqued the nuts to 105 ft-lbs and staked them down. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/8886b8521aae76706ea00df4688fe64a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/f20031ac09edd7b39b22a45e60de5ccb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/acd5c18e40877fa7ffcfe6e5e1758332.jpg
As you can see we forgot to install the 5th gear shift fork. More on that later. At this point we hadn't yet realized that we messed up.

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SupercoolBill
02-04-2024, 08:51 PM
I pushed the shifter arm seal into the transmission tailpiece and it fit way too loose. So I put some Hylomar on it to try to seal it in. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/5102fac0d0363049c9b0de507f26013e.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-04-2024, 08:54 PM
I tried to use zip ties to compress the spring.
If your ever worked on this part of a Delorean transmission then you know how miserable this job is.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/6f05f02169538f243b94c98db035d557.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/4e9d4c9e5a83efc157ef3632552415c9.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-04-2024, 08:58 PM
We managed to get the spring keepers in on one side and had to cut and remove the zip ties...they didn't really work as we had hoped.
This job sucks so bad. Ended up having to put a zip tie are the second set of keepers to get them to stay put while we released the spring. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/a7658cdfd140a3c065b6bedb3337902a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/fa4b53a6828c771f0642ea4919fe5642.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/9544495a24fde0b5565a572841892ea4.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-04-2024, 09:02 PM
So after an hour of skun fingers, cursing, yelling, etc. We finally got all of the spring keepers installed. Then...we realized we were supposed to install the shifter lever onto the shaft FIRST BEFORE INSTALLING THE SPRING KEEPERS!!!! #$&@!!![emoji36]

So we had to do the whole job all over again. [emoji849] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/21835a433afba785ea80c9bd2007cca6.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-04-2024, 09:03 PM
Installing pins in shifter armhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/b08ddf6786aa7ae6a34517e860108bc9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/d6b5dede6642054079d26aed7d2ae728.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-04-2024, 09:08 PM
This the part where I realized that we forgot to put the shifter fork on the 5th gear. I refused to strap the transmission back down, break torqued nuts loose again, etc.
Instead we drove out the roll pin so we could take the assembly apart to install. After the pin was back in we installed a second pin inside the regular pin.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/d2e1e8b4dc8deda1451ef86b79c0875f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/3e3d95b2e2c43237f8cf934160d3638f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/5a194dd954e0519fa9e59fb6829c1679.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-04-2024, 09:13 PM
Installed the tailpiece with a new gasket and hylomar on both case surfaces and all new bolts and washers. Installed 5th gear detent spring with hylomar on the cap threads.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/d0b8f9598246ee16c4bae65677659af6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/dd26557b98d5a5e29d8061a644fba7ca.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/51fb03127743adf16b7d6e88c07fec87.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/3bcab4136b113a685753ac2bfd75b396.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-04-2024, 09:16 PM
I bought a replacement cable support bracket because it was cheap and ours was quite corroded. It doesn't seem to be shaped right though so we may just use the original one.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/12cbecccf701f772e04e7fd014bc9267.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240205/fd09c669f72ec61c486093cbc9187d1c.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-07-2024, 09:04 PM
Worked on the transmission for a few hours after work. Installed the differential carrier bearing locking ring with some Hylomar on the threads. We tightened until the punch marks I had put on the ring and the housing lined up. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/05412c764905b4a2cb404a7a1b24d705.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/834ca5596b964af7fa80b2aeba1e2db6.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-07-2024, 09:08 PM
My wife installed both seals. These are NOS seals from Grady. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/af6bb2782ad6fc66834f30e8da6d5a0f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/828ca65c3afd4b9505a32c204bbb17db.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-07-2024, 09:09 PM
Wifey installed both drive flanges.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/f9aec340ea8670c086e0288a7758d800.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/ff13fdaa7892c06a54754daa04393e76.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-07-2024, 09:12 PM
I installed the shift components. I put red grease inside the tube with the arm on it before installing it. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/25f26b77c448adb22a95748afe417318.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-07-2024, 09:15 PM
I decided to smear some of this on the clutch housing gasket. This turned out to be more of a messy pain than I thought it would be. This stuff gets tacky almost immediately. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/c5d6e954287c7129ca44addedc121cfb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/41968733cdfde36807722a05c9648e60.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-07-2024, 09:18 PM
I don't really understand how the input shaft tube seals in the transmission. Obviously it is press fit but I don't see how it works. I didn't want to take any chances so I put some Hylomar around the end of the tube just in case.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/ec80dce0f85fd52354e50816e11e4801.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-07-2024, 09:19 PM
We installed the transmission mounts before taking some pictures and calling it a night.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/10f111f399a83688e00c956f2f6d77d5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/554c2938972adae822d28d85a86422e5.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-07-2024, 09:23 PM
A before picture https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240208/beb0a177610a1de066c6a3d47ef41325.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-08-2024, 08:44 PM
A few more hours in the shop tonight.
Found some aluminum rivets in my shop. Attached the clutch fork rubber boot. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240209/a168968af36419a79f5c8bf26ce00ca4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240209/83aa40a512c000922ab5499f480815d6.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-08-2024, 08:46 PM
I didn't want to over tighten the rivets while trying to get the inserts to snap off so I stopped and cut them off with a dremel tool.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240209/9b00d49f938121263ec425e26b4beac6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240209/7296a479e8cc7fff7192725789c4c165.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-08-2024, 08:53 PM
We were told that the rubber cup could be pushed over the ball stud if lubed and warmed up. We had a heck of a time trying to get it to go. We finally did get it to go but it split some. Oh well. It will have to work. We mixed up a 50/50 recipe of never-sieze and red high tack grease. We slathered up the ball and the tips of the clutch fork. We installed the clutch fork.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240209/6e829cf5e3f7f6f9c7b3251d873c7d73.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240209/12ff6f170bc62db0159eeca7f0b9bbb3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240209/29092675cdd63f04b38053e5f613b9d4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240209/a18b5eb1af07a39d3b1c3103a9b9fad7.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-08-2024, 08:54 PM
Next my wife installed the Grady rebuilt slave cylinder with new SS hardware. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240209/33b0fc5dfb6b68bba6f7f2be57b1f0af.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-08-2024, 08:58 PM
We put the clutch line bracket in the stock location but then the hard line seemed to be too long. It seemed like the bracket should be further back one bolt hole. So we moved it which made the hard line line up better but....then the bracket didn't really fit correctly. Hmmm..
We shimmed the bracket, installed a longer bolt, and left it installed like this for now.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240209/86168faa9860d86c9b16195f060e3640.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-08-2024, 09:07 PM
Next up, installing the new pilot bearing, flywheel onto the engine, clutch onto the transmission, etc.

