Newly manufactured tail lights

[CFI]

DPI will sell brand new tail light assemblies by the end of this year:

https://deloreanindustries.com/d-tech-blog/delorean-industries-tail-light-lens-manufacturing-update-/

I’m assuming that unlike the 3D printed variety these will be DOT compliant.

[Timeless]

Technically they would need to be DOT compliant to be utilized on a vehicle registered to operate on American roadways. This is good news!

[MrChocky]

Technically they would need to be DOT compliant to be utilized on a vehicle registered to operate on American roadways. This is good news!

Right, but one of the local hobbies here is to have taillights which are out; and probably don't get fixed until your yearly inspection. I doubt anyone's paying attention. especially not on a
DeLorean.

[Timeless]

Agreed. Nobody's looking at a 40+ year old car taillights for DOT related issues.

[MrChocky]

Agreed. Nobody's looking at a 40+ year old car taillights for DOT related issues.

However in a reverse case that I just remembered, I got pulled over in California for having a tail light out - I was literally
pulling into the auto parts store to get a new bulb. But even then, it's not like the cop was gonna be looking at the
tiny writing on the lens.

[Helirich]

Are all those silver “euro” taillight lenses I see on pickup trucks dot approved?

[Timeless]

Are all those silver “euro” taillight lenses I see on pickup trucks dot approved?
Some are. Look for the DOT markings.

[Bitsyncmaster]

Probably not cheap to get DOT approval. Do you think your LED headlights are DOT approved. Maybe the housing is but how can they test it without the light source installed?

[Timeless]

High quality LED units like JW Speaker are DOT compliant. Chinese, eBay, etc... may not be.

[DMC-Ron]

There's a lot of misinformation on this. In reality, DOT does not "approve" taillight aftermarket LED bulbs or taillights. Rather the manufacturer applies a DOT label indicating they have adhered to DOT standards in the manufacture of the product. It's really a self certification process. No inspection or testing is done by DOT.

https://www.boogeylights.com/theres-no-such-thing-as-dot-approved/
There is significant confusion and misunderstanding regarding lighting regulations for the transportation industry in the United States. Truth is, the terms "DOT approved" or "SAE approved" don't mean anything unless you're talking about headlights. That's because headlights are the only lights required by law to have a "DOT" marking. Even then, the 'DOT' marking only means the manufacturer of the headlight certifies the product was made in compliance with DOT standards; not that the US Department of Transportation has approved it.

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[dmcman73]

Brake and driving lights Red in color and illuminate -- Passed
Turn signals Yellow in color and illuminate-- Passed
Reverse lights white (clear) and illuminate -- Passed
No lenses cracked -- Passed

Those are the only things that an inspection station and/or a police office is going to look for, they are not looking for DOT imprints on the lenses.

[Delorean Industries]

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[Patrick C]

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Glad someone is taking on this project in quantity! These will be more needed as our cars continue to age and lenses fade and crack.

Thanks, Josh!

[Helirich]

Brake and driving lights Red in color and illuminate -- Passed
Turn signals Yellow in color and illuminate-- Passed
Reverse lights white (clear) and illuminate -- Passed
No lenses cracked -- Passed

Those are the only things that an inspection station and/or a police office is going to look for, they are not looking for DOT imprints on the lenses.

Turn signals are not required to be yellow.

[Bitsyncmaster]

Amber/yellow is acceptable practically anywhere in the world. Red has been banned since the 1980s or earlier in regions outside of North America. In the USA, it is still acceptable to have red turn signals on the rear.

[Helirich]

Amber/yellow is acceptable practically anywhere in the world. Red has been banned since the 1980s or earlier in regions outside of North America. In the USA, it is still acceptable to have red turn signals on the rear.

Learned something new. Probably good idea. Wonder why the US didn’t do it.

[steve]

:mallet: Beat that Dead Horse make the lenses.

[CFI]

Brake and driving lights Red in color and illuminate -- Passed
Turn signals Yellow in color and illuminate-- Passed
Reverse lights white (clear) and illuminate -- Passed
No lenses cracked -- Passed

Those are the only things that an inspection station and/or a police office is going to look for, they are not looking for DOT imprints on the lenses.

Unfortunately that is not the case in some states. Apparently, too many “off road use only” items are being used as replacement parts and some garages are looking for DOT markings. I recently failed an inspection for having Toby’s third brake light on my car.

[Helirich]

Unfortunately that is not the case in some states. Apparently, too many “off road use only” items are being used as replacement parts and some garages are looking for DOT markings. I recently failed an inspection for having Toby’s third brake light on my car.

That’s interesting. Since the car didn’t come with the third light, you wouldn’t think they could turn you down for that. I hate state inspections. I’m so glad my state dropped them. I read that statistics prove that it’s no safer in states with inspections vs no inspections. It’s just another way to take money.

[CFI]

That’s interesting. Since the car didn’t come with the third light, you wouldn’t think they could turn you down for that. I hate state inspections. I’m so glad my state dropped them. I read that statistics prove that it’s no safer in states with inspections vs no inspections. It’s just another way to take money.

I’ve lived in states that did not require inspections. I saw a lot of turds that shouldn’t be on the road. As annoying as the inspection is, for many people it’s the only motivation they have to keep their car in any kind of safe, properly working order.

