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pezzonovante88
12-10-2011, 08:17 PM
How do you get out of the car if the locks malfunction and you get locked in? Is there a manual override or do you have to hope someone passes by the car and sees you?
Spittybug
12-10-2011, 08:53 PM
How do you get out of the car if the locks malfunction and you get locked in? Is there a manual override or do you have to hope someone passes by the car and sees you?
You hope the passer by doesn't see you.
pezzonovante88
12-10-2011, 09:05 PM
You hope the passer by doesn't see you.
Very true haha! But, pretty unlikely when its a DeLorean!
Cory W
12-10-2011, 09:58 PM
If the lock solenoids have chosen to stay energized in the lock position, you:
1. Hope you don't have a full rear parcel tray.
2. Fold the parcel tray carpet over, and lift off the wooden fuse/relay area cover.
3. Unplug the door lock module.
4. Depending on your flexibility, go see a chiropractor.
If your door latch and lock rods have chosen not to cooperate, you have to remove the interior door panels to manually move the rods so you can open the door. Hopefully the other door works so you can climb over the center console to get out and get tools.
SamHill
12-10-2011, 10:01 PM
5. If possible, roll down window, put key in door and manually unlock.
Spittybug
12-10-2011, 10:05 PM
5. If possible, roll down window, put key in door and manually unlock.
Ding, ding, ding....winner!
Ryan King
12-10-2011, 10:17 PM
Or unscrew your shifter ball and break through the windshield. Spared no expense.
Jonathan
12-10-2011, 10:48 PM
Right on Ryan. I was going to say: use the bottom end of your fire extinguisher to bash out the window.
opethmike
12-10-2011, 11:27 PM
I've had it happen to me several times. Roll down your window. Undo the top door panel. Pop the two rods out of the bell crank. Rotate the bell crank. Pull the two rods while leaning against the door. Out you go.
Notifier
12-11-2011, 09:47 AM
Don't lock the door!
David T
12-11-2011, 11:59 AM
If you do get locked in it is because of 1 of two reasons. You are still using the original locking module and didn't even put a 10 A fuse in the big red wire or:
you have been forcing the doors for a while and figured it was no big deal and knew the doors were not working right. If you are proactive and fix the problem BEFORE you got yourself stuck then you would not have to ask this question. There is another way to get out. You wait until the battery eventually goes dead and has fried the lock solenoids. At that point you will be able to unlock the doors if it is the lock module that locked you in.
David Teitelbaum
Elvis
12-11-2011, 06:29 PM
How do you get out of the car if the locks malfunction and you get locked in? Is there a manual override or do you have to hope someone passes by the car and sees you?
When it's the door lock ECU - then it's your fault if you still have no 10A fuse in the fat red wire. Those original relays fail ! They all do one day and may lock you in !
A 10A Fuse and you're safe !!!
But it can also happen mechanically. I worked on a car a few days ago where the rods were sligtly misadjusted. One cold morning one door didn't unlock the front latch.
Had to take off the door panels with the door still closed and had to pull the lower rod
that goes to the front latch a bit.
But it's unlikely that both doors don't open.
Also it's unlikely that you can unlock the door by key but not with the switch.
Farrar
12-13-2011, 11:18 AM
Not to drift too far off topic, but is the 10A fuse in the big red wire common knowledge? This is the first I've heard of adding a fuse there. What's recommended -- glass fuse or blade fuse? Should I also do this for LockZilla?
Farrar
Dangermouse
12-13-2011, 12:12 PM
How do you get out of the car if the locks malfunction and you get locked in? Is there a manual override or do you have to hope someone passes by the car and sees you?
Go on-line with your smart-phone. Come here and post "HELP - I locked in and Can't get out" thread and you will have instant help.
But above all:
http://moststronglysupported.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/colin-lsat-blog-dont-panic.jpg
robvanderveer
12-13-2011, 12:40 PM
I promise i'll only use the fire extinguisher/gear knob only if i'm stuck on a railway crossing (for effect). For other emergencies, I have a life hammer.
For non-emergencies, i would switch power off (battery mass switch), pull the door trim and wiggle the rods to free myself.
I once got locked in and tried to use the key-through-the-toll-booth-window suggestion, but my key slipped from my hands on the floor, 2mm from a drain.
