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Thread: Actron Dwell Meter and Idle Hunting

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    Doc, I don't know where the "15°" is coming from unless it is because a lot of people like to run it rich, but the manual says "35-45° (reading pulsates)" swinging, so it should swing across 40°, which is 20° on eight cylinder scale.
    The specs also calls for the engine to be fully warm, pipes hot, etc., not right after coming out of "closed loop", as in the video. (After a drive, to also clean the plugs etc, is good.)
    The RPM is supposed to be temporarily set to 950 during the procedure.
    And, being picky, the meter's ground should be connected to the ground reference connection at the right rear air horn (Blue).
    I agree with Acmetowers, as the manual says that all base settings should be checked before setting the CO. (See D:04:01-05)

    Since your reading looks close cold ("50-60, steady") and showing ~4° when warm (low/lean), it may be so far off that you haven't been turning it enough to matter, as Bitsy mentioned (common mistake). So, you might try the following (before/while you wait on your goodies):
    First, keep track of where the screw is now ( just in case ;-).
    Remember turning CW=Right=Richer and turning CCW=Left=Lean. (Needle works opposite!)
    Turn the screw sloooowly to the right in increments to get it down to swinging across 20°.
    Once you get it close, a little goes a long ways (very touchy to get exact).
    Don't forget to plug the hole and wait a few seconds before taking a reading.

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    I think they say 950 RPM to reduce the hunting a little which some of that hunting is caused by the O2 sensor running to cold. But the RPM does not really affect the dwell readings.
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    +1 ...I would think the 02 sensor temp being up to its temp may be more important than the hunting (signal).

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    Love this thread. I’ve been trying to learn more about our lovely fuel system lately and this popped up! Thanks for all your insight!

    What should the frequency valve be doing in a car which has eliminated the o2 sensor but is otherwise fairly stock (aside from an old custom exhaust)?

    Is the fuel mixture adjustment procedure the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deloreandmcxii View Post
    Love this thread. I’ve been trying to learn more about our lovely fuel system lately and this popped up! Thanks for all your insight!

    What should the frequency valve be doing in a car which has eliminated the o2 sensor but is otherwise fairly stock (aside from an old custom exhaust)?

    Is the fuel mixture adjustment procedure the same?
    Disconnecting the O2 sensor wire would result in the FV running at 50% duty cycle (45 deg. dwell). Yes you still adjust the mixture with the adjustment "screw" but you would need a wideband tail pipe meter to set the mixture to a known value. I would guess you do the same if you unplug the FV or not power the lambda system.
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    why don't you buy a simple 20-30$ oszilloscope instead of that dwell sh.. ?

    we're in 2021 not 19821 anymore



    we have smartphones now and don't use phone booths anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis View Post
    why don't you buy a simple 20-30$ oszilloscope instead of that dwell sh.. ?

    we're in 2021 not 19821 anymore



    we have smartphones now and don't use phone booths anymore...
    Because then Michael would be posting pics of you taking a leak while splitting hairs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis View Post
    why don't you buy a simple 20-30$ oszilloscope instead of that dwell sh.. ?

    we're in 2021 not 19821 anymore



    we have smartphones now and don't use phone booths anymore...
    Those face book adds for a 100 Mhz Oscope must be a joke. My 200 Mhz scope was $400.
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    I have an ancient history, pen sized Oszifox scope from 1998 and its good enough to set CO.

    Lots of hobby scopes for cheap, for example
    https://www.amazon.com/Quimat-Pocket...dp/B0728GCBLD/

    $33 delivered and displays duty cycle for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FABombjoy View Post
    I have an ancient history, pen sized Oszifox scope from 1998 and its good enough to set CO.

    Lots of hobby scopes for cheap, for example
    https://www.amazon.com/Quimat-Pocket...dp/B0728GCBLD/

    $33 delivered and displays duty cycle for you.
    Cool. That should work for dwell checking. 200 Khz bandwidth is good enough for that.
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