DeLoreans sold on eBay: Years of data tracked.

[Ozzie]

I may be late in posting, but I have not stopped collecting the data, so… here it is:
57(!) months of eBay sales of DeLoreans (http://delorean2109.blogspot.com/2011/07/2011-q2-update-of-delorean-dmc-12-sales.html).


My last updated was at the end of 2010, so this update represents the first six months of the year. The results are always interesting to dissect and speculate, here is what I see in the data.

Looking at the trend line:
The upward (increasing selling price) trend that was noticed in Q3 and Q4 remained for the first half of the year. The dip in the trend parallels the global state of the economy, where recession ruled, for nearly a year from May 2009 to May 2010. It appears that as far as DeLoreans go, selling prices continue to pick up, albeit, at a slow pace.

Looking at the table:
While the trend in prices has a gone up, the table shows though that the amount of cars sold is low compared to the previous year. At the half of 2011 there were less cars sold than in 2010. Perhaps this means that there were more bargain hunters OR more were tempted by the lower selling price of DeLoreans in 2010. In the many, many months I have tracked these sales, 2011 Q1 and Q2 definitely showed the least amount of cars sold in a month than previously seen.

Checking my previous updates, at the last update I wrote:
“If you wanted to generalize based on this data, the average Delorean on eBay in 2007 sold for $18K, in 2008: $17K, in 2009: $15K, and in 2010: $16K …will we see the average sale back up to $17K in 2011?”
Well, it looks like we may be headed that way. In 2011 you can see that the trend of the average car sold is actually 5% over the previous year. So far this year cars sold averaged nearly $17K, which is almost back to 2008 levels. Even the lowest purchased cars (must be running cars to make this data) jumped up to 10% from 2010, again paralleling close to 2008 levels.

By States, the most cars sold were in Florida (6), followed by California (4).
The lowest Vin sold was 725, highest was 16874.
Lowest miles: 10K, highest: $95K (which coincidently was Vin 725).

[Delorean02378]

Wow, almost 5 years of data, that's impressive. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the average price will increase closer to $18k this year. It's been crazy what these things have been bringing lately.

Your findings are right on regarding the number of Deloreans that have been available this year, not only on Ebay but there are fewer on Craigslist as well. Sounds like people are hanging on to the ones they have.

It will be interesting to see the data for the remainder of 2011.

Thanks for tracking the sales.

[Ashyukun]

Quite interesting... I can almost pinpoint where 16655 is on the charts. And should probably note that it actually should be the lowest one from eBay that year given the top two bidders backed out and I got it for about $2k less than the 'winning' bid.

Actually, I halfway wonder whether it's actually IN the data as the seller may well have just listed it as a no-sell to avoid paying the eBay fees...

[Ozzie]

Actually, I halfway wonder whether it's actually IN the data as the seller may well have just listed it as a no-sell to avoid paying the eBay fees...

I looked it up.
Vin: 16655
Sold: 2/22/09
Selling Price: $9,100
Title: "RARE 1983 DELOREAN DMC-12///////////////WITH NO RESERVE"
Description: "THE CAR HAS SAT FOR SOME TIME ,DUE TO THE CLUTCH GOING OUT OF IT. SO, IT WILL NOT START. .. NOT TITLE"

I have the data above because it was a sold DeLorean on eBay, BUT, I do not track it in the stats that I publish because my data is only for running cars. Per the description offered by the seller ("will not start"), I did not put this sale into the summaries.

[jmrydholm]

Mine was from ebay, #10715, got it for $9500

[Ashyukun]

I looked it up.
Vin: 16655
I have the data above because it was a sold DeLorean on eBay, BUT, I do not track it in the stats that I publish because my data is only for running cars. Per the description offered by the seller ("will not start"), I did not put this sale into the summaries.

Ah, OK. Yup, was most definitely not running, though it is certainly now (or would be if I didn't have it apart to do upgrades... :wrenchin: ).

[dvonk]

heeeere Monchy Monchy Monchy... :biggrin:

[Ozzie]

2011 EOY Update (http://delorean2109.blogspot.com/2012/01/deloreans-sold-on-ebay-2011-eoy-update.html)

Happy New Year! I have updated my blog (http://delorean2109.blogspot.com/2012/01/deloreans-sold-on-ebay-2011-eoy-update.html) with my tabulation and summary of eBay sales of DeLoreans, for the past 62(!) months, or just over 5 years. The results are always interesting to dissect and speculate, here is what I see in the data.

As the chart shows, in 2011, we saw the largest annual trend rise that has been recorded in the last five years. Notably Q3 and Q4 had a good share of $20K+ cars sold.

