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spinaltap1
11-22-2023, 07:19 PM
hi guys, i'm thinking of getting a quickjack lifter for my cars.
wondering what is the distance between the front and rear jacking plates on the delorean. i don't have access to my car at the minute.
thanks.

WHO1DMC
11-22-2023, 08:01 PM
I've been using one on my D for about 7 years now. I'll try and help as much as I can.
First off I have the 3500 model. Model number is how much weight it's rated for. The 3500 doesn't reach the jacking points. But I've never had a problem because it uses rubber blocks. They do offer an extension adapter that is only for the models above 3500. The models seem to be all the same dimensions. My car is lowered so the unit with extension unit will not fit under the car without raising the car somehow first. The car does flex a little bit when lifted.
If I happen to be wrong that the other models are the same. The length of the frame of the 3500 is a few inches from wheel to wheel when centered.


Dave B

WHO1DMC
11-22-2023, 08:21 PM
I've been using one on my D for about 7 years now. I'll try and help as much as I can.
First off I have the 3500 model. Model number is how much weight it's rated for. The 3500 doesn't reach the jacking points. But I've never had a problem because it uses rubber blocks. They do offer an extension adapter that is only for the models above 3500. The models seem to be all the same dimensions. My car is lowered so the unit with extension unit will not fit under the car without raising the car somehow first. The car does flex a little bit when lifted.
If I happen to be wrong that the other models are the same. The length of the frame of the 3500 is a few inches from wheel to wheel when centered.


Dave B

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FABombjoy
11-22-2023, 08:33 PM
I have the 5000TL which reaches the jack plates just barely.
It's been great, very handy for multiple projects. My only advice is to be conscious of how level your garage is and the direction of lift.
If you have some grade to your floor and set them opposite of WHO1DMC's pic it might be wobbly due to the car's weight distribution.

JETS 81 DMC
11-22-2023, 10:32 PM
The distance between the lifting pads center to center is 53 1/2"

David T
11-23-2023, 09:47 AM
A floor jack and jackstands would be more flexible. Hard to work underneath the car with that thing in the way.

WHO1DMC
11-23-2023, 10:47 AM
A floor jack and jackstands would be more flexible. Hard to work underneath the car with that thing in the way.

Well it's called the quick jack for a reason it's quicker.
Now if you feel you need better access to the center of the car you put jack stands in lower the unit and remove.
I'm not a skinny fella and I've done a lot of work under my car with this. Sliding the unit under and hitting a button to raise the car is also funner.
The first time I used mine was in the driveway. My neighbor seen this and gave this look. I told him that I was teaching the car how to fly.




Dave B.

FABombjoy
11-23-2023, 07:17 PM
A floor jack and jackstands would be more flexible. Hard to work underneath the car with that thing in the way.
It gets in the way of literally nothing. Its easier to work around a QuickJack than a 2 post lift.

If you're setting suspension height or adjusting alignment it's extremely useful to raise and lower the entire car at once. Any time you're working upper and lower engine really.

JETS 81 DMC
11-24-2023, 02:39 PM
F.Y.I.

The Quickjacks can also be placed from side to side of the car instead of front to back which would then provide the side clearance if needed.

WHO1DMC
11-24-2023, 03:17 PM
F.Y.I.

The Quickjacks can also be placed from side to side of the car instead of front to back which would then provide the side clearance if needed.

Technically yes. But you have to make sure you're lifting at the lift points or the outer rails. You may risk damage I.E. punching though the tub. Remember there not like other cars under there.
Personally I wouldn't try it at least with the setup I have!



David B.

JETS 81 DMC
11-24-2023, 04:00 PM
Technically yes. But you have to make sure you're lifting at the lift points or the outer rails. You may risk damage I.E. punching though the tub. Remember there not like other cars under there.
Personally I wouldn't try it at least with the setup I have!



David B.

I agree and maybe I should have stated that they still need to be used on at the lift points.

I don't know the what the distance is for the lift points from side to side.

I might be able to measure that over the weekend or maybe someone can do that and post.

82DMC12
11-27-2023, 11:39 AM
I did an entire frame swap in my garage with only scissor jacks, two floor jacks, and four jackstands so the utility of these "lifts" is quite dubious to me. Yeah I guess it's "faster" but how often do you have to lift the car up? I don't like lifting from the VARI body at all to be honest. The "jack points" are, in my opinion, for emergency tire change use only.

WNY1983
11-27-2023, 01:06 PM
I have used my quick jack for 4 years now. No issues or problems. I replaced my rear axles in my DMC back in the spring. Plenty of room. My friend Scott came over, used it for a rear brake job and oil change on his DMC. It is one of the best purchases for my car and garage. Money well spent.

r00b
11-27-2023, 01:36 PM
I wouldn't want to continuously lift the entire weight of the frame with engine and everything from the body. When I replaced my frame I found I was missing a couple body bolts. Over time it could be fine, but what if it's not.

