Vented disk

[Stanislav]

Hi guys I am trying to figure out the cheapest way to upgrade the delorean brakes to vented rotors. The vendor options are out of my budget and i honestly cannot see myself spending $1500 on a big brake kit on a non abs car, actually on any car, i think aftermarket brake kits are ridiculously overpriced. Especially after reading from Stephen that the 4 piston calipers lock up the brakes too easy since our front is so light. I have found spacers for our girling front calipers that allow for a vented disk, they are about $70 and VW golf mark 1 or 2 front 4x100 brake discs which can be had for around $150 are very very similar in dimensions to ours except they are vented. Does anyone have any other suggestions? I havent figured out anything for the rear yet! Thanks.

[Stanislav]

Link to caliper spacer kit

https://www.canleyclassics.com/?xhtml=xhtml/product/rd3270.html&xsl=product.xsl

[David T]

Link to caliper spacer kit

https://www.canleyclassics.com/?xhtml=xhtml/product/rd3270.html&xsl=product.xsl

The brakes on the Delorean, when they are working properly, are more than adequate for street driving. With the right pads there is no brake fade. For the track the brakes are not sufficient and then it is appropriate to try to improve them. One thing you always try to do is to keep your "Unsprung Weight" as low as you can. That includes the brakes which are unsprung.

[Stanislav]

Hi David, everyone is entitled to their own opinion when it comes to upgrades on any car. I believe I need to upgrade to Vented discs, not for stopping power but for repeated stopping power. Spirited driving heats up brakes quick, larger disc size would be great as well. I have a Z06 corvette and used to have a BMW M5, I know what a proper braking system should stop like, and I like the feel of the Delorean brakes, just don't like that they heat up quickly. I drive my cars enthusiastically, and need them to perform to my taste, that is what this thread is about.

[Nicholas R]

I agree; I've driven plenty of DeLoreans with properly functioning brakes and they have all shown brake fade during anything other than standard street driving. It's supposed to be a fun car to do fun things in. The brake fade is not a small concern; it is a very real show stopper. the member "Easy Now" was putting a wilwood kit together a little while ago.

[David T]

I agree; I've driven plenty of DeLoreans with properly functioning brakes and they have all shown brake fade during anything other than standard street driving. It's supposed to be a fun car to do fun things in. The brake fade is not a small concern; it is a very real show stopper. the member "Easy Now" was putting a wilwood kit together a little while ago.

I did say "street driving". If you are going to "drive it like you stole it" on the street then you would see some brake fade depending on what pads you use. The most popular "upgrade" is drilled rotors but you have to live with the noise. Going with vented rotors is a better compromise but you are adding a lot of unsprung weight. Maybe you are better off trying a different pad that is more aggressive with hotter brakes. The problem with that is they don't work well cold or wet so they are not a good choice for "ordinary" street driving. Semi-metallics or ceramics may be what you are looking for but they chew up rotors. A lot of choices, a lot of decisions. The Delorean is not a track car so choose wisely. If you are into "spirited" driving maybe you should look at another car like a Lotus Elise. That thing fits like a sneaker and it drives like a souped up Go-Kart on steroids. Another thing to remember, the Delorean has a very rudimentary (read simple) braking system. No ABS or traction control or any of those "modern" things. With a "hot" braking system you could lock up a wheel very easily with the wrong tires and if it is a rear wheel you can get into a LOT of trouble VERY quickly. Every choice is a compromise, understand what you are gaining and what you are giving up.

[Stanislav]

I agree; I've driven plenty of DeLoreans with properly functioning brakes and they have all shown brake fade during anything other than standard street driving. It's supposed to be a fun car to do fun things in. The brake fade is not a small concern; it is a very real show stopper. the member "Easy Now" was putting a wilwood kit together a little while ago.


Thank you Nick!