From my perspective in the States, there are some signs the economy is moving ahead. The signs are sporadic, but they are there in that while there isn't the wild amount of cash being thrown around, it is being put out when the right product comes along (examples: pricey iPhones, Hyundai and Ford cars). Apparently this may apply DeLoreans as well, based on the ebay selling price trends in 2011.

The Table shows the tabulated description of this upswing, where with respect to the previous year, the selling price:

Average increased by 10%, which is also the second consecutive year of positive increase double digits this year.
Lowest sold, as I track them these are non project/drivable cars, and you can see that on eBay the lowest priced running cars have gone up, nearing $10K now.
Highest sold are typically the outliers, but you'll note that one car sold for just a wee bit higher than last year’s high seller, and the histogram shows that there were two $30K+ cars sold.
Range/SD: The difference in the spread between the lowest and highest sold also increased in 2011.
Skew: The histogram illustrates the selling prices are clustered around mid to high teens.



Some final breakdown of 2011 sales:

By States sold in
California ( 9 )
Florida ( 8 )
Ohio ( 6 )

By Vin#
Lowest: 719
Highest: 16874

By Miles
Lowest: 1,700
Highest: 111,000

By year
1981:55
1982: 5
1983: 9

Summary
So that's the 2011 numbers and analysis, as I always say this is not the definitive description of how DeLoreans sell in general, but it sure is interesting to see the trends on eBay.

Wishing everyone a safe, healthy, happy, and prosperous 2012.

[Lenny]

Thanks for the info. I looked at your blog and really like the LED entry. They were looking for a speaker at DCS in Disney World on "How to LED your Delorean" I think you should see if you could do a session and show off your car. I'd love to attend.

[Ozzie]

Thanks for the info. I looked at your blog and really like the LED entry. They were looking for a speaker at DCS in Disney World on "How to LED your Delorean" I think you should see if you could do a session and show off your car. I'd love to attend.

Thanks, back, Lenny.
Yeah, I am the person scheduled to do a presentation on LEDs (in general and for our cars) at DCS 2012. Hope to meet you there.

[ccurzio]

my blog

Well looky what we have here...

Found your site a while back through some research via google, and I wanted to tell you that your writings have been of an immense help to me. Thanks for your site!

[Ozzie]

Well looky what we have here...

Found your site a while back through some research via google, and I wanted to tell you that your writings have been of an immense help to me. Thanks for your site!

Cool. Glad you found it useful, appreciate the feedback.

...and back to topic, since it was on the previous page: 2011 Summary of DeLorean eBay Sales (http://delorean2109.blogspot.com/2012/01/deloreans-sold-on-ebay-2011-eoy-update.html)

[eagle-co94]

Ozzie, do you have criteria for which DeLoreans you include data for and which ones you don't? I ask because I don't see the data for 891 included (or I'm just reading it wrong). Do you have any info on 891? If not, LMK and I can provide it.

[Ozzie]

Ozzie, do you have criteria for which DeLoreans you include data for and which ones you don't? I ask because I don't see the data for 891 included (or I'm just reading it wrong). Do you have any info on 891? If not, LMK and I can provide it.

Yup, the only criteria I use is that will exclude a sale from the data, is a "Project Car", which by that I mean a car that lists as "not running", or appears to require an extensive amount of restoration (crashed, gutted interior, "...but engine starts").

Even though I don't tabulate them in the summaries posted, I mostly do record the "Project Car" transactions. In the case of 891, I show sales history for that as:

Transaction #: 300312261807
Date: 05/09/2009
Listing Title: "wrecked 1981 de lorean DMC"
Miles: 32,000 miles

Was there another transaction for it, if so, any details you can provide would be appreciated. Thanks.

[ccurzio]

For what it's worth, my DMC was probably included in your stats since I bought it on eBay. :)

[Ozzie]

For what it's worth, my DMC was probably included in your stats since I bought it on eBay. :)

Sure is, found it.
Date: 10/07/11
Listed as: "1981 DeLorean 5 Speed Excellent Condition"

[eagle-co94]

Nope, that's the transaction that I picked it up in. My other car would fall into that same category as well. Between the two I hope to put together a running car...once I'm back home in FL. Maybe I can drive it to DCS in Orlando.

[Ozzie]

Nope, that's the transaction that I picked it up in. My other car would fall into that same category as well. Between the two I hope to put together a running car...once I'm back home in FL. Maybe I can drive it to DCS in Orlando.

OK, then that's why I don't show it in the data.

That'd be a cool story if you put together two non working cars into one, and drove it to DCS 2012....or just even to drive it around actually.

