What happened to this car?

[steel-and-fire]

http://www.salvage-cars-for-sale.info/salvage/for-sale-delorean-all-models-1981-MTkyMTU1NjE

I keep looking at it and I can't figure out what happened.

[Domi]

If I remember well, the car was used for a tv commercial.
Full of sea sand. The video must be somewhere here.

[louielouie2000]

That's the DeLorean used in the Old Spice commercial that was turned into a sand sculpture:

http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?3731-Old-Spice-Commercial-Sand-DeLorean-at-the-beach

[Dangermouse]

I was wondering how they were going to get all the sand out. Now I know.

[steel-and-fire]

That's the DeLorean used in the Old Spice commercial that was turned into a sand sculpture:

Thanks. I hadn't seen that commercial before. I was genuinely stumped on what had happened.

[Kenny_Z]

I think that car was damaged before it became a sand sculpture. Still sad to see it in this state. Hopefully someone buys it for restoration.

[ccurzio]

I think that car was damaged before it became a sand sculpture. Still sad to see it in this state. Hopefully someone buys it for restoration.

I honestly think it's too far gone even for a restoration. This is a parts car now, pure and simple.

[Dangermouse]

You don't think you could sand out the damage and regrain ;)

[kenny]

You guys in the US part cars out that would be restored in Europe. Unless there is some serious damage apart from the rear fascia I see no reason why this car could not be restored

[ccurzio]

You guys in the US part cars out that would be restored in Europe. Unless there is some serious damage apart from the rear fascia I see no reason why this car could not be restored

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this car cannot be restored. Of course it can. I'm saying it's pretty damned cost-prohibitive to do so.

[Josh]

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this car cannot be restored. Of course it can. I'm saying it's pretty damned cost-prohibitive to do so.

Anyone saying this is talking out of their ass at this point in time, as no one has seen it. Also, someone with actual experience with a restoration would be more suited to answer that question.

I wondered about this car.... interesting.

[Delorean Industries]

You guys in the US part cars out that would be restored in Europe. Unless there is some serious damage apart from the rear fascia I see no reason why this car could not be restored

Not true.

[ccurzio]

Anyone saying this is talking out of their ass at this point in time, as no one has seen it.

The ad has pictures, you know.

Sand has been glued to the windshield, shifter, steering wheel, as well as pretty much every exterior part on the car (and in the external pics you can see they scraped the SHIT out of the hood to get off whatever they could pry up), the rear fascia and left taillight have been destroyed, all four rims will need absolutely meticulous cleaning and refinishing, the interior of the doors are COMPLETELY covered with the goop/sand mixture as are the seats and carpet, and who knows what else on the inside of the car. So it's not so much talking out of my ass as, you know, actually looking at the visible evidence.

The engine compartment looks to be in great shape. The motor could run and hell, the car could actually be drivable. Doesn't make any difference. So if I'm going to be accused of talking out of my ass, my ass is saying "the visible damage to the car would be astronomically expensive to repair."

[ccurzio]

http://i.imgur.com/9TUhfvc.jpg

In this pic you can see that it looks like some kind of foam was adhered to the interior parts of the car and then the sand was "painted" onto the foam. On the left side of the image, however, you can see it was directly painted onto the interior door panels as the door's grab handle is visible. Evidence of the sand-goop being painted onto foam is evident in the lower-right, where you can see the unpainted foam area with drips of the sand-goop running onto it. (This portion was not seen on-screen which is why it was unpainted.)

http://i.imgur.com/wg09Csm.jpg

In this image, you can see more evidence of the foam that was adhered to the seats and then the sand-goop painted over it. You can see where they tried removing the foam from the seat, damaging the very top of the headrest in the process.

So yeah, I think my ass might be kinda smart.

[Michael]

Yeah I think the whole talking out of his ass thing was way off...though he is an ass :neener:

Whatever they used to secure the base for the sand to adhere too is obviously very permanent and the only thing that may be salvagable is the panels and maybe a few Interior bits...and even that is going to take a lot of work to rescue. I think its safe to assume they didn't go out and buy a primo DeLorean to start with knowing they were going to destroy it. Who knows how it runs, if at all?

It may look tempting at 2650.00 but I think it will go higher. I wouldn't feel safe at more than 4k on that one...and thats assuming that crap can come off without a grinding wheel.

[ccurzio]

though he is an ass :neener:

Granted. :tongue:

[Josh]

Granted. :tongue:

I am just commenting that a guy who does not know how to do simple brake work on his car is assessing the restorability of a vehicle through 10 low resolution pictures over the internet. Thanks for calling me an ass, why are you a administrator again?

[DeLorean03]

:popcorn:

And here's the pitch ....

[ccurzio]

I am just commenting that a guy who does not know how to do simple brake work on his car is assessing the restorability of a vehicle through 10 low resolution pictures over the internet. Thanks for calling me an ass, why are you a administrator again?

Michael was calling ME an ass, and I was agreeing with him. But good effort on trying to start a fight.

