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Tweaked with custom ceramic coated exhaust, extremely aggressive camshafts that also offer a great idle and fuel economy in an automatic (yes our cam grinds are different between manuals and autos) and a few other tricks. Glad you are enjoying it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Canon20DFan
I think that was aimed more towards me thirdmanj as was the first part of Tony's response.Quote:
Originally Posted by thirdmanj
Yes, I'm enjoying it. The most interesting side-effect of the DPI mods are how quiet the engine is. I used to have to raise my voice to speak to the passenger at highway speeds, but I don't have to do that now. The car is as quiet as a modern car with all the shrouds they put under the hood these days.
By the way, Josh, can you fabricate a new transmission for the Delorean? I'd like one, 6-speed, please, and be able to dynamically set the shift points (economy or drag racing). Please install by December, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPI JOSH
Thanks to an LA owner who pointed us in a certain direction we are currently working with a transmission outfit in NJ to retrofit a custom transmission set up that can withstand our Spec III offering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canon20DFan
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Originally Posted by DPI JOSH
Sorry Farrar..... Los Angeles
I figured that, since it was prefaced with an "an" instead of an "a" -- but my head still explodes when I think of custom transmission options for a DeLorean -- amazing!Quote:
Originally Posted by DPI JOSH
Farrar
Spec III? Have I missed something?
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Originally Posted by DPI JOSH
Interesting thread, but until now only the second reply was talking about the differences between the Stage 1 and Stage 2 engines. Can somebody explain me what are the upgrades compared to a stock engine?
As I know it:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidaries
Stage 1: Stainless Exhaust(Headers, Dual Cats and Muffler), K&N Filter, "Cold Air" intake duct and new coil and O2 sensor
Stage 2: All of the above plus modified performance cams with ported & polished heads.
Ignition coil? Does Houston use HEI on Stage I?Quote:
Originally Posted by sean
Bill Robertson
#5939
Yes ignition coil and no it does not appear they bundle the Nology stuff with stage I.Quote:
Originally Posted by content22207
What brand of coil?
Bill Robertson
#5939
Your favorite, Bosch.Quote:
Originally Posted by content22207
Its a BRAND NEW old stock coil.
And it works great!
I don't get this. Is there something wrong with Bosch?Quote:
Originally Posted by sean
Plus new fuel injectors.Quote:
Originally Posted by sean
Not that I've ever found. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dracula
To me, no. To Bill, well he's got a problem with most everything doesn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dracula
:D
Fixed it and NOW I get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sean
New different, or new oem?Quote:
Originally Posted by DMCMW Dave
New from Bosch. OEM spec. They don't want a new Stage 2 running bad because of poor injectors (common).Quote:
Originally Posted by TTait
I didn't think I got new injectors in my upgrade, shortly after (maybe a month) I was having power fall out issues and brought it into the shop. they tested the injectors and found three that were faulty and needed replacement.
I pulled one a few weeks ago, it had no spray. I wonder if I didnt get any injectors as well and thats why she quit running on me. Of course had I gotten the other 5 things out of 10 done, paint the fascias, paint the rims, blend the stainless, front end recall kit and new windshield my car might still be running :rolleyes:
You did get new injectors.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Mcfly4u
I guess I should post your tech inspection here and the items turned down.
I'll take this as far as you want it to go.
1Mcfly4u, you made it clear a few times you are not happy and Tony has stated at least twice he would honor the work. Please take future complaints about your situation directly to the source or they may be removed.
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Originally Posted by 1Mcfly4u
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Originally Posted by DMCFL Tony
sean-Quote:
Originally Posted by sean
you're a moderator, not a censor. Explain to me why we can have what seems to be an entire page devoted to "ed bashing" and yet when one member shows a little bit of sarcasm that implies mechanics (not Tony specifically) at DMCFL fucked up, you threaten to censor his comment. While it is very gracious of Tony to offer his services to 1mcfly4u (and me) its kinda pointless because WE"RE IN VIRGINIA!!! and we're not rich. We simply can't afford to send our cars down there to have work done that may or may not be necessary because of a possible error on DMCFL's part.
