How-To guide for carpet installation?

[Henrik]

Is there a How-To guide for carpet installation? The area along the door threshold where the carpet meets the door trim looks tricky - not sure how that comes apart.

Thanks,

Henrik

[dmc6960]

Youll need to remove the seats and center console.

Main carpet sections mostly just sit on the bottom. The door sill pieces will probably be glued down. They are also folded under the inner weatherstip. You'll need to remove that as well. The rear pieces (behind the seat) will probably be stapled to the wood pieces. The wheel wells are glued. I am unsure how the rear piece (under the rear window) is attached, it will either be staples or glue.

Installation is the reverse of install. Just put everything back on the same way they came off.

[jawn101]

The hard part of the bits along the sills is that they have unbroken edge trim that goes up into the A-pillars. I chose to take a very sharp knife and cut the trim in half right where it joined the dashboard to take those sections out. Then when I put them back, a small piece of electrical tape hides the seam very well.

[john 05141]

Above comments are correct.
I did use some glue everywhere, especially to make sure the carpets will be in good position before starting on the dooropening which I glues firmly.
After you remove the weather stripping, there are some metal clips to hold the edge trim. I glued the edge trim too. First the visual top part of it. After it was dry I cut the trim so it would just go under the edge. I did this to make sure if water would go in the dooropening, the edge trip would not be able to soak it up. There should not be a lot of water there, but just in case.

Then I did NOT put those metal clips back on, it is not necessary and they remain visible under the rubber weatherstripping. Much nicer look without the metal clips.

John

[82DMC12]

If I'm replacing the just the passenger side carpet and the passenger side sill carpet, does the console have to come out? What all needs to be removed, besides the bottom weatherstripping? Should I use any glue? I was thinking some of that spray-on adhesive, at least for the sill part.

Andy

[john 05141]

You might be able to install it without removing the console. But I would not use spray on glue. Be careful, once glued down, you will damage the carpet if you try to get it loose again, so make sure you get it in place right from the first time. Glue it down in steps not the whole doorsill in one time.


John

[Henrik]

What glue should I use? (Type, brand, how much, where to buy it etc)

[john 05141]

I used Pattex. It is for sale all over Europe, not sure if that excists in the US.
You have to apply it on both sides of the carpet. It does not penetrate the fabric (very important) and after 5 minutes it feels dry, you press it on. Works very well for me.

John

[Henrik]

I used Pattex. It is for sale all over Europe, not sure if that excists in the US.
You have to apply it on both sides of the carpet. It does not penetrate the fabric (very important) and after 5 minutes it feels dry, you press it on. Works very well for me.

John

Does anyone know what the equivalent would be called in the US and where one might buy it?

[Henrik]

Does anyone know what the equivalent would be called in the US and where one might buy it?

Hey, that's a really good question:). Does anyone know?

[Dangermouse]

Pattex is made by Henkel.

Here is their US adhesives site

http://www.henkelna.com/brands-and-solutions/adhesives-sealants-surface-treatments-6072.htm

Perhaps if we know the product name, you could find an outlet in the States?

They also make Loctite, so it may not be hard to find.

[john 05141]

If you're comming to DCS, I will bring you a tube,and tell you how to do this.


John

[john 05141]

This is the one.
Maybe it looks familiar?
This picture shows a tranparent version, I used a brown colored version that is more used to glue on rubber on your shoes. It smells exactely like to a shoe repair shop.

John

[David T]

I use a spray adhesive by 3M. Works great and it has a very fine tip so you can accurately shoot the glue where you want. If you do get some on the carpet where it shows it cleans right off (3M cleaner). The best part is if you have to remove the carpet, you can without damaging it. Sets up quick too. I don't go crazy with it, along the edges and some spots in the middle is all you need.
David Teitelbaum




This is the one.
Maybe it looks familiar?
This picture shows a tranparent version, I used a brown colored version that is more used to glue on rubber on your shoes. It smells exactely like to a shoe repair shop.

John

[gulwng3]

I'm installing a carpet set from DMCH and starting with the passenger side floor and door sill. It is nicely molded and once I laid it in, I didn't see any reason to use any glue or adhesive. I folded the loose leather trim under and pressed the inner door seal back on. Is there any reason why one should use glue or adhesive for these areas?

Thanks,
Andy

[JohnZ]

Once upon a time there was just one kind of Pattex / Bostik and we glued everything and more with that. Now there are several kinds of glues (carpet glue, wood glue, metal glue, rubber glue)... but aren't they just the same in the end?

:umm:

[gulwng3]

Probably, but my question was more about using glue vs. not using glue. I'm trying to discover if anyone has had any ill effects from not using glue when replacing the carpet.

