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rothsean
06-02-2013, 12:01 AM
I have seen this in advertisements for classic cars...

Michael
06-02-2013, 01:05 AM
Short answer, that all the major components that are on it now were on/in it the day it was born. On most cars, engines were stamped with numbers or plates that denoted or matches the car's vin; as well as fenders, frames, etc. The vin also denotes option packages that the car originally came with such as engine, driveline, and various accessories so anyone who knows how to decipher the vin can tell if the car is at least original equipment and unmodified.

There is no or has there ever been a "numbers matching" Delorean

delornut
06-02-2013, 11:29 AM
Short answer, that all the major components that are on it now were on/in it the day it was born. On most cars, engines were stamped with numbers or plates that denoted or matches the car's vin; as well as fenders, frames, etc. The vin also denotes option packages that the car originally came with such as engine, driveline, and various accessories so anyone who knows how to decipher the vin can tell if the car is at least original equipment and unmodified.

There is no or has there ever been a "numbers matching" Delorean

There is some degree of truth as production records weren't very good for the DeLorean but the original window stickers did have both the vehicle vin number and the engine serial number printed on them. I don't think matching numbers play much of a role with the DeLorean and it's history of being rebuilt in the quality assurance centers.

Bruce Benson

David T
06-02-2013, 08:30 PM
There is some degree of truth as production records weren't very good for the DeLorean but the original window stickers did have both the vehicle vin number and the engine serial number printed on them. I don't think matching numbers play much of a role with the DeLorean and it's history of being rebuilt in the quality assurance centers.

Bruce Benson

A lot depends on the Marque of the car and the era. Some have a lot more documentation than others with many parts date coded, partial vins on the engine and transmission, etc. In the world of Deloreans the only numbers that have to match are the 2 vin plates and the Title. Now if you are getting into concours judging certain options and parts are correct for certain vin ranges. A couple of examples include:
The hood
the radio antennae
tailpipes
Numbers matching is a sales kind of catch phrase. Like "mint condition", full restoration, or low mileage. It has no universal meaning.
David Teitelbaum

Jimmyvonviggle
06-02-2013, 08:41 PM
Actually numbers matching is a very important factor for muscle cars. And a matching numbers car will greatly effect it's collector value.

For example every car has a VIN, and people collecting certain cars can decipher the VIN and it will tell you things like what engine it was born with, what trim level etc. A car that has its original engine is many times more valuable than one that was replaced. Of course there are always exceptions but in the collector car world this is what they do.

Dangermouse
06-02-2013, 09:53 PM
Did I read somewhere that a matching number car doesn't necessarily have to have the actual engine it was "born" with, just a similarly specified engine from the same batch of engines?

Kenny_Z
06-02-2013, 11:11 PM
Depends on the car. You don't want a GT500 with just any 289, it has to be a serial from a HIPO 289. If you're just doing a normal Mustang restoration then a period correct block will get you close enough for most people.