View Full Version : Fuel Waking a sleeping D...what parts do we need?
uhhair
07-26-2012, 10:44 PM
So our new D, vin #16647 has finally arrived! This weekend, I plan on draining and cleaning out the gas tank and prepare all the other fuel parts to be cleaned or replaced. My question is, I know that with the new fuel pump kit from Houston we will have everything we need fuel related for the front half of the car but what else do we need. I know we will need a new accumulator, filter, and I believe there are two hoses in the engine bay that will need replaced correct? Anything else that needs to be replaced? I know we can simply clean the injectors and reuse them, as for the 6 fuel lines going to the engine from the Kjet yes? Also, I need reading about some metering pin on the fuel distributor that we need to pay attention to...can someone clarify this for us. This will be our first time really digging into the fuel system so a lot of this is new to us any help we can get would be greatly appreciated!
Here ya go: http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?352-K-Jetronic-System
Also, Cleaning injectors takes a good machine and you get mixed results.
FWIW, A few years back, I sent 14 "good" ones to a vendor to pick 6 out of to clean. They sucked! Others reported similar results.
Tillsy
07-27-2012, 12:05 AM
I know that with the new fuel pump kit from Houston we will have everything we need fuel related for the front half of the car but what else do we need. I know we will need a new accumulator, filter,
The all-new fuel pump kit already comes with a new filter, but not a new accumulator.
uhhair
07-27-2012, 09:08 AM
Thanks, that thread does have some helpful resources! In regards to the hoses in the engine bay, which ones are hard lines that can stay and soft ones that need replaced? Also thanks for the heads up about the filter coming with the kit.
Bitsyncmaster
07-27-2012, 10:09 AM
I would flush the fuel lines as best you can. That includes the return line so you don't get crap back into that clean tank. So your FD is the only thing that is going to be hard to clean. Most people just run the engine (if it runs) and that may clean the FD enough.
I don't beleave in injector cleaning for our injectors. They can not get any rust or solids removed unless the injector is forced open durring the cleaning. So just try to run it with the old injectors. You can later replace them if they have problems.
stevedmc
07-27-2012, 11:07 AM
I know how to make the fuel system work perfect. Replace it!
David T
07-27-2012, 12:09 PM
Starting with the fuel tank is the right way to go. Many of the parts like the baffle can be cleaned and reused. DMCH's kit has what you need to replace. Flushing the two lines going to the motor is a good idea. Expect the plunger in the mixture unit to stick and need to be cleaned. I have had good results cleaning injectors but the seals are usually hard and need to be replaced.
Other systems that do not store well are the brakes and clutch. The fluid corrodes the internal metal parts and then the seals get damaged when they move over the corrosion. They will need to be rebuilt. Tires, battery, and struts do not age well and need to be replaced. The A/C probably is also "dead" and you will need new hoses. Once you get the car running you will then have to fix the original problem that caused the car to be parked in the first place. The cooling system should be rebuilt also replacing the water pump, all seals, hoses, belts and the radiator.
David Teitelbaum
uhhair
07-27-2012, 12:41 PM
Yeah, we know there are lots of things to be replaced but we figure the first step is to simply get the engine running so we can do some basic diagnostics. Once we get the engine running we can test compression and check for good oil pressure and determine if there is any damage to it. As long as the engine checks out OK we will then go ahead and do all the normal maintenance items such as new water pump, belts, hoses, all of that. Then we will move on to replacing the entire brake system and clutch system as well. AC we probably will not do till later in the winter or spring as our first goal is to make the car 100% safe to drive, then touch things like AC and cosmetics. We first just really want to get the engine running so we can deduce what type of shape it is in.
David T
07-27-2012, 02:24 PM
The motor itself seems to store well. Once you get the fuel system working check that there is enough oil in the motor and get it running. Compression tests will not be accurate till you can run it for a while anyway. I would rotate the motor by hand a couple of turns if you have any doubts about the motor just to make sure it isn't stuck. Fill the cooling system with 50/50 water and anti-freeze. Once the motor starts and runs smoothly get the brakes and clutch working and drive the car. When you get some miles on it change the oil and oil filter and the oil in the transmission. Eventually you will want to tune up the motor and adjust the valves, change the air filter, etc.
David Teitelbaum
Kenny_Z
07-27-2012, 05:26 PM
I can't contribute nearly as much as the experts up there did. I only jumped in to say that we need some pictures.
uhhair
07-29-2012, 03:36 PM
So we ripped into the engine and are in the process of compiling a list of items we need. I have attached the picture of the Y pipe that sits below the intake...there are what appears to be 3 sensors inside it. What are these are do we need to replace them? On Houston's part list, I only see two sensors showing up that go into the Y pipe so I'm not sure which sensor is which since they appear to be missing one. Sorry if this is a dumb question...still kinda new at all this. Thanks guys!
uhhair
07-29-2012, 03:36 PM
Also, are there any other sensors that we should or could use replacing? Does any vendor sell a "sensor kit" or anyone have a complete list of all the sensors that the car uses?
David T
07-30-2012, 12:44 PM
I just helped a local owner get his car running after it sat for what he claimed was "only" 4 years. From what we had to do I think it was longer. Had to do everything in the fuel tank. The plunger was stuck in the mixture unit. The brake fluid and the clutch fluid was dark. Got it running and driving. He was very happy till he drove home and lost his brakes!!!!!!
The take-home lesson is that if you wake a sleeping "D", figure on rebuilding the brakes and clutch right away too. Better sooner rather than later. At least I made sure the E Brake worked, he managed to make it home on just that! BTW, his A/C was dead, the small hose had burst. We replaced all the hoses and the accumulator. It was blowing cold when he left.
David Teitelbaum
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