82DMC12
11-27-2023, 01:44 PM
I wouldn't want to continuously lift the entire weight of the frame with engine and everything from the body. When I replaced my frame I found I was missing a couple body bolts. Over time it could be fine, but what if it's not.

I would have to defer to the vendors who deal with this stuff on a daily basis, but the underbody has a surprising amount of flex and my passenger door doesn't shut well if I have jackstands under the front body jack points and jack stands under the rear crossmember. I've been in this for a quarter century now and have heard all kinds of stories about windows loosening from their seals when lifting on the body. Once you've had the body off and you look at those little M10 screws holding the body to the frame??? I'll pass.

WHO1DMC
11-27-2023, 01:54 PM
I wouldn't want to continuously lift the entire weight of the frame with engine and everything from the body. When I replaced my frame I found I was missing a couple body bolts. Over time it could be fine, but what if it's not.Well with that being unfortunate. The multiple DeLorean shops do it every day with two post lifts.
The above picture of mine was earlier this year doing brakes and tires. Last month doing oil and fuel filter.



Dave B.

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r00b
11-27-2023, 04:50 PM
Well with that being unfortunate. The multiple DeLorean shops do it every day with two post lifts.
The above picture of mine was earlier this year doing brakes and tires. Last month doing oil and fuel filter.


I'm sure they do it every day with different vehicles, not the same one. It could be fine for 1000 lifts, but at 1001 when you are underneath it, if the body fails where the bolts hold it to the frame then the frame will smash you -Splat-. It could be fine for a million lifts but I don't care to risk it, I'll lift from the frame.

82DMC12
11-27-2023, 04:58 PM
I'm sure they do it every day with different vehicles, not the same one. It could be fine for 1000 lifts, but at 1001 when you are underneath it, if the body fails where the bolts hold it to the frame then the frame will smash you -Splat-. It could be fine for a million lifts but I don't care to risk it, I'll lift from the frame.Exactly

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WHO1DMC
11-27-2023, 05:30 PM
I'm sure they do it every day with different vehicles, not the same one. It could be fine for 1000 lifts, but at 1001 when you are underneath it, if the body fails where the bolts hold it to the frame then the frame will smash you -Splat-. It could be fine for a million lifts but I don't care to risk it, I'll lift from the frame.

This can be said about any vehicle being lifted. Nothing is 100% certain. One falt in any part of the chain in lifting a car can result in as you put it splat. For instance there was a recall few years ago of jack stands causing injuries. So nothing is 100%. Just walking across your room and you can stub your toe.



Nothing is 100% certain!
Dave B.

82DMC12
11-27-2023, 05:36 PM
This can be said about any vehicle being lifted. Nothing is 100% certain. One falt in any part of the chain in lifting a car can result in as you put it splat. For instance there was a recall few years ago of jack stands causing injuries. So nothing is 100%. Just walking across your room and you can stub your toe.



Nothing is 100% certain!
Dave B.


Since this is a friendly discussion, my rebuttal is this: I'm not so much worried about the chassis falling out of the VARI body (don't think I ever heard of this happening), I'm more concerned with flexing and damage to the underbody and everything glued and bolted to it. This will absolutely not happen if you lift from the front or rear crossmember which, let's face it, can be done just as fast as taking two QuickJack's off the wall hooks, getting it lined up, hooking up the pump, and lifting the car from less optimal place. It's well known if you have the chassis out of the car and you have the body suspended by 4x4's for a longer period of time, the body will go banana-shaped and you have a tough time getting the front and rear body bolts back in place and it takes a long time to settle. Like I said, I did a whole damn frame off with four scissor jacks, two shitty floor jacks, and four jackstands so I'm WAYYYYY past the point of finding QuickJack "essential" or even convenient. Just my opinion!

glockworks21
11-27-2023, 10:15 PM
Since this is a friendly discussion, my rebuttal is this: I'm not so much worried about the chassis falling out of the VARI body (don't think I ever heard of this happening), I'm more concerned with flexing and damage to the underbody and everything glued and bolted to it. This will absolutely not happen if you lift from the front or rear crossmember which, let's face it, can be done just as fast as taking two QuickJack's off the wall hooks, getting it lined up, hooking up the pump, and lifting the car from less optimal place. It's well known if you have the chassis out of the car and you have the body suspended by 4x4's for a longer period of time, the body will go banana-shaped and you have a tough time getting the front and rear body bolts back in place and it takes a long time to settle. Like I said, I did a whole damn frame off with four scissor jacks, two shitty floor jacks, and four jackstands so I'm WAYYYYY past the point of finding QuickJack "essential" or even convenient. Just my opinion!

newer here but have learned a lot. completely agree with the body flex. I hate jack stands in general. espically the metal top hook style. Ive never trusted them in past unless on a straight axle.

I got these when i bought car and they have been great. Good price, excellent rubber surface contact(which is the biggest advantage imo) and a fairly low profile.
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