Entertaining lowballers :)

[eldusto84]

Every now and then I peruse the online classifieds to see how Deloreans are selling, and the price range they are selling in. I think most people here are in agreement that the price range for the average Delorean is $20-25K, with some of the mint/refurbished models going into the $30K range, right? My own car was a bit below $20K but I've put a good bit of work into it since then.

Anyways, I came across a Craiglist(!) post in my area from a guy looking for a Delorean, in any condition. I emailed him just to hear what he was looking for and he asked me how much I would sell MY car for. I told him $20-22K and he was FLABBERGASTED. Here was his verbatim response:

"Mint they are worth around $20K with 5000 miles or less Trust me I own 10 of them, The average price for an delorean that needs a little work is around 10-15k."

First off, the guy is obviously delusional. Second, he owns TEN of them?? Does anyone on these boards own more than THREE? Needless to say, I had a good chuckle.

Anyone else on here ever deal with lowballing tire-kickers like this guy?

[Ikeaboy1]

Tell him you own 20, and that his cars are so undervalued that you'd be doing you both a disservice by not offering to buy them for 50% more than his assigned values. Ask where to send the check and car carriers.

[Michael]

This from another thread:


If you are a seller, there are maybe 1,500 road worthy cars left and values can reach 60 or even 70k for a mint condition example.

If you are a buyer, then there were well over 9,000 made, and well over 6,500 left, all very nice low mileage examples were getting as much as 25k at one time, but now in this economy the values are in the mid teens, maybe high teens for a Concours example.

[jackb]

Wow, lol. Just respond: "OK, I totally believe you. Signed, the guy who actually owns a Delorean". Hopefully he picks up the sarcasm. Maybe you coujd ask for a tour? Or even better, offer him 23 grand for one of his mint ones. He shouldn't mind parting with it since he has 9 more and 23 is a grand more than it's worth. What a dumbass.

[Ron]

Ah come on, post a link or phone number so we can all have some fun :deviltail:

[LEVY]

Tell that guy that you are loosing your home and need money, first to show with $10,000.00 take lt.

Then, if he even shows, tell him that you just sold it to someone else but if the buyer backs up, you will contact him. Now, tell him that you would love to see his Delorean collection .

LEVY

[thirdmanj]

Ah come on, post a link or phone number so we can all have some fun :deviltail:

Yeah dude, post that sh-t.

[eldusto84]

All I can say is that if you type in "Delorean" on the Cleveland, OH Craigslist, you will find what you're looking for :popcorn:

[Dangermouse]

Isn't Cliff S in that general area? And Rich W a little further afield. They must own 20 between them.

[Jeff K]

After I got my car road worthy, many knuckleheads would ask me if I want to sell it... they would say.. I'll give you (insert 3-5) grand for it..

[thirdmanj]

After I got my car road worthy, many knuckleheads would ask me if I want to sell it... they would say.. I'll give you (insert 3-5) grand for it..

That just seems so rude.

[ccurzio]

After I got my car road worthy, many knuckleheads would ask me if I want to sell it... they would say.. I'll give you (insert 3-5) grand for it..

What's funny is that after people ask me what I paid for mine and I tell them, I can never predict the response. I've gotten "That's ALL?!" and I've also gotten "THAT MUCH?!"

[Michael]

After I got my car road worthy, many knuckleheads would ask me if I want to sell it... they would say.. I'll give you (insert 3-5) grand for it..

Most people that say crap like that can't afford to fill their car up with gas.

[Jonathan]

What's that old saying... "if you have to ask, you can't afford it."

I mean especially nowadays where all you have to do is go look it up on the internet. Heck, most people could look up the values of our/your car from the phone in their pocket standing right there at the car show or gas station.

To me when someone asks you the "how much did you pay" question, it is more about the guy trying to size you up for some reason. And there never seems to be a reason that makes sense other than a reminder for you to go talk to someone else instead. Unless the person asking is family or something, I'd rather just try to answer him with as bizarre a comeback as possible. Like I won it, or I stole it, or I found it, or I inherited it when my family all died on the failed tourist mission to Mars, or something really ignorant if the guy looks like a good candidate to be put in his place.

There seems to be no reason to need to ask this question and I've heard of others thinking of it being as personal as "how much did you spend on your wife's engagement ring?" We could go on...