[Stanislav]

I did say "street driving". If you are going to "drive it like you stole it" on the street then you would see some brake fade depending on what pads you use. The most popular "upgrade" is drilled rotors but you have to live with the noise. Going with vented rotors is a better compromise but you are adding a lot of unsprung weight. Maybe you are better off trying a different pad that is more aggressive with hotter brakes. The problem with that is they don't work well cold or wet so they are not a good choice for "ordinary" street driving. Semi-metallics or ceramics may be what you are looking for but they chew up rotors. A lot of choices, a lot of decisions. The Delorean is not a track car so choose wisely. If you are into "spirited" driving maybe you should look at another car like a Lotus Elise. That thing fits like a sneaker and it drives like a souped up Go-Kart on steroids. Another thing to remember, the Delorean has a very rudimentary (read simple) braking system. No ABS or traction control or any of those "modern" things. With a "hot" braking system you could lock up a wheel very easily with the wrong tires and if it is a rear wheel you can get into a LOT of trouble VERY quickly. Every choice is a compromise, understand what you are gaining and what you are giving up.

Dave, If I wanted an Elise I would have bought one! I think the Delorean is a great driving car with just a few things that need to be addressed to make it much better and vented discs are one of those.

[Stanislav]

http://smckaperformance.com.au/shop/brakes/rotor-vented-plain-247mm-x-20mm-group-1-escort-capri-all-2/

Vented rotor

[Patrick C]

http://smckaperformance.com.au/shop/brakes/rotor-vented-plain-247mm-x-20mm-group-1-escort-capri-all-2/

Vented rotor

If these are a direct replacement when using the caliper spacers you linked to, please let us know!

[Elvis]

For sure they are not - others have invested hours and days to find properly fitting ones.

Without success !


Customized Toyota rotors with special adapters is what I ended up with - thanks to Ed Uding
and to friends who machined me the adapters.

[DCUK Martin]

Especially after reading from Stephen that the 4 piston calipers lock up the brakes too easy since our front is so light.

Hence you should upgrade all four, not just the fronts.

[Stanislav]

For sure they are not - others have invested hours and days to find properly fitting ones.

Without success !


Customized Toyota rotors with special adapters is what I ended up with - thanks to Ed Uding
and to friends who machined me the adapters.


I think those look Identical to ours except vented so need the caliper spacers!

[Stanislav]

Hence you should upgrade all four, not just the fronts.

I don't really need more braking force, just better cooling.

[DCUK Martin]

Can I suggest that a different approach, and one which is drop-in, is to switch to EBC Redstuff high temperature brake pads. Rather than fading as the discs heat up, these improve.

[David T]

Can I suggest that a different approach, and one which is drop-in, is to switch to EBC Redstuff high temperature brake pads. Rather than fading as the discs heat up, these improve.

Using a different brake pad materiel is a good drop-in option. Be careful though, many times you trade one thing for another. In many cases better fade resistance means bad or grabby cold performance and/or none when wet. They can also chew up the rotors fast or throw out a LOT of brake dust and wear out quickly. All of these things are a compromise to get a brake pad with good "street manners". For high performance it is typical to sacrifice more of some things to get more of other things for a specific track. Some pads are VERY expensive. For track use it is not uncommon to go through a set of pads (and tires) in ONE DAY!

[DCUK Martin]

There are a number if DeLoreans running these around the world. I would venture the only downside is accellerated disc wear, but not by much.

[easy now]

Nice

[opethmike]

I have EBC red stuff pads in my car. They're not great while cold, but once warmed up, they are fantastic.

[BABIS]

New "power brakes" kits from DMC.EU http://www.delorean.eu/catalog/index.php?cPath=20_144

[Josh]

New "power brakes" kits from DMC.EU http://www.delorean.eu/catalog/index.php?cPath=20_144

I know what my next upgrade will be... not too expensive either.

[Delorean Industries]

I agree this is a great "in between" option for owners that want to upgrade without replacing the stock calipers. Whom ever thought of putting solid rotors on this car wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

[DCUK Martin]

Brake pads were more effective when made from asbestos

[drdelorean]

Looks like an exciting upgrade, I would love to hear a "review" of it!

[Josh]

I agree this is a great "in between" option for owners that want to upgrade without replacing the stock calipers. Whom ever thought of putting solid rotors on this car wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

what brake setups are you running on your turbo cars?
and the price point?