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DMC-Dave
04-08-2023, 09:40 AM
I think I missed the party?all these options are not available.

https://store.delorean.com/digital%20door%20lock%20module-1.html - out of stock since forever?

https://www.deloreango.com/en/new-door-lock-module.html - dead link (Google)

https://www.deloreango.com/us/remote-central-locking.html - requires OEM (or non-existent replacement) module

https://www.delorean-parts.com/product/wings-a-loft-elite-remote-door-opening-system-auto-trans/ - out of stock/requires OEM (or non-existent replacement) module

My OEM currently works fine but would like to go more modern, I have this fear of being locked in/out. Maybe something new is just around the bend?

mhanch
04-08-2023, 11:57 AM
Dave Mckeen might have some of his units left. I got one and it works like a champ

WHO1DMC
04-08-2023, 12:14 PM
Dave Mckeen might have some of his units left. I got one and it works like a champ

I have one of Dave's units as well. There extremely well priced and small enough to fit in the original case. There's spots on the board to solder in a off the shelf keyless entry.
Dave works through this email. [email protected]


Dave B.

Rich
04-08-2023, 12:29 PM
I think I missed the party? all these options are not available.

I see what you see online.

Did both of those 2 vendors confirm to you they will no longer (never again) sell their solid state door lock modules?

Or is it only a lead time issue for either of them?

Bitsyncmaster
04-08-2023, 12:46 PM
A lot of the vendor problems are finding connectors and pins to mate with the stock harness. I'm always on the lookout for some connector pairs that could be used instead. Problem is pins need to use a crimper owners can buy ($). Also needs to have pins that can be used with 14 AWG or smaller wire.

I can sell my door lock unit without the connector if you have or can find a connector. Or you can butt splice the wires.

David T
04-09-2023, 01:59 PM
There are ways to make the OEM module more reliable and draw less power. There are several articles that detail how to fuse it, replace some components so it draws less stand-by current, and making the relays last longer. If you still have the OEM module and do not have any of these mods, you should unplug it. Everyone should also understand that if you have damaged solenoids, or the doors are not adjusted and closing properly, getting a solid-state module, or doing any of the mods to an OEM module WILL NOT make things work.

Timeless
04-10-2023, 08:14 AM
A lot of the vendor problems are finding connectors and pins to mate with the stock harness. I'm always on the lookout for some connector pairs that could be used instead. Problem is pins need to use a crimper owners can buy ($). Also needs to have pins that can be used with 14 AWG or smaller wire.
Maybe Waytek and/or Del City have connectors and pins.

MrChocky
04-10-2023, 10:36 AM
There are ways to make the OEM module more reliable and draw less power. There are several articles that detail how to fuse it, replace some components so it draws less stand-by current, and making the relays last longer. If you still have the OEM module and do not have any of these mods, you should unplug it. Everyone should also understand that if you have damaged solenoids, or the doors are not adjusted and closing properly, getting a solid-state module, or doing any of the mods to an OEM module WILL NOT make things work.

I'm keeping my OEM one connected just so I can say I'm not taking David T's life advice.

David T
04-10-2023, 12:54 PM
I'm keeping my OEM one connected just so I can say I'm not taking David T's life advice.

At least put a 10 amp fast blow in-line fuse into that big red wire going to the module. That way when the relay contacts weld together, that fuse will blow so you can get out of the car. Or not, your choice.

MrChocky
04-10-2023, 01:29 PM
At least put a 10 amp fast blow in-line fuse into that big red wire going to the module. That way when the relay contacts weld together, that fuse will blow so you can get out of the car. Or not, your choice.

Typical David T advice - high on anxiety, low on specifics, just broad statements.

DMC-Dave
04-10-2023, 03:34 PM
Thanks for the advice everyone. Definitely interested David in your module, will reach out about purchasing. I don't mind swapping out the connector.