[thirdmanj]

What's that old saying... "if you have to ask, you can't afford it."

I mean especially nowadays where all you have to do is go look it up on the internet. Heck, most people could look up the values of our/your car from the phone in their pocket standing right there at the car show or gas station.

To me when someone asks you the "how much did you pay" question, it is more about the guy trying to size you up for some reason. And there never seems to be a reason that makes sense other than a reminder for you to go talk to someone else instead. Unless the person asking is family or something, I'd rather just try to answer him with as bizarre a comeback as possible. Like I won it, or I stole it, or I found it, or I inherited it when my family all died on the failed tourist mission to Mars, or something really ignorant if the guy looks like a good candidate to be put in his place.

There seems to be no reason to need to ask this question and I've heard of others thinking of it being as personal as "how much did you spend on your wife's engagement ring?" We could go on...

Yeeeah. I'm with you on this one. It reminds me of a story I once heard about J.P. Morgan. He was being interviewed by a reporter, and the question came up something like this:

Reporter: "Mr. Morgan, how much does it cost to maintain your yacht? Crew costs, maintenance, fuel, how much sir?"
Morgan: "If you have to ask that question, you have no business owning a yacht, sir"

;) not that DeLoreans are yachts by any stretch of the imagination.

[Jeff K]

What's funny is that after people ask me what I paid for mine and I tell them, I can never predict the response. I've gotten "That's ALL?!" and I've also gotten "THAT MUCH?!"

I think a lot of people are used to seeing the ghetto trashy DeLorean barley road worthy. Thus the silly values stated.

We are the 1% it seems that are really into the car and restoring it.

Probably like a 60's mustangs. I've seen from trash to concourse.

[jawn101]

What's funny is that after people ask me what I paid for mine and I tell them, I can never predict the response. I've gotten "That's ALL?!" and I've also gotten "THAT MUCH?!"

Same here! I never get "oh, that seems reasonable...." I've had quite a few "Dayyyyyum, that's cheap!" and a number of "Are you out of your mind?"

Generally with random strangers asking what it's worth or what I paid, my rule of thumb is to pretend to ponder a little, then say "I'd probably sell it for $60k"

Which is probably a lie anyway. But I might feel differently with 600 $100 bills waving in my face. After all, if I got that much I could buy two really sweet ones :)

Edit: 600, not 6,000. I'd DEFINITELY sell it for $600k. :)

[Ron]

I could argue with you, if wouldn't be a further violation of the forum rules. Which you broke by needlessly going down that road in the first place. Political/religious discussion is strictly verboten. Perhaps you didn't know that.Don't take me wrong -- you are right, but the best thing to do is report the post and send a PM if you want. That way there will be 1 "bad" post (temporarily) instead of 9...


What's funny is that after people ask me what I paid for mine and I tell them, I can never predict the response. I've gotten "That's ALL?!" and I've also gotten "THAT MUCH?!"Same here!
Honestly, I have asked (politely) "How much does a car like this go for" when I had no idea at shows and, again, ya never know if they are going to be offended, or even weirder, why. It rarely bothers me when someone asks, especially at a show...I guess the idea of being able to look it up on the net works both ways, so why not just tell them???

[eagle-co94]

First off, the guy is obviously delusional. Second, he owns TEN of them?? Does anyone on these boards own more than THREE?

Uh, yes, actually I do. Depending on how things go I'll be "down to three" either tonight or tomorrow.

As for the how much question I tell them "less than the cost of a new "Accord/Camry/crap box" based on the audience.

By the way, I'm sure at least a few of you have heard of http://www.hidemyass.com/ right?

[Jonathan]

The JP Morgan yacht one is a good example. This reporter was asking a question he didn't need to ask, and the 1,000 readers of his column don't need to know either. I'm thinking the local millionaire/billionaire in your community doesn't need to scour the newspapers looking for a column of advice on whether he can afford a yacht or not. You can or you can't.

There is one other way to look at this...

What is that other phrase that is almost always said with the "How much did you pay for it?" question?

You know.... the one that goes...... "IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING"

"So.... ah.... if you don't mind me asking.... what'd this set you back?"