Again, 1mcfly4u isn't "bashing" Tony like everyone else in this website seems to bash Ed whenever the opportunity presents itself. He's stating a fact. That as it happens was helpful to me and maybe others who read the thread. If the injectors on his car were replaced, as mine were, then why 1 month after he gets the car back does he pull one, and it doesn't function at all? Why in about a month did I have power issues and take my car to another shop and they find 3 faulty injectors? While I admire Tony's honor is accepting responsibility for possible oversights on his mechanics part. No one reasonable can expect him to stand over EVERY SINGLE CAR and monitor. For what its worth I know for a fact that the main mechanic who performed work on my vehicle doesn't work there any more, and in the year my car was down there they went through two different "head of sales" or whatever you wanna call them. Take that for what it is. But don't turn into a censor. 1mcfly4u is not being fowl, or downright insulting, he's frustrated and its apparent in his tone, thats all.
Never said there was any bashing, and I can appreciate his situation but he has made it clear he is displeased and if he wants to voice it, start a thread about it in the review section. I don't want read about every time someone mentions a Stage whatever upgrade. You two are welcome to hash it out in a review thread but I'm not having it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by thirdmanj
Nobody is "hashing" anything out. We're investigating and collaborating which is what a forum is all about. Why hasn't a DMC rep come on this thread and post a list of itemized details of what exactly is done to make a Stage II a Stage II. That would eliminate all speculation and this discussion would be over.Quote:
Originally Posted by sean
Can't answer for them but I wonder what more over this do you want?Quote:
Originally Posted by thirdmanj
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Originally Posted by sean
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Originally Posted by DMCMW Dave
How about getting your answer verified then by a rep from DMC?Quote:
Originally Posted by sean
Wouldn't DMCMW Dave's response to my post only adding new injectors to the list confirm what I said was accurate?Quote:
Originally Posted by thirdmanj
The last part is more tongue in cheek as it was pointed out that I only did 5 of the 10 required things, I simply listed off a few of the things listed that were on my checklist of things for the car that were said "had" to be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by sean
I have no problem listing my two walkarounds, the original, priced at the tune of 26k, the second at 11k. The difference in the two was a simple question, What NEEDS to be done to make the car driveable and roadworthy again, 15k was taken off of the list.
I have not made this anywhere as near as public as I could have, I am simply giving my experience with the stage II upgrade. There have been a few people who have PM'd and emailed me about my situation and I have filled them in with a bunch of information and I am more then happy to share it with anyone else that asks privately.I've always said the Stage II was a great upgrade and I love it, the service on the other hand was less desirable but not horrible.
As far as the bashing, that's silly. I like thirdmanjs take on it, Ed gets bashed it's a good time for all, say something negative about someone else, it's hate mongering. I always thought this was an open forum to discuss, ask questions and vent concerns amongst our small group of owners. Apparently this is not so, so please Sean, Mike or anyone else that's a mod feel free to delete any of my bashing comments.
I find it great that Tony is offering to honor the work, I don't have 2k at the moment(1k shipping down, 1K shipping back) to take him up on it, not to mention this was three years ago.
First, feel free to share this situation in the review area. Second, where did I say bash?Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Mcfly4u
Gasohol gdiscussion can be continued here:
http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?15...hol-on-our-D-s
Whoops - it wasn't quite accurate (my bad). Stage 2 also includes (in addition to what was mentioned) plugs/wires/cap/rotor. Effective last last year it also includes powdercoating the engine parts that get removed during the installation (intake, W-pipe, valve covers, timing cover).Quote:
Originally Posted by sean
Darn it, looks like I missed out on a few of these. That's what you get for needing one earlier. Only my valve covers are powdercoated and it looks like an older job. Granted, I've put 20,000 miles on the engine since.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMCMW Dave
DMC likes to improve their improvements. Unfortunately, that sometimes hurts us early adopters. (My car, for example, had Stage I put on in 2004 (I think -- would have to go back and find the receipt) when it was only exhaust, and it is not stainless steel.) However, it's a boon to those who wait for a little while to upgrade their cars.
Farrar
Good thing you waited to convert to carburetion until after the bugs were worked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Farrar
Bill Robertson
#5939
I might be wrong, but I believe that the price of the Stage 1 exhaust has increased as it has evolved, as well. No doubt related to an increased materials cost.Quote:
...Unfortunately, that sometimes hurts us early adopters. (My car, for example, had Stage I put on in 2004 (I think -- would have to go back and find the receipt) when it was only exhaust, and it is not stainless steel.) However, it's a boon to those who wait for a little while to upgrade their cars.
Travis