Andy

[David T]

Probably, but my question was more about using glue vs. not using glue. I'm trying to discover if anyone has had any ill effects from not using glue when replacing the carpet.

Andy

You should use *some* glue just so the carpet doesn't move around. As you enter and leave the car and you put all of your weight in one spot and slide in or out, the carpet could move. That means some on the sill and some in the middle of the floor. Before installing the carpet you might consider adding some sound deadening materiel like Dynamat. Don't go crazy with it, it is expensive and adds a lot of weight.

[Bitsyncmaster]

When I first got my car about 6 years ago, I pulled the passenger side carpet out when I pulled the AC box. From memory, the carpet was not glued anywhere. Pretty sure my carpet is original.

[DrJeff]

When I first got my car about 6 years ago, I pulled the passenger side carpet out when I pulled the AC box. From memory, the carpet was not glued anywhere. Pretty sure my carpet is original.

About the only place my carpet appeared to be glued down was on the sides of the center console. That was also the location of some carpet foam (underlay, passing, soundproofing).

I used carpet tape from the hardware store when reinstalling to secure the new carpet in place. The DMCH carpet came with some padding (fibrous mat like) in a limited number of spots.

[Byrne H&A]

Hello Everyone.

We use 3M Adhesive 77 spray on our carpets and it works very well. Thanks, Byrne

[john 05141]

this thread started early this year.
I guess the carpets are already installed at the beginning of the season?

I bought a carpet set from John Hervey, and this was right before DMC put theirs on the market.
Hervey's carpets are not molden but stiched, and they do not fall into place like DMC's ones does. But I am perfectly happy with mine and after several years they show no sign of wear.

But by removing the old original carpets the doorsills were the only areas glued. And as mentioned earlier at the wooden board they are stapled. Not a good idea, do NOT do this. The reason staples are bad is that by correcting the carpet, the place where the staple is creates sort of a wrinkle, and it took me a lot of time to get them out without damaging the carpet.
So on selected places I used glue.
The seats are bolted down on the carpet so it is obvious you do not need any glue there.
Loosening the bolts of the console is likelly enough to put the carpet under there and in my case the padded part of the carpet stays there very nicely.

Jan

[Jonathan]

I'm installing a carpet set from DMCH and starting with the passenger side floor and door sill. It is nicely molded and once I laid it in, I didn't see any reason to use any glue or adhesive. I folded the loose leather trim under and pressed the inner door seal back on. Is there any reason why one should use glue or adhesive for these areas?

Thanks,
Andy


Probably, but my question was more about using glue vs. not using glue. I'm trying to discover if anyone has had any ill effects from not using glue when replacing the carpet.

Andy

I had most of my interior out of the car last winter to replace the stereo, wiring and speakers. I did not replace any of my carpeting, but when I reinstalled it, I did not use any adhesive or staples. The only piece that did not come completely out was the one along the lower edge of the door frame and is tucked under the vinyl trim (much like the way the rear interior panels are held in place). I elected to leave that one as it was since I didn't feel like damaging the vinyl trying to use the heat gun to remove it.

I have not seen any of the carpeting move or shift around the seats or console. The piece that sits on the vertical across the battery compartment and cubby hole could probably stand to have a staple or two. It is tucked in at the top about where the cargo net hooks are and can come loose if you pull on it. Otherwise I did not see the need for gluing the carpet pieces back in. This may change after a couple more seasons if I see it start to get out of place.

[gulwng3]

Thanks to all for your excellent insight.

Andy

[gulwng3]

I'm getting ready to replace the carpet piece that sits on the vertical across the battery compartment and tucks into the cubby hole behind the driver's seat. Any tips or tricks on doing the cubby hole? The rest should just lay in with maybe a few staples or adhesive to hold it where it tucks over the top, but the cubby hole looks challenging.

Andy

[DrJeff]

I'm getting ready to replace the carpet piece that sits on the vertical across the battery compartment and tucks into the cubby hole behind the driver's seat. Any tips or tricks on doing the cubby hole? The rest should just lay in with maybe a few staples or adhesive to hold it where it tucks over the top, but the cubby hole looks challenging.

Andy

My cubby hole is probably where I didn't do as well as I would have liked. I'd very carefully work the cuts and fattening to make sure it doesn't end up pulling on the carpet elsewhere. Biggest challenge was getting staples into the edges inside the cubby hole, I.e. after the carpet had wrapped around the edge. I might go back and see if I can clean up the edge with some edge trim and avoid the cut and folded carpet look.

[gulwng3]

Thanks. Good thing the cubby hole door should cover my mistakes... hopefully...

Andy