Ok there Cousin Eddie... how many questions do people ask with this phrase where they know damn well they shouldn't ask?

"So, if you don't mind me asking, how did you lose your drivers license?"
"So, if you don't mind me asking, why did your wife leave you?"
"So, if you don't mind me asking, how well do they pay over at that company you work for?"

But if you think of all those questions you don't need to ask if they mind...

"What's your dog's name?"
"Do you take cream in your coffee?"
"What's your favorite movie?"

No one walks into a store looking to buy a couch and says to the guy, "So, how much is this one... if you don't mind me asking?" Of course not, because it has a friggin' price tag on it and it's for sale. Sure, if my car has a big FOR SALE sign in the windshield, then ask away. Otherwise, beat it.


Joe?

Who Joe?

You know, once upon a time, we elected a Prime Minister referred to as "Joe Who". True story. Just google it. (....sorry, that's as political as I'll go here)

I wonder if Rothsean needs more than just his wheels balanced... something not quite right there. Give him another shot at things if he comes back later after calming down or getting over whatever it was bothering him. We all snap or say dumb stuff at times, and maybe we just don't know what is going on behind the scenes for him. Just my two cents if you felt like giving him that opportunity.

[DeLorean03]

There are times I used to think it was rude when people asked me what I paid for my DeLorean. Then again, I have the luxury (or curse) of owning my car on the 10 year mark this November, so when people ask me, I give them the "Well, way back when 10 years ago....." approach.

Honestly, to a certain degree, I don't think it is too rude. You never know, some people may be asking to size up in their mind "Hey, I could afford that....maybe I could get one of these too....". I know I do that with purchases all the time.

[Nicholas R]

To me there is a huge difference between:

"What do these go for?"

and

"What did you pay for this?"

"What do these go for?" Implies a genuine interest in the value of DeLoreans at present, and shows them thinking, "hmmm maybe I could find one too, wouldn't that be cool!" I always respond with estimated value of my car, project car values, concours values, etc.

"What did YOU pay for this?" is extremely personal. It always makes me feel like the person is sizing me up or judging me. Like they're trying to figure out if I wasted my money; if they too could afford to buy MY car; make assumptions about my life based on my financial decisions, etc. In addition, (and this is what probably pisses me off the most), it shows that they assume I just bought the car in the shape it's currently in. Like last week I picked it up at the dealership. Like many others, my story is that the car was bought over 10 years ago on 4 flat tires after sitting for over a decade. Obviously the price I paid then is totally irrelevant. Plus, I'm not going to lie, after all the f#@$ing work I've put into this damn car, I get a little insulted when people assume I just bought it that way. I usually respond with "well in this condition they usually go for around $XX,XXX" but I still know that they assume I just bought it this way. It especially bothers me now. I had my 1981 DeLorean with a (fairly) modern Corvette engine on display at the Cavalcade of Customs Carshow this January at the Cincinnati Convention Center, and STILL had several ask what I paid. WTF? Are you kidding? (first off, what happened to car show etiquette??) but mainly, do you really think I just bought it this way?? This is the Cavalcade of Customs; almost everyone does their own work here; that's kind of the point!

In some cases I'm sure I'm over-thinking/overreacting but it still bugs me every time.

[eagle-co94]

No Nick I think you're spot on. In fact your response to the question is probably about exactly what I would say.

[Ron]

Well said Nick.

[justlooking]

Well said Nick.

They probably want to know how you bought it at age 12/13. Am i close?

[Kenny_Z]

I usually get "where did you find it?" and then the "what did it cost?" questions. I don't mind telling other DeLorean owners and I've even discussed it with other classic car owners. I'm expecting the questions to switch from "how much was it?" to "what did it cost to strip the paint?" once I start taking her to shows again.

I don't mind the question from stary eyed people that obviously want one of their own. I do mind the question from people that walk up to just complain about the car or give me their omnipotent knowledge of everything DMC.

[Ron]

They probably want to know how you bought it at age 12/13. Am i close?
I'm not sure what you are asking???

[Doogie]

Well said Nick.

There is a guy around me driving around in a very nicely restored and slightly modded older Range Rover. Beautiful ride. I would never even think to ask how much he paid. Mainly because across the rop of the rear door stenciled very nicely he has written "Built, not Bought"

Sums it up right there for me.

