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jfirios
10-17-2011, 12:31 AM
who here has installed a momo wheel? Have you rewired the horn switch to the steering wheel, or have you left the horn activation on the stick? would it be hard to switch the wiring from the stick to the center of the new wheel?

TTait
10-17-2011, 01:23 AM
who here has installed a momo wheel? Have you rewired the horn switch to the steering wheel, or have you left the horn activation on the stick? would it be hard to switch the wiring from the stick to the center of the new wheel?

Physical wiring to a new button in the center would be very difficult as there are no slip rings. Your best bet is leaving the horn in the stalk, and if you want to experiment with a battery powered wireless transmitter to a relay tied in parallel to the existing switch. The challenge is that there will be a some delay in the wireless transmitter - finding the lowest latency and a small form factor will be key. You don't need the horn sounding half a second after you press the button.

Jeff K
10-18-2011, 06:02 PM
Physical wiring to a new button in the center would be very difficult as there are no slip rings. Your best bet is leaving the horn in the stalk, and if you want to experiment with a battery powered wireless transmitter to a relay tied in parallel to the existing switch. The challenge is that there will be a some delay in the wireless transmitter - finding the lowest latency and a small form factor will be key. You don't need the horn sounding half a second after you press the button.

I left the horn stock. My steering wheel rocks!

protodelorean
10-18-2011, 08:35 PM
Physical wiring to a new button in the center would be very difficult as there are no slip rings. Your best bet is leaving the horn in the stalk, and if you want to experiment with a battery powered wireless transmitter to a relay tied in parallel to the existing switch. The challenge is that there will be a some delay in the wireless transmitter - finding the lowest latency and a small form factor will be key. You don't need the horn sounding half a second after you press the button.

Ding Ding Ding!!!! TTait wins! I have a Momo wheel and planned to do exactly what he described with the wireless remote. (Would've been pretty cool too since I have a quick-release on my wheel so I could have the wheel outside of the car, press the horn button on the wheel and the car horn would still sound.) Problem I ran into was there was a considerable delay from pushing the button to the relay closing. Haven't done much research or experimenting with other units, so for now, horn's on the stalk. : )

jfirios
10-18-2011, 10:21 PM
how difficult was it to put the new wheel on the car? Danny at DMC says it is fairly simple to do with the hubs they sell. I should hopefully get my car back from the shop tomorrow.

TTait
10-18-2011, 11:25 PM
Very simple. Danny can give you any tips - but have no fear.

off topic -

As alternates to actually triggering the horn - I can only suggest what I came up with in a proposal for an ex girlfriend. She had a bad habit of letting go of the wheel and screaming when things got dicey (ask me how I know)...

I postulated that the proper hardware for her was (A) a dead man switch on the wheel that would kill the ignition when she let go, (B) an optical beam sensor across the a pillars to detect her flailing arms and turn on the hazzards, and (C) a headset mic, amp and blues brother speaker on the top of the roof that would broadcast her screams to all surrounding traffic...

jfirios
10-18-2011, 11:48 PM
that is really funny

Dangermouse
10-19-2011, 08:06 AM
I left the horn stock. My steering wheel rocks!
Pics please?


Physical wiring to a new button in the center would be very difficult as there are no slip rings. .

Rather than slip-rings, I have been learning a little about so-called "clock springs" - my friend has a bad one on his Explorer for his airbag and we are working out how to change it.

They look like this loose,

http://www.f150forum.com/attachments/f12/6740d1248237458t-air-bag-clock-spring-8.jpg
and like this installed

http://members.rennlist.com/jandreas/HornContactOnSteeringColumn.jpg

anyone looked at fitting one to a D.? Looks like one part is stationary and the inner part turns with the wheel with a couple of sets of contacts.

Spittybug
10-19-2011, 10:07 AM
On a very similar note, I'm still wondering if a slim profile GPS/backup monitor/MP3 player (or iTouch kind of thing) could be made to cradle in the center of the wheel and have its connections to power, radio and camera be made through a similar ring device.

I've tried mounting on dash (glare and distance from driver become problems), flipping down from visor, on A pillar, in front of air vents, in place of ashtray.....etc. But the best location for something like that is in front of your face!! Without a horn or air bag to worry about there is a sweet spot available.

protodelorean
10-19-2011, 01:17 PM
Rather than slip-rings, I have been learning a little about so-called "clock springs"

Hmmmm. Now THAT looks interesting. I've got a salvage yard 5 miles from here. I'll be pulling one of those out to play with!

Thanks Dermot!

TTait
10-19-2011, 07:17 PM
Hmmmm. Now THAT looks interesting. I've got a salvage yard 5 miles from here. I'll be pulling one of those out to play with!

Thanks Dermot!

Be careful getting at it, remember that there is an airbag in front of it in most cases. Understand that the airbags are inflated by what are essentially small rocket motors like you played with as a kid... Unless you have experience working with them start by looking at cars that have the airbag deployed already or removed.

jfirios
10-19-2011, 07:20 PM
wise advice, but it has been my experience at junk yards, that one of the first things that gets taken out by the yard are the airbags because of the resale value of them. but yes they are something you dont want to mess with or you can get really hurt.

pt11334
10-19-2011, 11:46 PM
How about some pictures of the wheels.

jfirios
10-19-2011, 11:59 PM
this is the one I am thinking about putting in my car.

TTait
10-20-2011, 03:24 AM
Now this is a cool wheel...

6138

Might be more appropriate in a DMC-5 though...

Dangermouse
10-20-2011, 01:13 PM
wise advice, but it has been my experience at junk yards, that one of the first things that gets taken out by the yard are the airbags because of the resale value of them. but yes they are something you dont want to mess with or you can get really hurt.

+1

plus it's never a good idea to injure your customers in the course of business.

It may even be a legal requirement to keep explosives out of inquisitive hands.

SIMid
10-21-2011, 01:34 AM
If you want something a little more unique, a mate of mine introduced me to the Isotta brand a few years ago.

http://www.isotta.com/eng/main.php

If I was to change the wheel on the D, this would be something I would consider.

http://carview-img04.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPat/1724059/p1.jpg

http://yenspeed.com/index.aspx?page=product&id=7

jfirios
10-23-2011, 02:27 AM
wow, love their wheels, Might think about that over the momo.