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glockworks21
12-24-2022, 06:21 PM
tried a few different "back to black" polishes. nothing works. in the right light it stands out like a sore thumb
I dont want to run a front plate. The holes dont even have anything behind them to tighten one in. I went and got the plugs from auto part store when i got car to fill the holes.
Any Ideas?

I did try a heat gun but was scared to keep it on too long. It didnt seem to do anything.

Merry Christmas


Dave

David T
12-24-2022, 09:02 PM
tried a few different "back to black" polishes. nothing works. in the right light it stands out like a sore thumb
I dont want to run a front plate. The holes dont even have anything behind them to tighten one in. I went and got the plugs from auto part store when i got car to fill the holes.
Any Ideas?

I did try a heat gun but was scared to keep it on too long. It didnt seem to do anything.

Merry Christmas


Dave

Nothing is going to work, the bumper has discolored because there was a plate so the spot behind it did not discolor like the rest of the bumper. Mask the black part and try to repaint it. You need to use paint with an additive that makes it flexible. The good news is you can repair those holes and after you paint you won't notice them anymore. if you ever do need a front plate there are other ways to mount it without making holes in the facia.

glockworks21
12-24-2022, 09:38 PM
Nothing is going to work, the bumper has discolored because there was a plate so the spot behind it did not discolor like the rest of the bumper. Mask the black part and try to repaint it. You need to use paint with an additive that makes it flexible. The good news is you can repair those holes and after you paint you won't notice them anymore. if you ever do need a front plate there are other ways to mount it without making holes in the facia.

Dave have you heard of anyone trying this?

found this on deloreans site. I may try next week.....

The black section of the OEM fascia is not painted at all. The black color is the bare urethane. This area can often be brought back to like-new with some effort using very fine (up to 2000 grit) sandpaper and polishing compound. If the urethane is "too far gone" or has to be repaired, we've found that a universal bumper/trim black such as "SEM Trim Black 39143" is an effective solution, although not quite as durable as the bare urethane. On the replacement fiberglass fascia, painting the black areas is mandatory.

David T
12-25-2022, 11:28 AM
Dave have you heard of anyone trying this?

found this on deloreans site. I may try next week.....

The black section of the OEM fascia is not painted at all. The black color is the bare urethane. This area can often be brought back to like-new with some effort using very fine (up to 2000 grit) sandpaper and polishing compound. If the urethane is "too far gone" or has to be repaired, we've found that a universal bumper/trim black such as "SEM Trim Black 39143" is an effective solution, although not quite as durable as the bare urethane. On the replacement fiberglass fascia, painting the black areas is mandatory.

At this point you have nothing to lose by trying it, if it doesn't work it still would have to be repainted. You would sand the bumper where the plate WASN'T covering the bumper to get it to match. Use masking tape to protect the areas where you do not want to sand.

Timeless
12-26-2022, 07:44 AM
The black section of the OEM fascia is not painted at all. The black color is the bare urethane. This area can often be brought back to like-new with some effort using very fine (up to 2000 grit) sandpaper and polishing compound. If the urethane is "too far gone" or has to be repaired, we've found that a universal bumper/trim black such as "SEM Trim Black 39143" is an effective solution, although not quite as durable as the bare urethane. On the replacement fiberglass fascia, painting the black areas is mandatory.
This. DT is a rambling %#$!E^U&%T.

Rich
12-26-2022, 11:25 AM
Yes, try the polishing compound.

This isn't the only car of that era made with the same material and look. A shop that handles '80s classics should know exactly how to treat it.

Find a good body shop - show them what you've got. <10 minutes with liquid polish and an orbital buffer made the black/unpainted urethane look like new on ours. A local shop did it as a courtesy job for $20 (both front and rear) while I watched. Took out all the fine scratches, too. No sanding in our case.

A good detailer may also be an option.



....found this on deloreans site. I may try next week.....

The black section of the OEM fascia is not painted at all. The black color is the bare urethane. This area can often be brought back to like-new with some effort using very fine (up to 2000 grit) sandpaper and polishing compound. If the urethane is "too far gone" or has to be repaired, we've found that a universal bumper/trim black such as "SEM Trim Black 39143" is an effective solution, although not quite as durable as the bare urethane. On the replacement fiberglass fascia, painting the black areas is mandatory.

glockworks21
12-26-2022, 08:12 PM
Yes, try the polishing compound.

This isn't the only car of that era made with the same material and look. A shop that handles '80s classics should know exactly how to treat it.

Find a good body shop - show them what you've got. <10 minutes with liquid polish and an orbital buffer made the black/unpainted urethane look like new on ours. A local shop did it as a courtesy job for $20 (both front and rear) while I watched. Took out all the fine scratches, too. No sanding in our case.

A good detailer may also be an option.



Thanks i took a risk and wet sanded it.
Started with 2000 grit. dropped to 1500.. then hit it with the orbital. Did this a couple times and its much cleaner. I will post pics (good or bad) tomorrow when i get the whole thing done..

Michael
12-26-2022, 09:15 PM
If the tech manual is wrong, then DT is wrong, but...

The tech manual is NEVER wrong!

glockworks21
12-26-2022, 09:56 PM
love the commentary

80 percent better.. Ill keep going.....

Helirich
12-27-2022, 11:40 AM
Looks fantastic. I have done some polishing on mine, but obviously I have more to do.

glockworks21
12-28-2022, 02:39 PM
Yes, try the polishing compound.

This isn't the only car of that era made with the same material and look. A shop that handles '80s classics should know exactly how to treat it.

Find a good body shop - show them what you've got. <10 minutes with liquid polish and an orbital buffer made the black/unpainted urethane look like new on ours. A local shop did it as a courtesy job for $20 (both front and rear) while I watched. Took out all the fine scratches, too. No sanding in our case.

A good detailer may also be an option.


took some shots with the sun hitting it. Looks better but its waxed. does not look good bare.. I will take it to a professional at some point.

Rich
12-28-2022, 06:36 PM
took some shots with the sun hitting it. Looks better but its waxed. does not look good bare.. I will take it to a professional at some point.

Lots better there.

For now or later (after the pro treatment) you can hit it with Meguire's Natural Shine or Mothers Back to Black. Be sure to wipe away all excess after application.

I do that 2-3 times per year on both ends. One upside is the bugs/schmutz that would otherwise stick to that front section - and the air dam - come off a lot easier. Waxing the paint takes care of the rest of it.

Timeless
12-29-2022, 07:35 AM
Anyone with experience with these 2?

https://3dproducts.com/collections/paint-trim-car-products/products/3d-trim-care-protectant-restorer-plastic-trim-bumpers

https://www.wolfgangcarcare.com/wolfgang-trim-sealant.html