[eagle-co94]

Home is in Hollywood, so you will get to see some of it happening. I plan to bring it to Tower Shops once it's running.:thumbup:

[whocruiser]

Home is in Hollywood, so you will get to see some of it happening. I plan to bring it to Tower Shops once it's running.:thumbup:

I see you were the winning bidder last night on the left & right door b-pillar trims and engine grille retention strips I had on e-bay. Do I understand correctly that the actual car they are destined for is at home in Hollywood and not with you in Germany? If so, since I'm local here in South Florida would you prefer that I just set them aside for you to pickup in person rather than ship them to your registered e-bay address in Germany? Can avoid perhaps $75 or so of international shipping fees that way if e-bay allows me to do it. 8)

I do Tower Shops from time to time too, it'll be nice to see another car there on those nights when we manage to coordinate coming out there as a group. :bigclap:

[eagle-co94]

Either I or my wife could pick up everything. I sent you a PM with details.

[Ozzie]

DeLoreans Sold on Ebay: 2012 Q2 Update (68 months of data).

Link Here (http://delorean2109.blogspot.com/2012/07/2012-q2-update-of-delorean-dmc-12-sales.html), text below.

"I may be late posting, but I have not stopped collecting the data, so… here it is a summary and notes of 69(!) months of eBay sales of DeLorean.

My last updated was at the end of 2011, so this update represents the first six months of the year. The results are always interesting to dissect and speculate, here is what I see in the data.

Looking at the trend line: You can see an undeniable trend for the last 18 months of upward (increasing selling price). DeLorean prices seem to have recovered from the 2010 dip, paralleling the state of global economic conditions during those times. However, in Q1 and Q2 of 2012, there has been a very steady, and moderately steep, rise in sold prices; incredibly, the rise is the most significant since I have been tracking this data since Q3 2006.

Looking at the table: Here we see the details of this rise in prices. First we note that in the first two quarters of 2012, the quantity of sold cars is on track to match the 2011 numbers (total sold in 2011: 69, and most sold was in 2008: 82)

Then we see that the average price (this is the number that is graphed above) in 2012 so far, is a healthy (or alarming I suppose depending your status as buyer or seller) 10% increase from last year. The trend seems to be that every year the average price of a DeLorean sold on eBay is tickling closer to $20K for a running decent Delorean in non-project condition.

Interestingly enough, the lowest sold running one that will require labor and parts it get to back to a decent condition, jumped up 32% from last year - this, and the increase in good condition cars, could also be attributed to the fact that more and more DeLoreans are being restored. This is again evidenced in the spread of selling prices, where the Standard Deviation (“SD”) is showing the narrowest range in 2012, than I have ever recorded since I’ve tracked these sales.

Finally some anecdotal data for 2012 Q1-Q2: By States, the most cars sold were in California (9), then a tie with Florida (4) and in New York (4), followed by Ohio (3). The lowest Vin sold was 982, highest was 20059. Lowest miles: 997 (which was the highest selling so far in 2012, at $31K), highest: 100K.

That's my summary, stop back to see how the trend for the year finishes."

[Sidaries]

Price going up. Fine. :)

[Evildeli]

After going to DCS I realized that with the Delorean appreciating in value every year I needed to call my insurance to update my agreed value. I find it odd that they don't automatically do it for us but I guess it would require them following trends on all cars to get that info.

As always I got a question for you Ozzie. Following the D's on ebay for enough time now, how many D's have you've seen get sold and resold through ebay? Not sales that fall through but ones that legit sell and legit sell again later?

[DeLorean03]

I love reading all this stuff. Interesting to see the car starting to make a push!

[Ozzie]

...As always I got a question for you Ozzie. Following the D's on ebay for enough time now, how many D's have you've seen get sold and resold through ebay? Not sales that fall through but ones that legit sell and legit sell again later?

Always like a good data mining challenge, Sir.

I can track that in my data sorting by VIN# re-sales, with greater than 100 days between sales. Then doing so...
According to my tracked history of eBay sales, 6.6% of the 435 (good condition) DeLoreans sold in 68 months, were resold in an average of 1.5 years.

[kings1527]

I loved seeing my purchase price in May on the far low end for $14.5k!:yesss:

[awildermode]

I love DeLoreans, I love graphs...I love graphs about DeLoreans.

[Delorean02378]

Ozzie,

I'd love to see how the year ended and where we're at for the 1st quarter of 2013. Again, thanks for tracking. I'm interested to see if the volume of sales has decreased compared to previous years and if prices have increased along with the parts increase we saw from Houston.

[Ozzie]

Thanks.
Yes I'll post within a week or so. I do have my typical info/results on how the year ended up.