David T
04-10-2023, 08:37 PM
I was pretty specific on the minimum you should do to continue to use the OEM module. The purpose of the fuse is so when the relay contacts weld themselves together the fuse will blow instead of burning up your solenoids, killing your battery, and preventing you from unlocking your doors. This is what happened to Johnny Carson and a lot of others. The circuit breaker that is in the circuit is too big and won't open but the fuse (10 amps) will. If you require further explanation there are several write-up and posts that are more detailed. BTW, if the 10 amp fuse blows but the relays are still working it means either one or both of your solenoids is (are) already burnt. There are write-ups on how rewind them or replace them with actuators. For most the Central Locking System isn't worth the hassle so they will just unplug the module and lock-unlock the doors individually. It can take a LOT of work to make the CLS work. Both doors MUST be adjusted correctly and that is a fiddly procedure including adjusting all 4 door lock anchors so all 4 locks achieve 2nd locking position. That's why some owners will buy a solid-state module hoping it will "fix" everything and be disappointed when it doesn't.

DMC-Dave
04-11-2023, 01:35 AM
I see what you see online.

Did both of those 2 vendors confirm to you they will no longer (never again) sell their solid state door lock modules?

Or is it only a lead time issue for either of them?

I didn?t reach out, have just been checking for months on end with no luck.

Elvis
04-14-2023, 03:52 PM
Typical David T advice - high on anxiety, low on specifics, just broad statements.

in this case my work and advices in all the years was useless, too.

thanks for telling me it is a waste of time to help delorean owners

todd1561
04-14-2023, 08:12 PM
Typical David T advice - high on anxiety, low on specifics, just broad statements.

Seems pretty specific to me, right down to the fuse size and type. And it is a legitimate issue that affected many cars early on from what I understand. I'm not sure why Dave gets so much flak around here. He's been around longer than most and knows a few things. He even provided some insight to me on the DML 19 years ago when I was buying my car.

Todd

Malevy
04-20-2023, 05:16 PM
I also have some options for repair or replacing the door lock modules.

https://malevy-dmc.blogspot.com/2022/06/unlocking-mystery-of-delorean-lock.html

Let me know how I can help. Connectors have been a problem for me too. You can buy them, but they are expensive.

Rich
06-02-2023, 01:42 PM
Updating for the community:

Houston's module is back in stock now.

Link to Digital Door Lock Module listing (https://store.delorean.com/digital%20door%20lock%20module-1.html)


PS, strongly recommend the remote keyless entry upgrade

David T
06-02-2023, 04:04 PM
Updating for the community:

Houston's module is back in stock now.

Link to Digital Door Lock Module listing (https://store.delorean.com/digital%20door%20lock%20module-1.html)


PS, strongly recommend the remote keyless entry upgrade

YES, the keyless entry is VERY nice and helps reduce a lot of wear on your door locks and key. It is also one step towards the remote actuators (to open the doors remotely, not just to unlock them) if that is what you want to do.

Bitsyncmaster
06-02-2023, 05:13 PM
The problem I have with key less entry is the FOB receiver draws about 15 ma. all the time. Not bad for a daily driver but if your car sits for months, not good. Also it would not be nice to have a second FOB on my key chain. You would need a separate key chain when driving the D.

DMC-81
06-03-2023, 04:34 PM
I think I missed the party?all these options are not available.

https://store.delorean.com/digital%20door%20lock%20module-1.html - out of stock since forever?

https://www.deloreango.com/en/new-door-lock-module.html - dead link (Google)

https://www.deloreango.com/us/remote-central-locking.html - requires OEM (or non-existent replacement) module

https://www.delorean-parts.com/product/wings-a-loft-elite-remote-door-opening-system-auto-trans/ - out of stock/requires OEM (or non-existent replacement) module

My OEM currently works fine but would like to go more modern, I have this fear of being locked in/out. Maybe something new is just around the bend?

Hi Dave, in case you decide to modify your original DLM, here is a thread that covers this.

https://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?13059-Assessing-OEM-Door-Lock-Module-(DLM)-and-solenoids

Since I did this, my door locks have been bulletproof.