And if you'd like to make an effort at refuting any of the obvious glaring misinformation I've posted and tell me why I'm wrong, I'm all ears.

[Josh]

Not trying to start a fight! Re-reading it I can see how it is but I read it the other way.

Just understand what you know and what you do not, which is the work involved and cost associated with in a restoration of any kind. I do not know if you have ever bought a car off of the internet before, but pictures barely tell half of the story. To get a decent assessment of this car it would have to be viewed in person for starters.

[Josh]

Ah i see you have edited your post.

Yes this car is in a great state of disrepair. Judging from the pictures (which is not a great idea such as when I purchased my car):

The feasibility of this potential restoration depends on how much you are willing to take on. For me, as a DIY kind of person, I would do everything save a wheel alignment lol.

-The rear fascia needs to be replaced, both repainted
-The panels need to be removed, cleaned, and regrained. Once removed the under body would need to be thoroughly cleaned. This is all labor. If you get the car externally re grained and repaired that will definitely blow the budget. Some panels may need to be replaced. The cost of panels is not as much as one would think, but they aren't cheap either. Shopping around for panels can yield a decent price.
-The interior is hard to assess. I would start with removing everything and taking it to the pressure washer. Depending on how the sand is applied some parts could be saved. But hard to tell how they attached all the sand.
-The frame and everything attached to it would need a go-through. Even though the engine is running alot of work would need to be done to rid any issues with the sand or the cars past. I would reccomend a brake system rebuild, clutch system rebuild, transmission rebuild, clean out the fuel system (new pump, filter, soft lines), rebuild the axles (full of sand) for the major stuff.
-The suspension would need to be gone though. New shocks, balljoints, tierod ends, rebuild the rack, anything with grease or oil.
-Then all the nickle and dime stuff. Broken or unsavable exterior and interior bits, and small mechanical things here and there.

It would be an expensive project but this car could be saved potentially. Someone who really knew what they were doing would need to get it though. Also, I would hope no one would pay much more than the current bid for it.
To top it all off, the car would have a hell of a history.

[Michael]

Not trying to start a fight! Re-reading it I can see how it is but I read it the other way.

My comment was directed at Chris....Given his history I thought that would have been understood :hihi:


I do not know if you have ever bought a car off of the internet before, but pictures barely tell half of the story.

I have bought plenty of cars off the internet and I can assure you, the pictures always tell the better half of the story

[ccurzio]

The point is, it doesn't take someone who knows how to fix brakes to look at a rare car (which happens to be personally owned) that has has its interior and a lot of the exterior completely destroyed and say "yep, that's a money pit right there."

As an aside, I DO have experience in automotive restoration. I'm in the process of tearing down and restoring a 1986 Pontiac Firebird, ripping out the entire interior and replacing every single bit with new different-color interior parts from bare metal up. I've also replaced various body parts and wired in power mirrors where there weren't any before. Paint aside, I'm doing all the work myself. The car is just waiting to be painted and I have every piece ready to be installed and they were expensive as fuck, and that ISN'T a rare car.

And you know what? I had someone else rebuild the brakes on that car too.

[Kenny_Z]

I'm judging it as a DIY project like Josh. I'm not seeing anything there I can't handle. It it can be grabbed cheap enough it might even break even.

Honestly, how cool would it be to point to your DeLorean and say "yeah, she was the one in that Old Spice commercial."? Everyone has seen the car. Get it signed by some of the commercial actors and you might turn a profit. For some reason the geek community is in love with Old Spice...I think it has a lot to do with Bruce Campbell.

[Michael]

Honestly, how cool would it be to point to your DeLorean and say "yeah, she was the one in that Old Spice commercial."?

I could do that right now and everyone would believe it...after all obscure facts are the most believable


Get it signed by some of the commercial actors and you might turn a profit.

Or I could have a bunch of guys from work sign it...nobody has heard of them either and it would increase the value of the car about as much as having say....a bunch of unknown guys from work write on your car.

[ccurzio]

Honestly, how cool would it be to point to your DeLorean and say "yeah, she was the one in that Old Spice commercial."?

That is the one saving grace I thought about in owning that car.

Old Spice Guy had a lot to do with propelling the brand in geekdom. I'm on a horse.

Side-note: I bought both my DeLorean and my firebird off the Internet. Aside from pics, I bought the DeLorean sight unseen.

[Kenny_Z]

Just realized with a salvage title you can forget about profit. I'm sure there are ways to prove it was the old spice car. Something was documented somewhere down the line.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people have heard of Bruce Campbell. Terry Crews and Isaiah Mufasta (sp?) are up coming actors. If Isaiah lands the part of Luke Cage (rumored) he'll become a house hold name.

[dvonk]

for posterity: VIN 01345

[Dangermouse]

Not true.

Which part of Kenny's post are you saying isn't true? That the US parts out cars more readily or that this particular car is unrepairable ?

More than a few cars with damaged titles have made there way overseas where they are repaired and given a clean title. Not to say that they are "washing" away the salvage/fire record and putting something unsafe on the roads as the finished product undergoes a strict road worthiness test before being allow out.