Doogie

[D Knight]

I live up here too. He's not going to get a running one that cheap. I do know where there are 2 in the area that have been sitting though.

[refugeefromcalif]

To me there is a huge difference between:
"What do these go for?"
and
"What did you pay for this?"

"What do these go for?" Implies a genuine interest in the value of DeLoreans at present, and shows them thinking, "hmmm maybe I could find one too, wouldn't that be cool!"

"What did YOU pay for this?" is extremely personal. It always makes me feel like the person is sizing me up or judging me.
In some cases I'm sure I'm over-thinking/overreacting but it still bugs me every time.

Well stated Nick!

When I get asked the, "What do these go for Question?" I tell them that a Decent running car in Decent shape would be Roughly in the $18k- $25k range. (Based upon what I've read around here, and seen sell).
When I get asked the, "What did You pay?" I tell them the Same thing.
For those that Persist in "What I paid", I tell them to research into what condition DeLorean They want to buy. (I haven't even told my kids what I paid for my D).


I usually get "where did you find it?" and then the "what did it cost?" questions.

That's Exactly the order of the questions I get, (when people ask them both).

Just adding something else I've noticed. (On average)...
It seems to be the 25 and below crowd that want to know what I paid for mine.
It's the 30 and above folks that want to know the average cost of buying one.

George

[Shep]

To me there is a huge difference between:

"What do these go for?"

and

"What did you pay for this?"For what it's worth, if I were a spectator, I would probably ask how much it's worth, then proceed to ask how much you paid for the corvette engine installation. Not under the assumption that you had some shop do it, but rather a genuine curiosity of what something like that would cost to do, whether outsourced or done yourself. It's an interesting tidbit of information. I don't know how else to word that question other than "How much did you pay for this?" -- perhaps others have the same intent? Although answering "It cost $X and thousands of man-hours to pull off" would sum up quite nicely that you did all the work yourself, and anyone that assumed you did outsource it would be put in their place tactfully.

That being said, if someone's being a douchebag and dissing your car (ANY car), and then they ask how much you paid for it, I would use some line of BS as a witty comeback rather than tell the honest price. I don't entertain hecklers. Or I'd just throw them off their game by saying "make me an offer", and then snickering at whatever their response is as if they're a dipshit, which they probably are.

[Michael]

I get asked that all the time. I don't read too much into it. I really don't think there are any hidden agendas to size me up based on what I pay for a car, not do I think they are intending to be rude, (although it's never good taste to ask something like that...but if I were to be honest, I wanted to ask that very question many times in the past). A person can read a lot of the nature of the question by the tone in which it is asked, I have never read anything other than innocent curiosity in the questions asked of me. Most of the time I usually respond with a chuckle "It was more than I want to admit", (in actuality it was less than I want to admit) :tongue_stick: If I sense genuine curiosity, I am honest and tell them that they sell anywhere from 5k to 65k....but I still keep quiet about what I paid for mine....I may want to sell it in the future.

[DashEight]

When people ask the question of how much about any car I answer: "If I were to buy a similar one now, I'd be happy to find one in the (insert dollar range here)." Then follow up by quickly saying that " I have no idea how soft/firm the market is." Then when they ask if id sell mine. Just smile and say "Nope."

[Jonathan]

Another vote from me for the "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" idea.

No one seems to ask how much stuff is that is "beneath" their level. All the questions seem to be asked by the guy looking up.

The guy who owns a three bedroom home doesn't ask his buddy what his basement apartment rent is, but the renter might ask his friend what his house cost.

Or the guy with a new 5-series Bimmer doesn't ask a coworker what his Civic set him back, but the Honda guy might ask what the Bimmer cost... or my favorite would be if he asked "why didn't you get the M5?"

I remember years ago I bought a Pontiac Grand Prix GT. I was at some friend's place and some Joe they knew asks me why didn't I get the GTP? Yet this guy couldn't afford anything more than the 10-speed he rode here.

To me, it's like the Saving Private Ryan line where Tom Hanks' character says to Tom Sizemore's character about "gripes always go up." These assinine questions always go up too, never down.

[DeLorean03]

Meh, if I want to get creative or fire something "politely rude" back, I say something like "Well, my degree in electrical engineering helped me afford it...."

