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elfking
02-12-2013, 04:24 PM
Hi all,
This may be a simple answer and I may be just blind.. but Is there any kind of Parts list and/or Kit vendors have when someone goes into the VOD to replace items?

I have been hunting a high idle (when it warms up) for quite some time and thinking its never been done that I might go through and just inspect / maintenance clean out the Valley's etc before I put the car through too much abuse. (Island Turbo install)

I am just trying to make sure that if I do pull the intake up that I might have anyone's recommendations, say the vacuum switch I was thinking of replacing and any hoses I find under it as well.

I did search a bit and can find people recommend replacing / cleaning but no part #'s etc. (I could be blind and have it right in front of me..) or maybe everyone just pieces it together by hand just from the different sites, which is fine too... I just thought someone may have something handy...
Thanks,
-Brian

jawn101
02-12-2013, 05:22 PM
We just did Stephen's valley up in EDH this past weekend!

I don't have a detailed list of parts, but to do a really thorough job you will want:

- Spark plugs
- Distributor cap/rotor
- Plug wires
- Air filter element
- Fuel filter
- Copper washer assortment for fuel hoses
- Water pump
- Pump back gasket
- Thermostat and gasket
- New pump back hoses and hose clamps
- New pump side hoses
- New otterstat and seal
- New thermal vacuum switch
- New valve cover gaskets
- Plenty of new coolant (takes about 2.5-3 gallons)
- Oil filter and oil
- Intake manifold O-rings
- W pipe O-rings and paper gaskets

And while you're in there, it's the best time to:
- Bleed/flush your clutch (so add clutch fluid)
- Replace your hot water valve (inspect it and decide for yourself) and adjacent coolant hoses (again, inspect and decide)
- Replace your vacuum lines if they are suspect (inspect and decide for yourself, silicone vacuum hoses are a godsend)
- Replace your fuel lines if they are suspect (I like the stainless ones)

Good luck :) If you get it all cleaned up, is there any chance you might still make the parade in April?

elfking
02-12-2013, 06:15 PM
Thanks for the quick response...

I have done quite a bit of that list already since getting the car.. I just never tore down below the intake manifold yet...

How about vacuum hose sizes / lengths, did you buy it from a vendor? I used to have a couple random sites I used for silicon / viton hoses for my RX-7's... They are for sure much better to deal with then dried out rubber lines that love to snap!

Unfortunately I am still a no-go for the April Picnic day I hate to say it.. Work has my hands tied on that one...


We just did Stephen's valley up in EDH this past weekend!

I don't have a detailed list of parts, but to do a really thorough job you will want:

- Spark plugs
- Distributor cap/rotor
- Plug wires
- Air filter element
- Fuel filter
- Copper washer assortment for fuel hoses
- Water pump
- Pump back gasket
- Thermostat and gasket
- New pump back hoses and hose clamps
- New pump side hoses
- New otterstat and seal
- New thermal vacuum switch
- New valve cover gaskets
- Plenty of new coolant (takes about 2.5-3 gallons)
- Oil filter and oil
- Intake manifold O-rings
- W pipe O-rings and paper gaskets

And while you're in there, it's the best time to:
- Bleed/flush your clutch (so add clutch fluid)
- Replace your hot water valve (inspect it and decide for yourself) and adjacent coolant hoses (again, inspect and decide)
- Replace your vacuum lines if they are suspect (inspect and decide for yourself, silicone vacuum hoses are a godsend)
- Replace your fuel lines if they are suspect (I like the stainless ones)

Good luck :) If you get it all cleaned up, is there any chance you might still make the parade in April?

jawn101
02-12-2013, 07:00 PM
Thanks for the quick response...

I have done quite a bit of that list already since getting the car.. I just never tore down below the intake manifold yet...

How about vacuum hose sizes / lengths, did you buy it from a vendor? I used to have a couple random sites I used for silicon / viton hoses for my RX-7's... They are for sure much better to deal with then dried out rubber lines that love to snap!

Unfortunately I am still a no-go for the April Picnic day I hate to say it.. Work has my hands tied on that one...

No worries, had to ask :)

I got my silicone vacuum hose kit from a vendor - they are pretty inexpensive and there are a bunch of different diameters needed so it just made life easier.

David T
02-13-2013, 10:45 AM
If you call up one of the venders to order the parts and tell them you have an Island Turbo they will know what to give you. They will recommend you replace the water pump and associated hoses and seals. Because you have the Island Turbo, it has a lot of piping and connections on the air induction side, many potential sources of leakage for false air. That can be the cause of idle quality issues. You also need to check the turbos for leakage and wear. There is some vacuum control plumbing for the turbos. That can leak or maybe not be hooked up correctly. DMCCA and PJ Grady are the "experts" on the Island Turbo set-up so I would contact one of them for your parts. One way to start would be sot use a smoke machine to locate any leaks on the air induction circuit.
David Teitelbaum

elfking
02-13-2013, 01:19 PM
Thanks for the response! I haven't installed the Island Turbo set yet, I was trying to track down the potential leak before hand make the car run 'great' first before tearing it apart for the upgrade... I agree, adding additional piping and lines is always another spot for leaks. I appreciate the vendor recommendation for Turbo experience. I got the Turbo's from Josh at DPI (one of the sets he had up for sale) and everything looks almost new so I can't wait to get it installed...

The smoke machine is a great idea, I think I had tried that before, same thing with the old spray a fluid around listing for idle changes etc. Maybe i'll take another stab at the smoke machine this weekend and see if a fresh look turns up anything.

Thanks!


If you call up one of the venders to order the parts and tell them you have an Island Turbo they will know what to give you. They will recommend you replace the water pump and associated hoses and seals. Because you have the Island Turbo, it has a lot of piping and connections on the air induction side, many potential sources of leakage for false air. That can be the cause of idle quality issues. You also need to check the turbos for leakage and wear. There is some vacuum control plumbing for the turbos. That can leak or maybe not be hooked up correctly. DMCCA and PJ Grady are the "experts" on the Island Turbo set-up so I would contact one of them for your parts. One way to start would be sot use a smoke machine to locate any leaks on the air induction circuit.
David Teitelbaum

David T
02-13-2013, 02:15 PM
Before installing the Island Turbo kit make sure you have every part. Get a parts list and the installation manual. You also need to have the distributor modified. You are correct, you should get the motor running as best as you can BEFORE installing the kit. You might also want to consider getting the 170 MPH speedo and a boost gauge. I had decals made up for my Island Turbo car that went on each side over the rear wheels. If you want a set let me know. BTW, IMHO you should NOT put the Island Turbo kit on an automatic (you didn't say what your car is).

jawn101
02-13-2013, 02:23 PM
Yours will be the first turbo car I've seen, and a lot of the other local guys too - I bet you'd have a lot of eager helping hands if you wanted them. At the very least we need to see it when you're finished :)

elfking
02-13-2013, 02:53 PM
Before installing the Island Turbo kit make sure you have every part. Get a parts list and the installation manual. You also need to have the distributor modified. You are correct, you should get the motor running as best as you can BEFORE installing the kit. You might also want to consider getting the 170 MPH speedo and a boost gauge. I had decals made up for my Island Turbo car that went on each side over the rear wheels. If you want a set let me know. BTW, IMHO you should NOT put the Island Turbo kit on an automatic (you didn't say what your car is).

Ah yes, I have the list (install doc), definitely don't have everything on it. (I knew this buying the kit that I would be figuring out and likely making missing piping / parts) I know I need to pull the distributor and limit the advance as per most boosted applications not liking too much advance / more prone to detonation. The paperwork I have found didn't really detail the mod done to the distributor.. Just really said to send it in to the company and they would send it back. I think still have a boost gauge laying around, I may even still have an electronic boost controller.. I know I have a manual one around still. 170MPH speedo is not a bad idea if I come across a good deal... What do the decal's look like ? I am not usually one for them but hey if I like it who knows.