[Bitsyncmaster]

Unfortunately that is not the case in some states. Apparently, too many “off road use only” items are being used as replacement parts and some garages are looking for DOT markings. I recently failed an inspection for having Toby’s third brake light on my car.

My Corvette third brake light on my D has DOT cast into the lens. My LED headlights don't have any marking.

[Helirich]

I’ve lived in states that did not require inspections. I saw a lot of turds that shouldn’t be on the road. As annoying as the inspection is, for many people it’s the only motivation they have to keep their car in any kind of safe, properly working order.

It might keep some ugly cars off the road, but it’s not safer.

https://www.theamericanconsumer.org/2019/06/do-mandatory-vehicle-inspections-really-make-us-safer/

Edit, I believe a cop can give a “fix it” ticket when something is obviously unsafe.

[CFI]

Edit, I believe a cop can give a “fix it” ticket when something is obviously unsafe.

Sure, but you’ve got to be caught first. You never know when a cop will catch you with your busted windshield, but you do know that the yearly inspection will.

[FABombjoy]

Sure, but you’ve got to be caught first. You never know when a cop will catch you with your busted windshield, but you do know that the yearly inspection will.
Right? Fix-it tickets are almost all for tint, exhaust, or maybe bolting on a 2x4 as a bumper if the officer doesn't like your attitude.

The link above gives it conclusion by drawing from sources whose conclusions are, "not enough data to conclude". Poor research from a clearly biased website.
I'll volunteer my state (https://www.google.com/search?q=michigan+site%3Areddit.com%2Fr%2Fjustroll edintotheshop) for amusing anecdotes of vehicles that should have been crushed on the spot. AKA the "this is why we can't have nice things" people.

[Helirich]

Sure, but youÂ’ve got to be caught first. You never know when a cop will catch you with your busted windshield, but you do know that the yearly inspection will.

That is exactly what I mean. I’ve had a crack in my truck windshield for ten years. It goes right down the center just like old cars had a split down the center. Obviously a split windshield would obstruct vision more than a single crack. It causes no safety issues. But an inspection would cause unnecessary expense.


Right? Fix-it tickets are almost all for tint, exhaust, or maybe bolting on a 2x4 as a bumper if the officer doesn't like your attitude.

The link above gives it conclusion by drawing from sources whose conclusions are, "not enough data to conclude". Poor research from a clearly biased website.
I'll volunteer my state (https://www.google.com/search?q=michigan+site%3Areddit.com%2Fr%2Fjustroll edintotheshop) for amusing anecdotes of vehicles that should have been crushed on the spot. AKA the "this is why we can't have nice things" people.

Several states have gotten rid of inspection based on the data, so whether the website is biased is a mute point. (I didn’t see any clear bias) It says not enough data to conclude it helps safety. Are You suggesting we should keep laws that are unproven theory? Funny to hear a car guy want unnecessary laws. You know there are people that believe cars without airbags, antilock brakes and side impact protection should not be allowed on the road. There are people that feel cars older than ten years should be outlawed. Of course, there are lots of people that believe any modification from stock should be illegal. Sorry about your Delorean.

[FABombjoy]

Funny to hear a car guy want unnecessary laws.
Before you continue dressing up the straw man, I do think cars with swiss-cheese frames, partial brake rotors, steel cords showing through the tires, and rusted through control arms should be taken off the road & fixed. I think you would agree that these are safety concerns. Not sure why you went out of your way be so disrespectful in your reply.

[CFI]

That is exactly what I mean. I’ve had a crack in my truck windshield for ten years. It goes right down the center just like old cars had a split down the center. Obviously a split windshield would obstruct vision more than a single crack. It causes no safety issues. But an inspection would cause unnecessary expense.


Not true. The windshield is part of the vehicle structure and a crack means it is not in proper functioning condition. Don’t be cheap. Buy a windshield.

[CFI]

Before you continue dressing up the straw man, I do think cars with swiss-cheese frames, partial brake rotors, steel cords showing through the tires, and rusted through control arms should be taken off the road & fixed.

Exactly. These are the cars I’m talking about. The owners of which don’t give a single thought to spending money on it, risking their lives and the lives of those unfortunate enough to be driving near them. Without a yearly inspection these cars will be driven until they cause an accident. I’ve seen catastrophic failures of vital car components during my decades in the auto biz. Some people walked away from them, some didn’t.

Driving is not a right, it’s a privilege.

[dmcman73]

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This thread took a turn, now to get back on topic.....when will the new tail lights be available? Is there a rough estimate what the pair will cost?

[Helirich]

Before you continue dressing up the straw man, I do think cars with swiss-cheese frames, partial brake rotors, steel cords showing through the tires, and rusted through control arms should be taken off the road & fixed. I think you would agree that these are safety concerns. Not sure why you went out of your way be so disrespectful in your reply.

The point is the law is suppose to solve a problem. The statistics prove there is no problem and the law does not have the desired effect, regardless of your personal observations. No disrespect intended. I like your work and I would not like it to be shut down by government regulation under the guise of safety.

I will happily buy DI taillights without a DOT on them.

[Timeless]

This thread took a turn, now to get back on topic.....when will the new tail lights be available? Is there a rough estimate what the pair will cost?
"Availability will be on a complete set basis as the matching of individual lens to existing counterparts is not a realistic option. Production samples are slated for initial fitment and testing June of 2022 with subsequent batch manufacturing taking place 4th quarter 2022."