View Full Version : General 1982 DeLorean Lithograph Print by Larry Lake & JZD's Signature
martydmc12
04-12-2014, 06:08 AM
I attended a classic car auction today, and they had a memorabilia auction before the main event. They happened to have a framed lithograph print of a DeLorean, one I've actually seen before in old issues of DeLorean World, and around the web over the years. However this print was a little different - it's got John DeLorean's signature on it. It's not often something like this comes up for sale, let alone DeLorean memorabilia of any kind at a car auction in my neck of the woods. So without thinking, I bid on it and won! It wasn't until after I walked out of there, that I started to realize that I may have purchased a fake. Is it possible there are forged John DeLorean items out there? I mean, I can understand Babe Ruth or John Lennon, but JZD?
The guy who sold it operates one of these autograph companies out of Vegas, claims he has more DMC stuff in his inventory. They way he talked, it sounds as if he may have purchased this from dmcseller on eBay. I've got an certificate of authenticity, and he said he'll get me all of the information on it's history when he gets back to his shop in the next couple of days. In the meantime, I think I may be just a bit paranoid. I don't think it's a fake, and I know that there are autographed versions of this print by the artist, Larry Lake. It's JZD's signature that's got me a bit worried. I know his signature pretty well, and it looks authentic, but like I said, I think I might just be a little bit paranoid.
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JohnZ
04-12-2014, 08:05 AM
Well signature aside... the picture is AMAZING! There's something "seventies" about that Delorean... I can't explain it, it just tells me "70s"! :nana2:
Must be sharper edges... I don't know, nice find though!
;)
Michael
04-12-2014, 08:25 AM
Very nice. I'm no handwriting expert but the signature does look like his, (unlike someone who had a door panel signature lately).
Patrick C
04-12-2014, 08:38 AM
DMCSeller wouldn't have something like this, as the license plate reads "SNOBIRD" in reference to the cocaine sting. JZD had lost the company by the time he walked away from that nightmare, so I doubt he would have signed something like this that would have ended up in DMCSeller's DMC corporate records lot. Also, the signature doesn't look 100% right in my opinion. Just my $0.02
BABIS
04-12-2014, 08:43 AM
a little bit OT but I'm still wondering who dmcseller is...
Patrick C
04-12-2014, 09:32 AM
a little bit OT but I'm still wondering who dmcseller is...
The seller on eBay who is parting out all of the corporate DMC files/paperwork that were seized after the bankruptcy.
Bruce Johnson
04-12-2014, 09:34 PM
Here are several examples of his signature I have that you can compare yours to.
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Hope this helps
Bruce
jawn101
04-12-2014, 11:52 PM
DMCSeller wouldn't have something like this, as the license plate reads "SNOBIRD" in reference to the cocaine sting. JZD had lost the company by the time he walked away from that nightmare, so I doubt he would have signed something like this that would have ended up in DMCSeller's DMC corporate records lot. Also, the signature doesn't look 100% right in my opinion. Just my $0.02
+1, I don't know if JZD would want to sign something like this - if he did, that's just +100 to his sense of humor in my book.
martydmc12
04-13-2014, 03:37 AM
Here are several examples of his signature I have that you can compare yours to.
264912649226493
Hope this helps
Bruce
Thanks, Bruce. The first two images of the three look nothing like the signature on the print. But the third one of your photos does. John's signature certainly is mixed, as I've looked at a number of his signatures since I purchased this print last night. Sometimes he clearly spells DeLorean, other times it just looks like a squiggle. I've been asking around, and I hope to have more information in the next couple of days.
What I'm really trying to find out, is the date in which this art was done. It's obvious it's 1982, but when in 1982 - before or after October 19th, 1982? Is it possible that the words "SNO BIRD" have nothing to do with the entrapment, and it's just a huge coincident, especially if was done before his arrest.
You can see his signature on my photos here:
http://dmctalk.org/album.php?albumid=40
BABIS
04-13-2014, 04:16 PM
The seller on eBay who is parting out all of the corporate DMC files/paperwork that were seized after the bankruptcy.
yes I already knew that he is the seller who is selling all the DMC paperworks, but I'm wondering who is in real life and how he has tons of DMC stuff of that kind..
Michael
04-13-2014, 04:45 PM
yes I already knew that he is the seller who is selling all the DMC paperworks, but I'm wondering who is in real life and how he has tons of DMC stuff of that kind..
I believe he is or was a lawyer and his firm handled a lot of the receivership aspects of DMC.
Rich W
04-14-2014, 01:28 PM
I believe he is or was a lawyer and his firm handled a lot of the receivership aspects of DMC.
dmctrustee was the lawyer that handled most of the receivership aspects of DMC. This ebay user name is now "retired".
dmcseller is the son of the lawyer that handled most of the receivership aspects of DMC. This ebay user name is active.
nofear365
04-14-2014, 01:52 PM
I've got the very same poster in my garage. When I was 10 or 11 my uncle somehow found it for me and I've had it hung on my wall ever since.
D Knight
04-14-2014, 06:35 PM
Mine has a copyright date of 82 and says "classic" above the car. Not a fan of the plate
-D Knight-
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