And I'm not lying because my degree may not have helped me buy the car itself, but it does give me the ability to make a good enough living to continue to restore the car and make it better.

Or I tell them "Well, an average running DeLorean is about $25k, so we can start there and work on up..."

Answering this question is tricky, because if you shoot off some big number, they'll think you're a total idiot when they go on eBay and see them selling for $12k-$18k. Sometimes, it's not about how you can shut someone down and put them in your place - sometimes - it's about making sure you don't look like an idiot.

There's an old saying: "Don't argue with an idiot, because sometimes people watching won't be able to tell who is the idiot...."

There's a lot of truth in that.

[Nicholas R]

Meh, if I want to get creative or fire something "politely rude" back, I say something like "Well, my degree in electrical engineering helped me afford it...."

And I'm not lying because my degree may not have helped me buy the car itself, but it does give me the ability to make a good enough living to continue to restore the car and make it better.

Or I tell them "Well, an average running DeLorean is about $25k, so we can start there and work on up..."

Answering this question is tricky, because if you shoot off some big number, they'll think you're a total idiot when they go on eBay and see them selling for $12k-$18k. Sometimes, it's not about how you can shut someone down and put them in your place - sometimes - it's about making sure you don't look like an idiot.

There's an old saying: "Don't argue with an idiot, because sometimes people watching won't be able to tell who is the idiot...."

There's a lot of truth in that.

Or that they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience :D

Every now and then when someone is really rude, I'll just say some ridiculous stuff back.

"Wow man, what did you pay for this?"
"Nothing; John DeLorean gave me the car for helping him build a deck"

I've used that one twice now and the reactions are such a mix of confusion, disbelief, skepticism, curiosity, and it usually shuts them up. The key is to just really sell it. "Yup, he was a family friend. He had so many extra cars left over that he was looking for any reason to give them away."

I also enjoy telling people that the LS1 is stock and that John DeLorean actually designed it. That's why it was used in the 2004 GTO. The know it all's always reassure me that they already knew that.

But I digress. These are simply how I cope with the frustration of people's rudeness, lol

[Jonathan]

Meh, if I want to get creative or fire something "politely rude" back, I say something like "Well, my degree in electrical engineering helped me afford it...."

And I'm not lying because my degree may not have helped me buy the car itself, but it does give me the ability to make a good enough living to continue to restore the car and make it better.

Or I tell them "Well, an average running DeLorean is about $25k, so we can start there and work on up..."

Answering this question is tricky, because if you shoot off some big number, they'll think you're a total idiot when they go on eBay and see them selling for $12k-$18k. Sometimes, it's not about how you can shut someone down and put them in your place - sometimes - it's about making sure you don't look like an idiot.

There's an old saying: "Don't argue with an idiot, because sometimes people watching won't be able to tell who is the idiot...."

There's a lot of truth in that.

This might be why we answer this question differently. I stopped caring what this sort of tool thinks of me a long time ago.

I like Nick's idea about the deck. The more ridiculous the better. The know-it-alls don't realize the more aggresively they keep coming with their BS, the more they are fueling the comeback to put them in their spot in front of their buddies/girlfriend.

[Ron]

Another vote from me for the "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" idea.

No one seems to ask how much stuff is that is "beneath" their level. All the questions seem to be asked by the guy looking up.

The guy who owns a three bedroom home doesn't ask his buddy what his basement apartment rent is, but the renter might ask his friend what his house cost.

Or the guy with a new 5-series Bimmer doesn't ask a coworker what his Civic set him back, but the Honda guy might ask what the Bimmer cost... or my favorite would be if he asked "why didn't you get the M5?"

I remember years ago I bought a Pontiac Grand Prix GT. I was at some friend's place and some Joe they knew asks me why didn't I get the GTP? Yet this guy couldn't afford anything more than the 10-speed he rode here.

To me, it's like the Saving Private Ryan line where Tom Hanks' character says to Tom Sizemore's character about "gripes always go up." These assinine questions always go up too, never down.
I must say I totally disagree with this, particularly the bolded portion -- Different world I guess?

[Jonathan]

I must say I totally disagree with this, particularly the bolded portion -- Different world I guess?

No problem, Ron. That's the beauty of it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion or how they see things.

