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NightFlyer
11-12-2013, 01:33 AM
Anyone know the VIN cutoff of the 'flush' mounted quarter panel glass and when the recessed quarter panel glass started?
DMCMW Dave
11-12-2013, 07:48 AM
The mounting is the same, the glass Is glued from behind. The difference is only whether or not the rubber filler strip is in place. I have not seen an official engineering memo but my gut feel is in the vin6000 range.
BABIS
11-12-2013, 07:51 AM
any visual reference?
DMCMW Dave
11-12-2013, 10:02 AM
Here is one with the rubber trim and one without. Subtle but the one with the trim looks a bit more finished. It's similar but smaller rubber than the door glass surround.

The one without the rubber trim just uses the adhesive to fill the gap.

It's a pain to install so it's not unusual to see it on one side of a car and not the other.

Glue Fill (EARLY) : 23000


Rubber Fill (LATE) : 23001


Quick survey here this morning - Limited to my sample size of 25-ish cars, the rubber filler appears on low-6000 vin and 7000-vin cars (and 82/83 cars), never on anything lower numbered than that. I'll still say VIN6000.
Mark D
11-12-2013, 10:12 AM
My VIN is 6125 and it has the later style rubber seal...

Just one more thing I really didn't pay much attention to prior to owning a D.
DMCMW Dave
11-12-2013, 10:17 AM
My VIN is 6125 and it has the later style rubber seal...

Just one more thing I really didn't pay much attention to prior to owning a D.

It's like the wheel castings.

You own the car for years and never notice it, then you do and realize you have one odd wheel or one side trim different from the other!
MartyP
11-12-2013, 11:58 AM
6357 does have the later rubber trim too.
NightFlyer
11-12-2013, 02:30 PM
The mounting is the same, the glass Is glued from behind. The difference is only whether or not the rubber filler strip is in place. I have not seen an official engineering memo but my gut feel is in the vin6000 range.

Interesting that the mounting is exactly the same.

Maybe it's just me, or perhaps it's an optical illusion caused by the rubber filler strip, but the glass on glue filled cars appears closer to the plane of the stainless panels, or nearly 'flush,' while the glass on rubber strip filled cars appears further away from the plane of the stainless, or more recessed.

Anyone else see this, or is it just me?

I'm curious as to whether or not it's possible to install the rubber filler strip on glue filled cars without having to dislodge and remount the glass?

Not a huge thing - just one of the quirks of our cars that has occupied my thoughts lately.... :biggrin:
DMCMW Dave
11-12-2013, 02:34 PM
Anyone else see this, or is it just me?

I'm curious as to whether or not it's possible to install the rubber filler strip on glue filled cars without having to dislodge and remount the glass?

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It's caused partially by the rubber filling the gap on an angle. The rubber is triangular in cross-section. Also the glass may be further from the stainless by as much as 1/16" but it would all be made up in the thickness of the adhesive.

The glass would need to be removed. You'd hate yourself for attempting it, especially with the quarter panel in place. It's do-able but messy. Especially if you have one of the cars that does not have the metal support clips (another topic!).
NightFlyer
11-12-2013, 02:35 PM
Quick survey here this morning - Limited to my sample size of 25-ish cars, the rubber filler appears on low-6000 vin and 7000-vin cars (and 82/83 cars), never on anything lower numbered than that. I'll still say VIN6000.

Thanks for the reply Dave! As there's nothing in the concours manual about this, we'll go with your estimate as being 'official.' :thumbup:

Both of mine on #1798 are glue filled.
NightFlyer
11-12-2013, 02:45 PM
Especially if you have one of the cars that does not have the metal support clips (another topic!).

Metal support clips... you don't say?!?!

#1798 has no visible metal support clips on the back of the glass, so I definitely won't be attempting an addition, not that I was ever going to, as I actually prefer the overall look of the glass/panel of glue filled cars over the rubber filler strip cars, even thought the 'finish' that the rubber adds does make for a more 'completed/professional' look.

Just something I was morbidly curious about :nana1: