High Performance Brake Pads?

[vwdmc16]

Its been a few years and Im just about out of rear brake pads, So time for new pads and probably rotors. Anyone heard of some stronger than stock brake pads available for our cars? Ceramic or otherwise? I have connections from my racing days that I could get custom laser cut pads in any compound available from Rayspestos but that is a pricey option at about $300 an axle. I plan on building a full upgraded modified brake system with vented rotors and willwood calipers but that is still probably a year off, I would just like some pads that could save me a few more feet in an emergency until then.


Thanks!

[NightFlyer]

Best I know of are the EBC RedStuff pads:

http://ebcbrakes.com/product/redstuff-brake-pads/

[BABIS]

Best I know of are the EBC RedStuff pads:

http://ebcbrakes.com/product/redstuff-brake-pads/

yes actually they are the best for the original system!

[WelmoedJ]

+1

I use the red ones too.
Need to warm up to get better braking performance, but to me they are the better ones.

DMC EU sells vented upgrade sets for the front brakes.
Come with double pistons in the brake calipers.

Haven't yet spent the money on that upgrade (economic situation reasons :( ) but they are on my wish list.

[RammJaeger]

+1

I use the red ones too.
Need to warm up to get better braking performance, but to me they are the better ones.

DMC EU sells vented upgrade sets for the front brakes.
Come with double pistons in the brake calipers.

Haven't yet spent the money on that upgrade (economic situation reasons :( ) but they are on my wish list.

I've been looking to upgrade my brakes. I can't find these vented disks you are talking about on thier site. Do you have a link?

[WelmoedJ]

I've been looking to upgrade my brakes. I can't find these vented disks you are talking about on thier site. Do you have a link?

There is a picture pair of drilled rotors on their webpage "Tuning onderdelen" (Tuning parts), subpage picture "Remmen/Wielen" (Brakes/Wheels).
However only that picture is available, on the Brakes/Wheels page there's no reference found.

You may want to inquire by e-mail to [email protected]
He's always very willing to provide info and prices.

[sdg3205]

I certainly love the idea of "almost brake-dust free" pads.

[David T]

More aggressive pads will chew up the rotors and do not grip well in the wet or till they get warm-hot. Drilled rotors are noisy and for a street car many find it objectionable. The "ordinary" compounds are the best compromise for street driving. If you are driving on the track then changes could be useful. Tires have a BIG effect on braking too. You may want to try different tires but the grippier the tire the faster it wears and they also do not do well cold or wet.

[NightFlyer]

More aggressive pads will chew up the rotors and do not grip well in the wet or till they get warm-hot. Drilled rotors are noisy and for a street car many find it objectionable. The "ordinary" compounds are the best compromise for street driving. If you are driving on the track then changes could be useful. Tires have a BIG effect on braking too. You may want to try different tires but the grippier the tire the faster it wears and they also do not do well cold or wet.

One of the main selling points of the EBC RedStuff pads, direct from their website:


Very minimal disc/rotor damage characteristics.

Less dust also means less rotor wear and it is almost guaranteed that your rotors will last double as long as when used with the more abrasive steel fibre brake compounds used by almost all of our competition.

[DMCMW Dave]

The current pads sold by DMC/dealers are ceramic and seem to be relatively low dust.

[NightFlyer]

The current pads sold by DMC/dealers are ceramic and seem to be relatively low dust.

Did I get the ceramic pads, as I thought that the ones I purchased from you were semi-metallic? When did you make the switch to ceramic?

Whatever my pads are, while they're not overly dirty (like the stock/OEM organic/asbestos pads were), they aren't super clean either, which is why I was looking into getting some RedStuff pads installed over winter hibernation... Well, that as well as for the reduced rotor wear vs semi-metallic pads... Then again, I liked how the organic/asbestos pads didn't wear the rotors at all, but then again, they only lasted about 14k miles before needing to be changed (but 9k of those miles were PO driven miles and I'm much easier on the brakes than most drivers as I regularly get over 100k miles out of pads/rotors). I'll have to think about this further... :wink:

[David T]

Did I get the ceramic pads, as I thought that the ones I purchased from you were semi-metallic? When did you make the switch to ceramic?

Whatever my pads are, while they're not overly dirty (like the stock/OEM organic/asbestos pads were), they aren't super clean either, which is why I was looking into getting some RedStuff pads installed over winter hibernation... Well, that as well as for the reduced rotor wear vs semi-metallic pads... Then again, I liked how the organic/asbestos pads didn't wear the rotors at all, but then again, they only lasted about 14k miles before needing to be changed (but 9k of those miles were PO driven miles and I'm much easier on the brakes than most drivers as I regularly get over 100k miles out of pads/rotors). I'll have to think about this further... :wink:

You don't get "dustless" pads without compromising other more desirable qualities. Part of what makes a good pad is the fact that it wears. Pads are cheap and easy to replace compared to the rotors. When you run a car on the track you can expect to use at least a set of pads AND tires IN ONE DAY! And a LOT of gas.

[vwdmc16]

Not necessarily, it depends on the compound. A few years back in my amateur racing days out team had a 2900lb V8 Volvo 244 that we ran endurance road racing, incredible brakes kept us among the fastest cars. We used Rayspestos ST43 pads which are derived from a NASCAR compound. We could out brake just about every car pulling over 1.5G in decel. The had terrific feedback, required very little heat to start working, Fade was minimal unless you really cooked them. The front pads would last enough for our 24hr endurance races and another track day or two after that. The rears would then be good for another 8hrs of heavy abuse. Best of all the rotors would NOT get chewed up. High heat micro cracks would kill them after about 25hrs, they were just the good quality Stock spec Brembo rotors. Even brake dust wasnt much of an issue. They only drawback was the cost.

[vwdmc16]

Info on the ST compounds here.
http://porterfield-brakes.com/images/raycomp2008_11_06_03_19_04.pdf

[vwdmc16]

Called and got a quote for having a set of pads made in the st43 compound. A whopping $199 for the front and $279 for the rear. Compared to $45 and $38 for stock. With shipping that is over $500 for some pads....

[jawn101]

Called and got a quote for having a set of pads made in the st43 compound. A whopping $199 for the front and $279 for the rear. Compared to $45 and $38 for stock. With shipping that is over $500 for some pads....

Wow, that's a lot!

[Stanislav]

http://www.specialtauto.com/delorean-parts/images/brake-pad-ultimate.jpg

http://www.specialtauto.com/delorean-parts/brakes-rotors.html

This Axxis Ceramics looks to be a good deal at $50 bucks and ceramic so no dust on those hard to clean delorean wheels. then the next upgrade would be vented rotors, but have to modify or buy new calipers for that, gets pricey.