[DeLorean03]

I do like the idea about building a deck for John and coming up with wild comments like that. That is pretty funny :D.

I dunno, I guess it doesn't bother me anymore when people ask how much I paid for mine. I guess another comment I use is "Well, back in 2003 when it was a restoration project...." - that way it's not like I bought a turn-key car for $10k. When I say "as a restoration project...", that automatically implies that I've put some solid work into the vehicle, and anyone who has worked on cars for years know that restorations are NOT cheap.

[Ron]

No problem, Ron. That's the beauty of it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion or how they see things.
Agreed!:)

[Spittybug]

When I'm asked, I give the canned "...$25K or so for a good, reliable car..." answer. Then I proceed to tell them about all the mods and improvements I've made and that if he'd give me ~$40K right now it's his.

I found that if you turn their idle (rude?) curiosity into making it sound like you're accepting an offer they haven't made, it quiets them down really quickly.

[Michael]

Here you go, Take this, photoshop your vin in place, print and put in your window, and enjoy the silence.

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6608&d=1320631183

[DeLorean03]

Yet another response I give to "What did you pay for it?"

I ask them "Before or after I restored it?"

Then I quote them what I paid, and then I tell them what I put into it, and I quickly state: "That's with no shop doing the work, that is me buying the parts and doing my own work."

Interesting views on how we all feel about people asking this question. I do remember a time I thought it was greatly offensive, and I can see why people would feel that way. I definitely wouldn't go up to someone who owns a 1994 Lamborghini Diablo or a 1988 Ferrari Testarossa and start asking what they paid.

I guess I've become so used to it that it doesn't bother me now. I recognize some people are just curious and "speak before they think." It happens, no biggie.

Now people that have a crowd and ask me "Is this really your car? Like, YOURS....", I answer that with "Yeah, I know I look young, and with a car like this, guess that just means I'm successful."

[Jonathan]

Now people that have a crowd and ask me "Is this really your car? Like, YOURS....", I answer that with "Yeah, I know I look young, and with a car like this, guess that just means I'm successful."

Haha, right on. This same Grand Prix I had, which don't get me wrong, it was nice, but it was absolutely nothing special, nor very expensive... and two other comments I got like the one you mentioned here were:

"Nice car man, what does your Dad do?"

and

"Wow, nice car, you must be selling a lot of drugs."

Yikes, thanks for coming out. I guess some people haven't yet discovered this concept of getting a job and working hard and saving for the things you want in life. Drugs. Wow. No, engineering degree actually, but have a nice day anyway :) LOL

[DeLorean03]

I guess some people haven't yet discovered this concept of getting a job and working hard and saving for the things you want in life. Drugs. Wow. No, engineering degree actually, but have a nice day anyway :) LOL

Absolutely. Dead on - couldn't have said that better!

[Shep]

I must say I totally disagree with this, particularly the bolded portion -- Different world I guess?Seems pretty accurate where I live, unless in a condescending manner (e.g. "How much did that Pinto cost, two beers?") or out of disinterested politeness, usually not caring enough to pay attention to whatever number you shoot out. Maybe this is a Northerner/Southerner cultural difference?


Now people that have a crowd and ask me "Is this really your car? Like, YOURS....", I answer that with "Yeah, I know I look young, and with a car like this, guess that just means I'm successful."I've been experiencing this one myself. Anyone who doesn't personally know me assumes I have nothing to do with it. When I had my first crowd gather around my D, everyone kept walking up to my Dad and telling him what an awesome car it was, asking him all kinds of questions, and he kept having to tell them it was my car. The average response seemed to be "Oh, I didn't know you were old enough to drive!" Evidently I've got a fountain of youth in my gene pool. It'll come in handy when I'm in the mood to get some candid comments from one spectator to another, but when any of them followed up with "How much did you pay for it?", I gave them the original purchase price pre-restoration, which seemed to be what they were after. They weren't interested in how much it's currently worth, but rather how much I obtained it for. Seems to be a common trend, even for those that do know me.

[eagle-co94]

Here you go, Take this, photoshop your vin in place, print and put in your window, and enjoy the silence.

http://dmctalk.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6608&d=1320631183

Got a high-res copy of that?