Jeff K
12-13-2011, 01:09 PM
Not to drift too far off topic, but is the 10A fuse in the big red wire common knowledge? This is the first I've heard of adding a fuse there. What's recommended -- glass fuse or blade fuse? Should I also do this for LockZilla?
Farrar
I'm with you - any PDF or document on this?
Elvis
12-13-2011, 01:15 PM
I wrote this like 20 times and DavidT also.
a PDF "how to install a fuse in a wire" ?
Farrar
12-13-2011, 01:59 PM
I wrote this like 20 times and DavidT also.
Well, since I am not a stalker, I don't follow all of y'all's posts.
Thanks... I guess.
Glass fuse or blade fuse?
Farrar
Elvis
12-13-2011, 02:08 PM
10 Amps
Farrar
12-13-2011, 02:13 PM
Glass fuse or blade fuse?
10 Amps
:banghead:
Farrar
jawn101
12-13-2011, 03:03 PM
Does this 10A fuse trick still apply if the original DLM is in place but has been upgraded with actuators rather than the solenoids? The DLM now runs through the 2 required additional relays for the actuators, and the lock/latch alignment is correct.
Elvis
12-13-2011, 04:15 PM
Good question, but I doubt that the actuator pull that much current.
I'm not even sure if the actuators are driven by the original relays, too long ago
since I installed that single kit.
10A fuse is for the original solenoids.
(and hey - it doesn't matter if the housing is glas, plastik, ceramik, paper or wood.
if somebody would ask me if it needs to be a slow or fast burning fuse, I may have an
answer...but the housing... :facepalm: )
Farrar
12-13-2011, 04:26 PM
(and hey - it doesn't matter if the housing is glas, plastik, ceramik, paper or wood.
if somebody would ask me if it needs to be a slow or fast burning fuse, I may have an
answer...but the housing... :facepalm: )
Interesting technique, only answering questions you deem worthy of your response. Now I am glad I don't stalk you.
"The speed at which a fuse blows depends on how much current flows through it and the material of which the fuse is made." --Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuse_(electrical)#Speed)
I was under the impression that the material of which the fuse is made would affect the speed at which it blows, hence my question of plastic versus glass. Unfortunately, I did not ask the question in the proper manner for His Honorable Sagacity. :notworthy:
[Moderator Edit]Mean words were here[/Moderator Edit]
Farrar
David T
12-13-2011, 05:26 PM
I never really did a write-up of this nor do I remember if Elvis did although it isn't really all that complicated. The big red wire going to the door lock module comes off a circuit breaker that will only blow if the car is on fire and it will reset itself again and again. The circuit breaker is WAY too big and resets. A fuse that is much smaller will protect the solenoids and once it blows it will not reset. Once you fix the problem you can replace the fuse. You cut the big red wire and stick a fuse-holder in with whatever type of fuse you want just as long as it is a 10 A fuse. This is NOT necessary for Lockzilla if you have it. The fuse is a "weak link" and is supposed to be sized to melt to prevent damage to other components in the circuit like the wires, switches, relays, solenoids, etc. I prefer 15 A because if you cycle the locks too much, too quickly you will blow the 10 A, the 15 A will still protect the solenoids but will allow more use of the locking system in a short period of time. In all cases it should be a fuse and NOT a circuit breaker. You do not want it to reset automatically. If you stick the fuse in and it blows you have to replace or rewind your lock solenoids, they have been fried. If you have actuators you can probably go even smaller than 10A.
David Teitelbaum
Jonathan
12-13-2011, 10:47 PM
But above all:
http://moststronglysupported.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/colin-lsat-blog-dont-panic.jpg
But definitely make sure you have your towel with you ;) Either that or a pocket full of 42 Amp fuses...
TTait
12-14-2011, 12:24 AM
:banghead:
Farrar
Farrar:
There is no polarity on a fuse. Either side can go to +...
hehehe couldn't resist.
1batt4u
12-14-2011, 12:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kSdvJ0Xhhs&feature=related
Jonathan
12-14-2011, 07:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kSdvJ0Xhhs&feature=related
I see your Family Guy stuck in the car clip and raise you one stuck on an escalator clip, lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSIkjNaICsg
1batt4u
12-15-2011, 01:28 AM
I see your Family Guy stuck in the car clip and raise you one stuck on an escalator clip, lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSIkjNaICsg
Hahaha!! Thats a good one!!!!
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