No worries the car is a Manual, no automatic...

I have the exhaust manifolds / intake piping and turbo's which I find to be most of the head scratching...

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Yours will be the first turbo car I've seen, and a lot of the other local guys too - I bet you'd have a lot of eager helping hands if you wanted them. At the very least we need to see it when you're finished :)

Hah yeah it will be the first one I have seen too! I know its a big project but since my car is not going to be anything close enough for concourse quality I figured I might as well have some fun and enjoy it. Absolutely if I need some help you guys will know for sure.

David T
02-14-2013, 09:58 AM
If you have all of the castings and the turbos you are well along, many of the other parts can be made, modified, or sourced. There is no documentation on the distributor but the person who did the modification is still around and able to still do them. You don't need a boost controller but you do need to hook up the pressure switches correctly, the manual explains that. You also have to do some drilling and tapping on your motor so you need the tools and skills necessary for that work. Have all of the parts, belts, hoses, gaskets, etc down to the last nut and bolt before you start. Check the turbos, they may need to be rebuilt and you should use NEW oil hoses, not the old dirty ones. Once you get the kit installed you must carefully set and verify the boost will not exceed 6 lbs. On the one I did I added a boost gauge and an A/F gauge in pods on the "A" pillar. When done right it really gives the Delorean a LOT more pep. I will see if I can find a picture of the decals.
David Teitelbaum

elfking
02-14-2013, 06:30 PM
Absolutely thanks for the info.. Yes if there's someone I should contact to at least get the info as to what modification I need to do to the distributor or pay them send it in that would be great. Drilling and tapping the pressure side oil line's shouldn't be a problem. The turbo's look great, I didn't find any shaft play or cracks in the manifolds so I think I was going to just throw them on there and see what happens. I did read that the motor doesn't like much more then 6-7PSI, lower end not holding up. I guess I'll also need to find some places to source the hobbs / pressure switches as well.. Boost gauge is a given, A/F I used to have a few times on other cars, I trust a Wideband 02 much more.. so I would be putting that in instead... more money but I just never really trusted an A/F when I was running 15/18 PSI on my RX-7's... EGT Gauges are fun also, but for that low of boost a wideband would be plenty...

Anyways thank you for the tips, I figure I might make a thread of my progress/ install to show what kind of effort it is... I know it will be plenty.. but I am happy I have a good starting point with what I have got...


If you have all of the castings and the turbos you are well along, many of the other parts can be made, modified, or sourced. There is no documentation on the distributor but the person who did the modification is still around and able to still do them. You don't need a boost controller but you do need to hook up the pressure switches correctly, the manual explains that. You also have to do some drilling and tapping on your motor so you need the tools and skills necessary for that work. Have all of the parts, belts, hoses, gaskets, etc down to the last nut and bolt before you start. Check the turbos, they may need to be rebuilt and you should use NEW oil hoses, not the old dirty ones. Once you get the kit installed you must carefully set and verify the boost will not exceed 6 lbs. On the one I did I added a boost gauge and an A/F gauge in pods on the "A" pillar. When done right it really gives the Delorean a LOT more pep. I will see if I can find a picture of the decals.
David Teitelbaum

David T
02-15-2013, 10:26 AM
The person you need to contact for the distributor is John Conway 631*286*0953. That is the # I have for him but I don't know if it is good, I haven't contacted him in a while. Do NOT exceed 6 psi boost or you will blow the lands on the pistons, the stock ones are cast, not forged. I would also switch to synthetic oil because of the heat from the turbos. Probably a good idea to also stay with premium gas for the higher octane. The Island set-up does not have intercoolers so you have to be careful not to detonate if it is very hot out and you are on boost a lot. At that point you have to consider water/methanol injection.
David Teitelbaum