[DMCVegas]

Ah come on, post a link or phone number so we can all have some fun :deviltail:

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo133/NickBurns2006/random%20forum/threadbackontrack.jpg

Getting back to trolling & idiots who are NOT on this board....

Here's the Craigslist ad in case anyone wants to troll numbnuts. (http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/3642992142.html)

[Ron]

Seems pretty accurate where I live, unless in a condescending manner (e.g. "How much did that Pinto cost, two beers?") or out of disinterested politeness, usually not caring enough to pay attention to whatever number you shoot out. Maybe this is a Northerner/Southerner cultural difference?
LOL, it is not nice to troll the Admin-Mod team members :devil: J/K

A bit of that. But I should say I have lived long term in both, and with friends in northern Ontario (More like the people in GA and TN to me in that respect). But I replied mainly because it seemed to come across as too absolute ("No one" , "All") when I have asked prices when I was simply curious and/or when I was interested in purchasing the/similar car being fortunate enough to be able to afford it...disproof by experience and example for lack of better words while trying to be brief lol. NOT to say J and I are not on the same page now...

[Shep]

I think rothsean has made good on his threat to simply come back with another username.Yeah, but didn't he say no one would ever know? I mean, c'mon, even I knew when I saw the email notification to this topic, before I came here and saw which post was being referenced (this post (http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?6606-Entertaining-lowballers-)&p=95809&viewfull=1#post95809) by the way), and his use of offensive terms right off the bat. Then you add in the fact that he registered today and has one post, does it get any more obvious? I'm genuinely curious if the information is accurate of someone else though. Any takers on finding out if VIN 4221 is in the Las Vegas DeLorean Group, Pacific Northwest DeLorean Club, and DOI groups, with a guy based out of "Tejas"? Somehow I doubt Texas being considered Las Vegas and Pacific Northwest territory.


LOL, it is not nice to troll the Admin-Mod team members :devil: J/K

A bit of that. But I should say I have lived long term in both, and with friends in northern Ontario (More like the people in GA and TN to me in that respect). But I replied mainly because it seemed to come across as too absolute ("No one" , "All") when I have asked prices when I was simply curious and/or when I was interested in purchasing the/similar car being fortunate enough to be able to afford it...disproof by experience and example for lack of better words while trying to be brief lol. NOT to say J and I are not on the same page now...I knew I was walking a fine line there, so I added "cultural" hoping to steer clear of that :) Individuals I have talked to who come up here from what they call the "Deep South" talk about how different things are, so I thought it might be attributed to that.

I think he meant though for example daily driving a Maserati and asking how much a 2001 Civic (my daily driver) costs. I honestly don't think that has ever happened unless one or both participants in the conversation are considered legally insane. It's one thing to own a new Dodge Viper and ask how much a Ford Focus costs, but there comes a point where people simply stop caring because it's way below what they're interested in. That's what I thought he was referring to.

[thirdmanj]

Yeah, but didn't he say no one would ever know? I mean, c'mon, even I knew when I saw the email notification to this topic, before I came here and saw which post was being referenced (this post (http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?6606-Entertaining-lowballers-)&p=95809&viewfull=1#post95809) by the way), and his use of offensive terms right off the bat. Then you add in the fact that he registered today and has one post, does it get any more obvious? I'm genuinely curious if the information is accurate of someone else though. Any takers on finding out if VIN 4221 is in the Las Vegas DeLorean Group, Pacific Northwest DeLorean Club, and DOI groups, with a guy based out of "Tejas"? Somehow I doubt Texas being considered Las Vegas and Pacific Northwest territory...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yau7Z3vMBo0

[Ron]

I think he meant though for example daily driving a Maserati and asking how much a 2001 Civic (my daily driver) costs.
I wonder what Jay Leno was driving the day he purchased his DeLorean...

[thirdmanj]

I wonder what Jay Leno was driving the day he purchased his DeLorean...

To my knowledge, he never bought one.

[Ron]

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Shame on you James!

That's right...he only "asked" about one (and supposedly hated it (http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?3518-Forbes-article-Why-Jay-Leno-hates-Deloreans)).

But back to the point- Lou Gosset, Ben Moody, Jimmy Osmond, Kenny Rogers, Patric Swayze and of course Johnny Carson. (And good ole Will...but I have to agree he is an idiot ;-)


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30 Off topic posts in this thread alone. We can do better than that Guys!