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SupercoolBill
02-14-2024, 09:40 PM
For Valentines Day we worked on the car.
Started by installing the crank seal. Next we installed the crank pulley. It didn't want to go on easily so we heated it up some with a heat gun. We then tried to perfectly line up the keyway with the woodruff key way down in there while tapping the pulley on with a large socket placed in the center of the pulley. This was nerve-wracking. It is really hard to see in there to line it up and the pulley fit really snug so if not properly lined up it would be hard to tell until it was too late and everything was jammed up.
Luckily it lined up and went on correctly.
We put blue loctite on the threads.
Next we chained the engine up to the overhead crane and unhooked it from the engine stand. We shouldn't be needing that anymore.

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SupercoolBill
02-14-2024, 09:51 PM
With the engine stand out of the way I was able to remove the clutch pilot bearing. I just bought a nice new pilot bearing pulley for this job. To my disappointment it slid out easy...too easy. I cleaned up the bore and test fit the new bearing. Sure enough. Same thing. I could slide in just using my fingers. I am thinking that maybe a previous pilot bearing siezed and spun at some point. So I put retaining loctite in the bore before sliding the pilot bearing in place....by hand.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/062761cdc293e3c34456355f1b5552d4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/dc058c323a1166cb38883bc61df3520d.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-14-2024, 09:59 PM
We installed the refurbished flywheel. I wanted the timing mark on the flywheel in the correct place. Like others said the flywheel bolts holes are not drilled evenly. So there is no way to not have the flywheel set right. Pretty smart how they did that. I put blue loctite on the bolts and used a 3/8" cordless impact to wind the bolts in. I wish I hadn't used the impact because when I went to finish torqueing the bolts most of them were already beyond torque a bit. So I ended up backing them all off and retightening by hand with the torque wrench. Now I see how people end up snapping these off. You could easily over tighten using and impact.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/a58052e8d5985625c5a263b7c59133cd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/cb2b546d63b3cb38b75215a05a8a6930.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/0e0cdd57bc7e37662293696b3ef213a0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/cbe0cca46ccf559811d463a0afe05cd5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/3efb5379b785f426a133a28136b632d2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/a8eab5ae785f0126018c01c207fd3bab.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-14-2024, 10:02 PM
Next I installed the flywheel holder tools recommended by Andy. These seem very overpriced to me but they do work great. We finished torquing down the crank pulley nut to 135 ft-lbs. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/cf403d2fb1598fe970befe8481320d00.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-14-2024, 10:05 PM
Progress came to a screaming halt after this. I couldn't find the bolts for the clutch pressure plate. I thought I had bought new ones but we couldn't find them. In fact we couldn't even find the old ones! Super annoying. So we ended up just leaving the engine hanging for now.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/6aac2957d0750fe87110331b9314bd1b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/93d380b1748e2c8dc7021a1ae0f12c05.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/a899ae3ca271bb2bae46ccb9ff610c79.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-15-2024, 01:16 PM
I took a walk down to the hardware store today.
Was able to buy six M8 12.9 grade socket bolts. Score!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/fda002792e0d83b5049151d9061cd17a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/bf3775f7a2bcd76e537bd575d86af02b.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-15-2024, 09:07 PM
After work we got some more done on the car.
We set the engine on plywood on some saw horses. Or as my wife says I say..."Saw husses". Installed the clutch disk, used clutch centering tool, bolted up the pressure plate with the new socket bolts with wave washers. We put medium loctite on the threads.
I removed the flywheel lock tools. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240216/419e0450ed74a1f44c3c5dd9db5a8d13.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240216/2067b57be7d1cb50ad79250a52284de5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240216/ccf16064272ab1e3256869cd26b2c6d0.jpg

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SupercoolBill
02-15-2024, 09:10 PM
Now that we finally have the correct bolt and spacer from D-Ind we put this hose junction piece on.
I still don't like how this sits.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240216/c4a4718c09bc49d9dd8cb06594f1d339.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240216/47addf5483b3041d08f46b64e782176e.jpg

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