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DrWin
01-22-2022, 02:36 AM
So - I changed the sparkplugs today and got these out:
67889
Can we tell anything about the state of the engine from looking at the old sparkplugs?
I put in the NKG ones, as they were the ones I had handy. Is there anything better available?
As allways, thanks for any input! :)
dmcman73
01-22-2022, 06:31 AM
So - I changed the sparkplugs today and got these out:
67889
Can we tell anything about the state of the engine from looking at the old sparkplugs?
I put in the NKG ones, as they were the ones I had handy. Is there anything better available?
As allways, thanks for any input! :)
Need to look at the ignitor end not the threads. A normal color would be a tannish color. Black color that coats everything and looks dry or ashy means it's running too rich; check your CO and check that your O2 sensor wasn't fouled up as well (it would have the same coating). Black color that has a shine to it means you have oil fouling from worn rings or leaking valves; check the compression of the cylinder(s).
David T
01-22-2022, 12:33 PM
"Reading" spark plugs is close to reading tea leaves. While it can give you some information, you need other, confirming information too. Black plugs can be because of a bad crankcase ventilation system, an overfilled crankcase, or even a car that is only used on very short hops and never warms up for example. Or maybe the wrong heat range. Used in conjunction with a compression test and a leak-down test and an accurate measure of the oil pressure, you can get a good idea of the general health of the motor.
DMC-81
01-23-2022, 04:50 PM
You can tell a lot about the condition of the engine by looking at the spark plugs. Just Google "spark plug condition chart" and pick your favorite chart.
The spark plugs in your picture look to be the OEM spec, i.e. Bosch Silver HR6DS. They are discontinued so IMO, I would hang onto them if originality is important to you.
DrWin
01-24-2022, 02:32 PM
Need to look at the ignitor end not the threads. A normal color would be a tannish color. Black color that coats everything and looks dry or ashy means it's running too rich; check your CO and check that your O2 sensor wasn't fouled up as well (it would have the same coating). Black color that has a shine to it means you have oil fouling from worn rings or leaking valves; check the compression of the cylinder(s).
Black and dry, so rich, I'm assuming. That lines up with everything else I've seen from the car so far.
"Reading" spark plugs is close to reading tea leaves. While it can give you some information, you need other, confirming information too. Black plugs can be because of a bad crankcase ventilation system, an overfilled crankcase, or even a car that is only used on very short hops and never warms up for example. Or maybe the wrong heat range. Used in conjunction with a compression test and a leak-down test and an accurate measure of the oil pressure, you can get a good idea of the general health of the motor.
Roger - We're waaaaaay out of my competence zone here - I have zero idea what that means. But thanks, this might be the kind of post I can get back to and actually use later, when I've done som more wrenching and research.
You can tell a lot about the condition of the engine by looking at the spark plugs. Just Google "spark plug condition chart" and pick your favorite chart.
The spark plugs in your picture look to be the OEM spec, i.e. Bosch Silver HR6DS. They are discontinued so IMO, I would hang onto them if originality is important to you.
Thanks - they are. Originality isn't important to me - I'm more in the improve-it-if-it-can-be-done-w/o-affecting-the-visual-appearence camp. I'll pick them out of the trash and save them for someone else who might enjoy them.
outatym2001
01-25-2022, 06:02 AM
I’m not sure how you guys overlooked the pictures I posted to the thread below.
There are pictures of eighteen different spark plugs and a description of each and every one.
I posted the pictures 2,473 days ago. Yes, I counted the days since April 19, 2015.
DrWin what can I tell from your picture? It would help if the picture was taken outdoors in the sunlight to better see the central electrode.
http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?11744-Replacing-spark-plugs
DrWin
01-25-2022, 03:36 PM
I’m not sure how you guys overlooked the pictures I posted to the thread below.
There are pictures of eighteen different spark plugs and a description of each and every one.
I posted the pictures 2,473 days ago. Yes, I counted the days since April 19, 2015.
DrWin what can I tell from your picture? It would help if the picture was taken outdoors in the sunlight to better see the central electrode.
http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?11744-Replacing-spark-plugs
Thank you! :) I have picture 4 - carbon deposits.
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