[eldusto84]

Boy, what happened to this thread? And furthermore, what happened to this board in general? I see lots of flaming and insults and childish name-calling that was not present when I joined around a year ago. If I wanted to deal with trolls, I'd go on 4Chan or Reddit and observe them in their natural habitat. But a community forum for Delorean owners and enthusiasts is not the place for this.

Let's keep it clean, friendly, and informative!

[thirdmanj]

Boy, what happened to this thread? And furthermore, what happened to this board in general? I see lots of flaming and insults and childish name-calling that was not present when I joined around a year ago. If I wanted to deal with trolls, I'd go on 4Chan or Reddit and observe them in their natural habitat. But a community forum for Delorean owners and enthusiasts is not the place for this.

Let's keep it clean, friendly, and informative!

I think all the posts you refer to have been deleted. Also, users "rothsean" and "SEBD" have been banned. Not to worry dude. It is what it is.

[valdez]

Aren't you the same guys who have the opinion other sellers think they are sitting on a gold mine?

Funny how it gets flipped like that when talking about YOUR car vs some random seller's car.

[thirdmanj]

Aren't you the same guys who have the opinion other sellers think they are sitting on a gold mine?

Funny how it gets flipped like that when talking about YOUR car vs some random seller's car.

No, it's not really. We're realistic with our values. Sellers thinking they're sitting on a "gold mine", when in reality it's a DeLorean that's sat for 10+ years, and barely worth 8-9k...if that. No ones being hypocritical. There is a known running market value for these cars. Sellers that think they're sitting on "barn find Deusenbergs" DeLoreans are just plain deluded.

[Shep]

Aren't you the same guys who have the opinion other sellers think they are sitting on a gold mine?

Funny how it gets flipped like that when talking about YOUR car vs some random seller's car.There's a difference between actual market value and perceived value. That "random seller's car" that thinks they're sitting on a gold mine only think their DeLorean is worth $50,000, when the actual market value is more like $10,000 or even less. Most of the regulars on the forum who've put a price on their DeLorean do so accurately, as we actually know our cars inside and out, the history, how rare our production differences are, etc., whereas that "random seller" more often than not only does basic research and gives it the highest price he finds and actually expects someone to buy it for that much. You're making an invalid connection here.

[DeLorean03]

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[Ron]

Getting back to trolling & idiots who are NOT on this board....

Here's the Craigslist ad in case anyone wants to troll numbnuts. (http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/3642992142.html)
Well I got bored...

Google this guys phone number for a laugh....

[jawn101]

Well I got bored...

Google this guys phone number for a laugh....

That's a niiiiiiiice van.

[Delorean Industries]

Well I got bored...

Google this guys phone number for a laugh....

That's lt. Dans number. A local guy that buys crap Deloreans and sells to unsuspecting victims.

[jawn101]

That's lt. Dans number. A local guy that buys crap Deloreans and sells to unsuspecting victims.

Also, wearable heating pads.....

[Shep]

Well I got bored...

Google this guys phone number for a laugh....Other than the "WearAPad" thing, I came across this (http://cleveland.craigslist.org/dmg/3631568020.html):

Physical Therapist or Chiropractor Needed (Chagrin Falls)
Im 33 and I have a bite problem and tmj I am currently in a mouth splint therapy to correct this. My neck and shoulder are out of wack and I am dizzy until I rub my neck then it goes a way. If you or anyone you know is familar with this and is a chiropractor or physical therapist please contact me. . If you can come to my house that would be good also.
[...]
I will pay cash each visit That last line is a little peculiar, but moving on, he was also selling a kid's bike, a Honda XR 80, and an Xbox with 9 games and 3 controllers.

But seriously, there's even a YouTube video on the heated diaper! :hysterical:

[eldusto84]

That's lt. Dans number. A local guy that buys crap Deloreans and sells to unsuspecting victims.

Josh, you've heard of this guy? Does he even respect the cars or is he just some delusional huckster?

[Delorean Industries]

Josh, you've heard of this guy? Does he even respect the cars or is he just some delusional huckster?

The dealings I have seen were not the best. I would advise against buying/selling cars with this person.