manual transmission stuck in 1 st gear , any idea ?

[krustydmc]

first of all , the clutch kit , slave and master cylinder are 1 year old and i did change the oil in the same time ....the transmission was shifting very smoothly , i did a 80 miles run this morning , i stoped the car for 3 hrs and now , it's stuck in first gear.

it`s look to be the transmssion:nervous:, anyone else had the same problem ? or any thoughts ?


And anyone can answer this other question : how much money a year a DeLorean nead to be happy ....is it worst than an ex-wife ?:hihi2:


Hopefully , i dont have an ex- wife......but if i continue to put money on this car , it may happen.


Thanks

[Bitsyncmaster]

Does the shifter feel like normal? Maybe linkage broke.

[krustydmc]

i remove the shiter from the transmission and i'm unable to shift it directly on the transmission

[DMC5180]

i remove the shiter from the transmission and i'm unable to shift it directly on the transmission

It takes a fair amount force to move the shift lever at the transmission by hand. When I've needed to do that with the push rod disconnected, I've used an adjustable (cresent) wrench gripped on the vertical part of the lever. I'm thinking you might have the Crossgate cable adjustment slightly off. It seems unusual to not be able pull it out of gear. Is your Clutch releasing when you step on the pedal? If not, you could be binding internally. If put your left on the ground and step on the clutch pedal with your right foot can you roll the car?

[LordFly]

i remove the shiter from the transmission and i'm unable to shift it directly on the transmission

Did it feel normal before you removed it from the transmission? Last time I saw a manual stuck in gear, the pivot bolt that holds the bellcrank assembly had come loose. #17 in the picture.

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[Ron]

It takes a fair amount force to move the shift lever at the transmission by hand. When I've needed to do that with the push rod disconnected, I've used an adjustable (cresent) wrench gripped on the vertical part of the lever. I'm thinking you might have the Crossgate cable adjustment slightly off. It seems unusual to not be able pull it out of gear. Is your Clutch releasing when you step on the pedal? If not, you could be binding internally. If put your left on the ground and step on the clutch pedal with your right foot can you roll the car?+1

Try rocking it both ways...

[David T]

+1

Try rocking it both ways...

Try with the motor off. Try with the linkage disconnected at the transmission. if you still can't shift you can try removing the front cover and shifting things there. If you STILL can't shift it you will be removing it.
David Teitelbaum

[flux3d]

I had a very similar thing a couple of months ago. No problems with any gears, then when evening I tried to shift it into reverse and it seemed to get "stuck" fast. I couldn't get it into 1st, reverse or neutral. No matter what I tried it wouldn't budge. Then, when I jacked up the car from the back, lifting both wheels from the ground, it just popped out of gear and has been fine ever since.

Might be all it needs.

[krustydmc]

It takes a fair amount force to move the shift lever at the transmission by hand. When I've needed to do that with the push rod disconnected, I've used an adjustable (cresent) wrench gripped on the vertical part of the lever. I'm thinking you might have the Crossgate cable adjustment slightly off. It seems unusual to not be able pull it out of gear. Is your Clutch releasing when you step on the pedal? If not, you could be binding internally. If put your left on the ground and step on the clutch pedal with your right foot can you roll the car?

i did some test , if i push to car wont moves .....put if i press the clutch pedal , the car moves....so not a clutch problem

i remove the shifter rod from the transmission , still not possible to move it.....i will try to remove the cable tonight

thanks for your help

[krustydmc]

Thanks guys for your help , the cable was out of aligment....:partyhat:

[David T]

Thanks guys for your help , the cable was out of aligment....:partyhat:

Now I would go over ALL of the gearshift adjustments and make sure all of the linkage is well lubricated. That adjustment doesn't change by itself. Somebody (a DPO maybe) was messing with it. Who knows what else they did. Check the fluid level too. If you don't know what is in there (what kind of oil that is) change it.
David Teitelbaum

[Josh]

Now I would go over ALL of the gearshift adjustments and make sure all of the linkage is well lubricated. That adjustment doesn't change by itself. Somebody (a DPO maybe) was messing with it. Who knows what else they did. Check the fluid level too. If you don't know what is in there (what kind of oil that is) change it.
David Teitelbaum

since lubrication was mentioned, how does one lubricate the crossgate cable?

[krustydmc]

i changed the oil last year, and clean and lub. everything in the shifter...like i said , new clutch kit , new slave and new master , new stainless hose... it's why i was affraid of the transmission

[David T]

since lubrication was mentioned, how does one lubricate the crossgate cable?

Normally it shouldn't need any but you can try spraying in some silicone lubricant and working the cable in and out as you spray. The parts that really need lubrication are the relay lever (#13) and the crossgate lever (#29). Actually it is the pivot bolts that get lubricated. If they feel sticky and are not moving smoothly it should all be disassembled, cleaned, lubricated, and reassembled. I never had much success trying to lubricate things where there was old, sticky grease. On one car the crossgate lever wouldn't budge at all! The car had been sitting for years on dirt. That lever was stuck. Had to beat the pivot bolt out and clean and lube it up to get it working. A couple of other things about the gearshift linkage. There are eight rubber bushings (#7 100776). They wear out and then the shifting gets sloppy. New ones tighten it right up. Pivot bolt (#17 110183) is prone to breakage. Once it breaks you are stuck. IMHO every owner of a 5-speed should have a spare in the car so if it does break at least you have what is necessary to fix it. Even if you can't do it yourself, at least you can have a mechanic get you going quickly. It is easy to replace once you can get under the car. The tighter and smoother you can get all of the linkage to work the nicer the car will shift.
David Teitelbaum

[Josh]

Normally it shouldn't need any but you can try spraying in some silicone lubricant and working the cable in and out as you spray. The parts that really need lubrication are the relay lever (#13) and the crossgate lever (#29). Actually it is the pivot bolts that get lubricated. If they feel sticky and are not moving smoothly it should all be disassembled, cleaned, lubricated, and reassembled. I never had much success trying to lubricate things where there was old, sticky grease. On one car the crossgate lever wouldn't budge at all! The car had been sitting for years on dirt. That lever was stuck. Had to beat the pivot bolt out and clean and lube it up to get it working. A couple of other things about the gearshift linkage. There are eight rubber bushings (#7 100776). They wear out and then the shifting gets sloppy. New ones tighten it right up. Pivot bolt (#17 110183) is prone to breakage. Once it breaks you are stuck. IMHO every owner of a 5-speed should have a spare in the car so if it does break at least you have what is necessary to fix it. Even if you can't do it yourself, at least you can have a mechanic get you going quickly. It is easy to replace once you can get under the car. The tighter and smoother you can get all of the linkage to work the nicer the car will shift.
David Teitelbaum

Thanks for the insight. I did in fact clean and lubricate both of these points when re-assembling my frame. My shifter is much better now (before you couldn't even find a gear!) But it does need some extra work. It also doesn't help that I do not know what a proper functioning shifter feels like. The delorean has about the heaviest clutch in the world, I guess it makes sense to compliment it with some stiff shift linkage, haha. I will buy a pivot bolt with my next order, thanks!